TheOutsider

A lot of credit has to go to the Orioles, Royals and Marlins too...LOL.

Don't screw this up Jays! Passing on Martin would be...ugh

Yeah Martin falling to us would be too good to be true. Do we like Lacy?

I'm struggling to think of elite potential HS OFers picked this high that fulfilled on their promise, but that's likely more to do with the small sample to choose from and a failure of memory. It shouldn't really deter them too much, but HS hitters still have huge a lot of bust potential compared to college players, even if they're a safer investment than HS pitching.

Is Zac Veen a better prospect than Bubba Starling?

Exactly. AA has shown that you can always flip some extra pitchers you collected for an aging knuckleballer (ok maybe not the best example).

Putting Meyer on the big league team would be very different from the cautious development paths they've had for other prospects. I'd be very surprised.

I don't know, the Pirates may never win again, so the Jays might need to go 2-4 or worse, and they're facing the Orioles...

Damn Todd, I have no clue who you could be talking about.

These days, I like to look at xWOBA against for pitchers, to see if they've been lucky and/or helped/hurt by a great defense behind them. MLB average for pitchers is .318 Available - xWOBA 2019 (2018) ---National League--- Hamels - .333 (.339) Hill - .271* (.307) Wheeler - .303 (.278) Wood - .370* (.293) Roark - .336 (.318) Keuchel - .325 (.295) ---American League--- Odorizzi - .299 (.338) Miley - .297 (.307*) Gibson - .330 (.316) Porcello - .337 (.311) Bailey - .320 (.366) --Trash Heap--- Smyly - .368 (n/a) ---Blue Jays--- Thornton - .332 (n/a) Shoemaker - .334* (2017: .352) Waguespack - .351 (n/a) * = small sample, don't trust these numbers It won't take much for the available pitchers to be an upgrade to what we've got (am hoping for good seasons from Thornton, Kay and Shoemaker, and I'm assuming Zeuch and Wag suck). I think the smart money would be on betting on Odorizzi (rise in FB velo) and/or Miley (now throws mostly cutters) as they'll be relatively cheap. I'd like the Jays to spend on Wheeler, but have no faith they'll take the risk. Let alone going after Ryu, or even Cole.

Guys with his strikeout numbers rarely hit the ball often enough at higher levels to make a difference.

Putting Austin Martin at 12 seems kinda crazy? Hitting .432/.514/.641 in the SEC should get you into the top 5, most likely? Obviously we don't know if he'll have a down season next year, but at this point in time I have a hard time believing that there are seven high schoolers that are better picks than Martin.

Orelvis homered in both games of a doubleheader in the GCL, and Hiraldo homered for Bluefield. They are both very young, and very far away, but it's still great to have guys like these performing well.

Oh my god Alford is finally going to claim the top spot. :o

Vlad and Biggio 1B/DH lol.