MLB 2020 Draft

[Boxcar]

Ugh, mock draft season without real baseball to distract me from the millions of dumb mock drafts.

[Spanky99]

Ugh, mock draft season without real baseball to distract me from the millions of dumb mock drafts.

 

Killjoy! Nobody's asking if we care, bro?? lol

[Spanky99]

My gut is telling me Hancock is going to be a Bluejay, I'd put money on it.

 

What we betting?

[jaysguy44]

What we betting?

 

What are my odds?

[Spanky99]

What are my odds?

 

2.5 to 1 on 25 bucks?

[jays4life19]

2.5 to 1 on 25 bucks?

 

I'll take that. Post in the betting thread and i will confirm if you still want to do it.

[jaysguy44]

2.5 to 1 on 25 bucks?

 

I'll do that Spank, sorry for the late reply

[Boxcar]

Boy, I hope "player x" has a single bad game that causes him to slide to the Jays.

 

Does no one else find it hilarious that these rankings are adjusted on a game by game basis?

[Spanky99]

I'll do that Spank, sorry for the late reply

 

What'd my drunk ass get me into, lol. I'll post it in the OT betting thread.

 

JFL, I'll take just the one bet, lol. Sorry.

[metafour]

Ewwwww.

 

[glory]

Yeah that’s pretty s***** for baseball and for amateur talent.

[Krylian]

Is the plan for this to be a one off this year or is MLB looking to f*** the draft up this drastically permanently?

[Grant77]

I fully expect that the best remaining players after the draft will flock to a limited number of teams. The Jays are probably hurt by this more than any team in the league. Americans won't readily sign in a different country.

[bendera3]

I fully expect that the best remaining players after the draft will flock to a limited number of teams. The Jays are probably hurt by this more than any team in the league. Americans won't readily sign in a different country.

 

Maybe. I feel like it just makes more players willing to accept college scholarships as their dollar value will easily exceed the $20k. Has it come out if teams can put in scholarship money clauses in these bonuses/contracts like they have been able to in the past?

[jays4life19]

I fully expect that the best remaining players after the draft will flock to a limited number of teams. The Jays are probably hurt by this more than any team in the league. Americans won't readily sign in a different country.

 

Don't the Jays pay their MILB guys more than most MLB teams? If that's the case the Jays would have a huge advantage. With Vancouver likely gone their going to be in the USA regardless for years.

[Abomination]

Don't the Jays pay their MILB guys more than most MLB teams? If that's the case the Jays would have a huge advantage. With Vancouver likely gone their going to be in the USA regardless for years.

 

I believe so. Very smart move too.

[metafour]

Is the plan for this to be a one off this year or is MLB looking to f*** the draft up this drastically permanently?

 

The draft is 20 rounds next year; but Callis just said he's speculating it to be less (based off no inside info).

[Slade]

Meh not that big of a deal, we'll still get some influx of high level talent with this and the July 2. No draft would of been much worse.

[Jimcanuck]

Meh not that big of a deal, we'll still get some influx of high level talent with this and the July 2. No draft would of been much worse.

 

IFA should be part of the draft anyway. College, prep, and IFA over a certain age. Get rid of the corrupt practices that currently exist with IFA.

[Spanky99]

Ewwwww.

 

 

Yeah, thought they were at least going 10 rounds. A lot of these guys near the back of the draft will be going to school.

[Maahfaace]

This just assures that most undrafted signees will be of the low intellect variety.

[Boxcar]

Good on MLB for pushing players to different sports. God knows the NFL and NBA need more kids wanting to play there.

[glory]

The younger generation today is all about fame and instant gratification. In the NBA and NFL, you are more famous, get paid more upfront, and don't have to grind for a decade before you even get a chance to be paid market value. MLB is building a system where they are making baseball less and less desirable for athletes to even pursue, much less want to play. MLB has become mainstream irrelevant aside from controversies (Astros scandal), and now Manfred is going to ensure that less athletes play the sport seriously beyond middle school. Then there are a whole bunch of other issues with kids playing the sport such as the price of equipment, lack of fields, the amount of people you would need to actually play a baseball game for fun, etc, etc. This is just going to add more reasons for athletes to choose something else. Manfred seriously needs to go, but unfortunately I think he'll stay long enough to f*** the system up beyond repair.

 

I mean I do some logic in trying to scale down the # of minor league affiliates (there are way too many), and maybe less org guys in the minors will improve MiLB quality of play, but it comes with a lot of risk for the game itself.

[metafour]

The "losing athletes to NBA and NFL" angle is overstated. All three sports require vastly different athletic skill-sets and physical attributes to make it at the pro level, and while there is SOME overlap of legitimate crossover athletes having to "choose" which sport they go to, this is hardly some new phenomenon - as the sports have "lost" talent amongst themselves since forever, and it isn't relegated to just baseball losing talent (Joe Mauer was supposedly not only the #1 QB recruit in the country, but arguably the top football recruit period in his Senior class). The vast majority of athletes within these sports cannot transfer their physical skills and achieve success at the top level of another sport - just think about the majority of basketball players who are simply too tall to do anything in baseball; or the 330+ pound guys in football who's entire skillset revolves around pushing another human being around, a talent which has zero transfer over to baseball. Now, there IS a specialized pool of athletes who have the physical tools to "make it" among the different sports, but even then the determining factor in baseball has NEVER been sheer athleticism, and the amount of guys who can actually hit the baseball or pitch the ball for strikes is extremely small. The reality is that baseball doesn't have a shortage of high-level athletes - every team has a dozen guys in the minor leagues who can run and jump at an elite level...and can't hit the ball. Absolutely, if you increase the size of that talent pool there will be more guys who make it, but the fact is that these sports are all so vastly different that there is no legitimate fear of losing THAT much "talent". The game might die due to fan interest declining; but that has more to do with problems within baseball itself - not because there is talent leaving baseball to other sports. There isn't a shortage of talent in baseball at all.

[Slade]

Guys are acting like the MLB wants a 5 round draft. Sad fact is no industry is safe from this pandemic, everyone is trying to save money.

[Grant77]

Guys are acting like the MLB wants a 5 round draft. Sad fact is no industry is safe from this pandemic, everyone is trying to save money.

 

I'd prefer a 20 round draft with rounds 6 to 20 assigned the same 20k cap. The 5 round draft heavily favours teams with a bigger fanbase and destroys what the draft is meant to do, help bad teams get better.

[Krylian]

Guys are acting like the MLB wants a 5 round draft. Sad fact is no industry is safe from this pandemic, everyone is trying to save money.

 

No, but the plan is to eliminate minor league franchises so that will obviously impact the draft. Don't know by how much though.

[Beans]

Boy, I hope "player x" has a single bad game that causes him to slide to the Jays.

 

Does no one else find it hilarious that these rankings are adjusted on a game by game basis?

 

Especially with the trackman data MLB teams are buying from college programs, it’s hilarious they expect us to believe one game will have any impact on where teams draft these kids.

[glory]

Yeah, MLB's dying popularity will hurt more than any draft changes they make, but making the barriers to entry even more difficult combined with everything else is going to be a tough sell for any athlete who has options aside from baseball. This is 2020. Baseball isn't what it used to be in terms of American popularity. The NFL has long since past it, and the NBA will probably pass everyone in 10-15 years. Making the minor leagues more exclusive might/should improve the quality of minor league ball, so that might be one benefit to this.

 

MLB will have to find a way to 1) give amateur talent more money up front, 2) ensure less time spent in the minors, and 3) provide way more money to players in years 0-6 of service. If not, we might see more Carter Stewart career paths, which may not necessarily be a bad thing if it means the players actually get paid well.

[Beans]

The "losing athletes to NBA and NFL" angle is overstated. All three sports require vastly different athletic skill-sets and physical attributes to make it at the pro level, and while there is SOME overlap of legitimate crossover athletes having to "choose" which sport they go to, this is hardly some new phenomenon - as the sports have "lost" talent amongst themselves since forever, and it isn't relegated to just baseball losing talent (Joe Mauer was supposedly not only the #1 QB recruit in the country, but arguably the top football recruit period in his Senior class). The vast majority of athletes within these sports cannot transfer their physical skills and achieve success at the top level of another sport - just think about the majority of basketball players who are simply too tall to do anything in baseball; or the 330+ pound guys in football who's entire skillset revolves around pushing another human being around, a talent which has zero transfer over to baseball. Now, there IS a specialized pool of athletes who have the physical tools to "make it" among the different sports, but even then the determining factor in baseball has NEVER been sheer athleticism, and the amount of guys who can actually hit the baseball or pitch the ball for strikes is extremely small. The reality is that baseball doesn't have a shortage of high-level athletes - every team has a dozen guys in the minor leagues who can run and jump at an elite level...and can't hit the ball. Absolutely, if you increase the size of that talent pool there will be more guys who make it, but the fact is that these sports are all so vastly different that there is no legitimate fear of losing THAT much "talent". The game might die due to fan interest declining; but that has more to do with problems within baseball itself - not because there is talent leaving baseball to other sports. There isn't a shortage of talent in baseball at all.

 

This is exactly right!

 

And, even after almost ten years of posting with you (on another site), I wish you'd post more often.