Radio Scouts Top 50 Prospects List

[P2F]

We worked pretty hard at this and hope you enjoy it.

 

https://www.radioscouts.com/blog/organizational-review-top-50-blue-jays-prospects

[Daniel Labude]

We worked pretty hard at this and hope you enjoy it.

 

https://www.radioscouts.com/blog/organizational-review-top-50-blue-jays-prospects

 

Awesome!!!!!!

[Daniel Labude]

Here is my Top 30

 

1. Vladito

2. Bichette

3. Pearson

4. Jansen

5. Smith

6. Pardinho

7. Biggio

8. SRF

9. Groshans

10. Orelvis

11. Noda

12. Young

13. Alford

14. Spanberger

15. Merryweather

16. Perez

17. Paulino

18. Hiraldo

19. Kloffenstein

20. Luciano

21. Espinal

22. Lopez

23. Thornton

24. Winckowski

25. McKinney

26. Kirk

27. Taylor

28. Zeuch

29. Conine

30. Mc

[Daniel Labude]

I really liked how you all did the percentiles

[Laika]

I really liked how you all did the percentiles

 

It is clearly a better way of illustrating upside and risk than just writing "55 FV - high risk" beside everybody.

[Terminator]

This is really really good. The percentiles are good but I love the write ups too. This article is something worthy to be published on Fangraphs or ESPN or something.

[KevinGregg]

I loved this list. How relevant videos were posted throughout. Blurbs written only for interesting players. Percentile outcomes are obviously way better than future value ratings.

Well done guys!!!

I will listen to the podcast later today

[Terminator]

I really liked the Martinez/Hiraldo debate. You guys obviously put a lot of time into thinking about that.

 

But we actually have some pro ball data for Hiraldo and he did pretty well in Rookie ball last year as a 17 year old. We don't have any data for Martinez yet. How much credit should Hidalgo get for putting up a solid year like that? Seems like you didn't give him much since he's ranked so much lower than Martinez.

[P2F]

I really liked the Martinez/Hiraldo debate. You guys obviously put a lot of time into thinking about that.

 

But we actually have some pro ball data for Hiraldo and he did pretty well in Rookie ball last year as a 17 year old. We don't have any data for Martinez yet. How much credit should Hidalgo get for putting up a solid year like that? Seems like you didn't give him much since he's ranked so much lower than Martinez.

 

Nick would probably answer this more concisely than I, and he may do so, but I'll go ahead and explain my feelings on this.

 

You make a fair point, although I feel like, collectively, we still like Hiraldo a great deal. He's #22 in a very deep system and he's only 18. We would certainly move him up if his performance continues to dictate such a move. We devalued him a little bit for the slide over to 3B on the defensive spectrum, but we still like the bat's potential quite a bit. The biggest knock against him currently is that he's so far away and has had barely any action outside of the DSL. We won't downgrade him for that horrendous small sample in the GCL, but I want to see him have a good year in 2019 before shoving him up the list.

 

It's more that we're high on Orelvis as opposed to down on Hiraldo.

[Daniel Labude]

It is clearly a better way of illustrating upside and risk than just writing "55 FV - high risk" beside everybody.

 

Did you all think about including both?

[P2F]

Did you all think about including both?

 

There was some brief discussion about including FV, but we quickly and unanimously agreed that future value just doesn't capture the likely range of outcomes that we wanted to present for each player.

 

If there was enough interest in that, it's something that we could possibly include in the future, but we really like the percentile outcomes system that we used instead. Plus, I don't know of anyone else using the outcomes the way that we did, which makes it sort of unique. I also could be wrong about that, though.

[tercet]

U guys r teh funny!

 

Bash me for saying biggio/bichette/pearson is overrated then state the exact same reason(s) why I say they are overrated in this list.

 

But the top 10 reports seem accurate/legit beside Pearson and Pardinho.

 

Pearson 50% - Random AAA pitcher. He has shown extreme control problems in the AFL, 1.2 IP above SS ball and we have no clue if this is legit or not, but you guys are stuck with OMFGWTFBBQ 100MPH. No reason to have him higher/lower then Patrick Murphy now.

 

Pardinho 50% - Random AAA pitcher, He is 5'7' 5'8'', maybe he grew since I saw him in Dunedin last spring, but the history of short pitchers is no bueno.

[P2F]

I can't parse whether you're complimenting us or not.

 

Either way, thanks for reading the article, tercet!

[tercet]

You guys secretely love me, but gotta troll all my posts 24/7 to be cool, njh is funny he hasn't changed in 10 years, but atleast bts and dinger changed a bit in the last 10 years.

[Laika]

I really liked the Martinez/Hiraldo debate. You guys obviously put a lot of time into thinking about that.

 

But we actually have some pro ball data for Hiraldo and he did pretty well in Rookie ball last year as a 17 year old. We don't have any data for Martinez yet. How much credit should Hidalgo get for putting up a solid year like that? Seems like you didn't give him much since he's ranked so much lower than Martinez.

 

What p2f said but also:

- The bonuses paid to both weighed heavy on us. I view that as a proxy measurement for what Toronto thinks of the total tool packages.

- Hiraldo doesn't smell or look like a SS to me so that was a substantial negative factor (relative to Orelvis).

[Boxcar]

You guys secretely love me, but gotta troll all my posts 24/7 to be cool, njh is funny he hasn't changed in 10 years, but atleast bts and dinger changed a bit in the last 10 years.

 

I think you have misread the situation

[Terminator]

What p2f said but also:

- The bonuses paid to both weighed heavy on us. I view that as a proxy measurement for what Toronto thinks of the total tool packages.

- Hiraldo doesn't smell or look like a SS to me so that was a substantial negative factor (relative to Orelvis).

 

You guys make good points. I guess a hole in my theory is that Hiraldo performed well in the Dominic Summer League as a 17 year old. Still impressive but he's only a year younger than average for that league. The Gulf Coast League is where he would need to make noise in order for it to truly be impressive.

 

Fangraphs doesn't properly delineate the two leagues on the profile page, they simply refer to both as ® so you have to click on each ® to gain an understanding on which is which.

[P2F]

If anyone here posts on Reddit and would please post the link to the article there, that would be super duper. You will get a thank and much appreciation from yours truly.

[Laika]

If anyone here posts on Reddit and would please post the link to the article there, that would be super duper. You will get a thank and much appreciation from yours truly.

 

Someone can try but the mods there will probably make it invisible immediately just like last time.

[P2F]

Someone can try but the mods there will probably make it invisible immediately just like last time.

 

Maybe so, but I figure it's worth a try.

[Jimcanuck]

Nice job, but that bit about Wall having a low IQ, I recommend revising it

[Laika]

Nice job, but that bit about Wall having a low IQ, I recommend revising it

 

I just really like the swing mechanics.

 

http://freegifmaker.me/video/15493205012887017.gif

[bones10]

U guys r teh funny!

 

Bash me for saying biggio/bichette/pearson is overrated then state the exact same reason(s) why I say they are overrated in this list.

 

But the top 10 reports seem accurate/legit beside Pearson and Pardinho.

 

Pearson 50% - Random AAA pitcher. He has shown extreme control problems in the AFL, 1.2 IP above SS ball and we have no clue if this is legit or not, but you guys are stuck with OMFGWTFBBQ 100MPH. No reason to have him higher/lower then Patrick Murphy now.

 

Pardinho 50% - Random AAA pitcher, He is 5'7' 5'8'', maybe he grew since I saw him in Dunedin last spring, but the history of short pitchers is no bueno.

 

Why are you using musings from the 2006 internet.

[Terminator]

Lol you guys broke the 4th wall on the Reese McGuire write up. Seems like you know he should be higher but just didn't bother with him because he's so unexciting. If you had to objectively rank him somewhere, how high would you put him?

[Laika]

Lol you guys broke the 4th wall on the Reese McGuire write up. Seems like you know he should be higher but just didn't bother with him because he's so unexciting. If you had to objectively rank him somewhere, how high would you put him?

 

Probably around 30. I think I'd have to put him above Riley Adams and he would be similar to Sopko.

 

These things are impossible to perfect. You do 10 revisions and then when you look at the final product you realize guys are out of order. It just is what it is.

 

I also think, upon reflection, Palacios could probably rise by ten spots or so and Wall by 5-10 spots.

[Terminator]

Probably around 30. I think I'd have to put him above Riley Adams and he would be similar to Sopko.

 

These things are impossible to perfect. You do 10 revisions and then when you look at the final product you realize guys are out of order. It just is what it is.

 

I also think, upon reflection, Palacios could probably rise by ten spots or so and Wall by 5-10 spots.

 

Wasn't a criticism I'm just working my way through it all and am commenting on things that stand out. I thought it was pretty fitting for him. Seems like McGuire could be one of those Cs that's a black hole in the lineup but he finds himself playing in the big leagues for a decade anyway. Batting left handed and playing mostly against Righties could help keep his wRC+ floating above 80 as well which is going to help him stick around. Hard to rank someone like that.

[43211234]

Great write-up

[Deadpool]

I released an album in 1997 under the name Mc Something good.

[P2F]

I released an album in 1997 under the name Mc Something good.

 

That's the strangest coincidence.

[Spanky99]

Love it fellas, great job.