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Somebody had to do it. While otherwise a decent baseball talent evaluation nerd, Atkins' beta male-ness has cost this team dearly in multiple ways. I'll start with a few examples:

 

Lets Vlad Jr. gain 50 pounds

Gets cucked out by Stroman in public and in the dressing room, rushes to trade him, does not get max return.

Gets cucked out by Boras, lets Sanchez stink it up in the rotation, trades him at a low point in his career.

Lets Montoyo make stupid decisions like overworking Giles, he gets injured and can't be traded.

Josh Donaldson. Just....the whole thing.

 

Under Gibbons and fat AA, none of this s*** would fly. Ted Lilly gets a black eye.

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I mean he runs your favourite sports team and is clearly all up in your head. Both of those things are pretty Alpha.
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I mean he runs your favourite sports team and is clearly all up in your head. Both of those things are pretty Alpha.

 

Roasted.

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Somebody had to do it. While otherwise a decent baseball talent evaluation nerd, Atkins' beta male-ness has cost this team dearly in multiple ways. I'll start with a few examples:

 

Lets Vlad Jr. gain 50 pounds

Gets cucked out by Stroman in public and in the dressing room, rushes to trade him, does not get max return.

Gets cucked out by Boras, lets Sanchez stink it up in the rotation, trades him at a low point in his career.

Lets Montoyo make stupid decisions like overworking Giles, he gets injured and can't be traded.

Josh Donaldson. Just....the whole thing.

 

Under Gibbons and fat AA, none of this s*** would fly. Ted Lilly gets a black eye.

 

Sanchez's entire career outside of 2016 has been a low point

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This thread is stupid and bad. Why would you waste time starting this thread?

 

a. That's been my entire posting career on here.

b. And someone had to do it.

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We need an alpha male GM like Kevin Barker.

 

Gillick is the man. Set the team up for more than a decade of success, left before the s*** hit the fan. Same with AA to a much lesser extent.

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Not to defend Atkins, but to make a hockey example... Brian Burke and Don Cherry are both alphas, and they're both idiots.

 

So by that logic all alpha's are idiots?

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So by that logic all alpha's are idiots?

 

You're not very bright are you.

 

The point is, alpha or beta is irrelevant. Stupidity knows no bounds.

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I didn’t know people that are not 14 and outside of the World Of Warcraft community called people beta males on the internet. A bit of sad development.
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We need an alpha male GM like Kevin Barker.

 

Barker, Zaun, Don Cherry, Trump, Mel Gibson, Quentin Taratino, Bill O'Reilly, John McAfee, John Gibbons of course and probably a few other I am forgetting

 

Those are the top tier of alpha males, any of them would do a great job at GM, some would have a learning curve if they aren't in the industry right now, but all great leaders and great negotiators, and a little scary, those are the qualities you need. Like I said some would have a learning curve but someone like Atkins could be the assistant, and just provide the info while the alpha does the negotiating.

 

I guess thinking about it why isn't Shapiro doing the negotiating?? Assuming he has alpha qualities.

 

Alphas know the game, and want to work 2-5 hours a week if possible. So yeah, Shapiro doesn't want to be "GM".

 

But why can't he just parachute in for negatiating when needed?? While Atkins does all the paper work??

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Barker, Zaun, Don Cherry, Trump, Mel Gibson, Quentin Taratino, Bill O'Reilly, John McAfee, John Gibbons of course and probably a few other I am forgetting

 

Those are the top tier of alpha males, any of them would do a great job at GM, some would have a learning curve if they aren't in the industry right now, but all great leaders and great negotiators, and a little scary, those are the qualities you need. Like I said some would have a learning curve but someone like Atkins could be the assistant, and just provide the info while the alpha does the negotiating.

 

I guess thinking about it why isn't Shapiro doing the negotiating?? Assuming he has alpha qualities.

 

Alphas know the game, and want to work 2-5 hours a week if possible. So yeah, Shapiro doesn't want to be "GM".

 

But why can't he just parachute in for negatiating when needed?? While Atkins does all the paper work??

 

None of those people would be good baseball GMs. Every single one of them would be worse than Dave Stewart.

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Barker, Zaun, Don Cherry, Trump, Mel Gibson, Quentin Taratino, Bill O'Reilly, John McAfee, John Gibbons of course and probably a few other I am forgetting

 

Those are the top tier of alpha males, any of them would do a great job at GM, some would have a learning curve if they aren't in the industry right now, but all great leaders and great negotiators, and a little scary, those are the qualities you need. Like I said some would have a learning curve but someone like Atkins could be the assistant, and just provide the info while the alpha does the negotiating.

 

I guess thinking about it why isn't Shapiro doing the negotiating?? Assuming he has alpha qualities.

 

Alphas know the game, and want to work 2-5 hours a week if possible. So yeah, Shapiro doesn't want to be "GM".

 

But why can't he just parachute in for negatiating when needed?? While Atkins does all the paper work??

 

Nice, John McAfee referenced

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None of those people would be good baseball GMs. Every single one of them would be worse than Dave Stewart.

 

They would be very good Alphas. They are all alphas. They just need a beta to do the number crunching, and the paperwork, and stuff.

 

Dave Stewart is not a great GM because I think he got involved with transvestite prostitutes and that probably sucked some of his alphas.

 

The thing is you need an Alpha and beta team.

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If Atkins works hard, he's a perfectly fine "GM", just needs an alpha (Trump, Cherry, Steve Balmer, etc.) to do the talking.

 

I thought that was the entire deal with the modern "President", "GM" setup???? Like isn't Shapiro now an alpha, who earns several million dollars for working Occasionally, like very occasionally, but when the s*** hits the fan, he performs some magic with 30 minutes work?? While Atkins works 90 hours a week but mostly at clerical stuff...

 

PLEASE WATCH THIS - 9 minutes long, but you see what I mean... eventually the alpha talks, but only briefly

 

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They would be very good Alphas. They are all alphas. They just need a beta to do the number crunching, and the paperwork, and stuff.

 

Dave Stewart is not a great GM because I think he got involved with transvestite prostitutes and that probably sucked some of his alphas.

 

The thing is you need an Alpha and beta team.

,

If Atkins works hard, he's a perfectly fine "GM", just needs an alpha (Trump, Cherry, Steve Balmer, etc.) to do the talking.

 

I thought that was the entire deal with the modern "President", "GM" setup???? Like isn't Shapiro now an alpha, who earns several million dollars for working Occasionally, like very occasionally, but when the s*** hits the fan, he performs some magic with 30 minutes work?? While Atkins works 90 hours a week but mostly at clerical stuff...

 

PLEASE WATCH THIS - 9 minutes long, but you see what I mean... eventually the alpha talks, but only briefly

 

 

Shapiro - "Please, speak as you might to a young child, or a golden retriever"

 

Atkins - Well sir, we've crunched the numbers and SWR is off the charts, think Noah Syndergard but no one knows it yet... we need to get this guy at all costs.

 

Shapiro - "OK. OK. What else"

 

Atkins - I really want this guy, but it's a bit risky so we should get at least 2 or 3 other pieces to mitigate the risk. And we should let a few other teams counter offer just to see... but MAN I want this guy!!!!, Lets get this guy!!!!"

 

Shapiro - "Let me make the call"

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