General 2019 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[Spanky99]

With another terrific start from Stroman - the deadline approaching which teams do you think would be serious suitors for Marcus. And what should we be looking to acquire. The Jays need starting pitching but some outlets have said pitchers are less sure things so it is better to get positional player talent.

 

I was reading the discussion thread over at MLB traderumours where a poster felt the Jays should land 2 top 100 prospects + 2 lottery ticket pitchers in the low minors. This seems reasonable to me but others say Stroman isn't good enough to land that sort of package.

 

Here is what one poster proposed from the Yankees.

 

Estevan Florial (LH OF) + Jonathan Loaisiga (RHP)+ Trevor Stephan (RHP)+ Roansy Contreras (RHP)

 

Someone noted that Clint Frazier doesn't really fit the Blue Jays as he is a poor outfielder defensively and in a couple of years Tellez/Guerrero will share DH/1B duties. Further Frazier is a sell high candidate perhaps due to a good couple of months.

 

While these Yankee prospects are top 10 in the Yankee system - that doesn't make them "great prospects" in another organization.

 

The Jays really can't afford to miss in a Stroman trade - they need 2 sure fire can't miss regulars in return - is this Yankee package that?

 

Not for Stroman.

[Spanky99]

With another terrific start from Stroman - the deadline approaching which teams do you think would be serious suitors for Marcus. And what should we be looking to acquire. The Jays need starting pitching but some outlets have said pitchers are less sure things so it is better to get positional player talent.

 

I was reading the discussion thread over at MLB traderumours where a poster felt the Jays should land 2 top 100 prospects + 2 lottery ticket pitchers in the low minors. This seems reasonable to me but others say Stroman isn't good enough to land that sort of package.

 

Here is what one poster proposed from the Yankees.

 

Estevan Florial (LH OF) + Jonathan Loaisiga (RHP)+ Trevor Stephan (RHP)+ Roansy Contreras (RHP)

 

Someone noted that Clint Frazier doesn't really fit the Blue Jays as he is a poor outfielder defensively and in a couple of years Tellez/Guerrero will share DH/1B duties. Further Frazier is a sell high candidate perhaps due to a good couple of months.

 

While these Yankee prospects are top 10 in the Yankee system - that doesn't make them "great prospects" in another organization.

 

The Jays really can't afford to miss in a Stroman trade - they need 2 sure fire can't miss regulars in return - is this Yankee package that?

 

Florial, Frazier and Deivi Garcia for Stroman.

[Terminator]

With another terrific start from Stroman - the deadline approaching which teams do you think would be serious suitors for Marcus. And what should we be looking to acquire. The Jays need starting pitching but some outlets have said pitchers are less sure things so it is better to get positional player talent.

 

I was reading the discussion thread over at MLB traderumours where a poster felt the Jays should land 2 top 100 prospects + 2 lottery ticket pitchers in the low minors. This seems reasonable to me but others say Stroman isn't good enough to land that sort of package.

 

Here is what one poster proposed from the Yankees.

 

Estevan Florial (LH OF) + Jonathan Loaisiga (RHP)+ Trevor Stephan (RHP)+ Roansy Contreras (RHP)

 

Someone noted that Clint Frazier doesn't really fit the Blue Jays as he is a poor outfielder defensively and in a couple of years Tellez/Guerrero will share DH/1B duties. Further Frazier is a sell high candidate perhaps due to a good couple of months.

 

While these Yankee prospects are top 10 in the Yankee system - that doesn't make them "great prospects" in another organization.

 

The Jays really can't afford to miss in a Stroman trade - they need 2 sure fire can't miss regulars in return - is this Yankee package that?

 

Tellez is trash

[Bobthe4th]

With another terrific start from Stroman - the deadline approaching which teams do you think would be serious suitors for Marcus. And what should we be looking to acquire. The Jays need starting pitching but some outlets have said pitchers are less sure things so it is better to get positional player talent.

 

With the extra year of control and a relatively cheap salary, pretty much every team that isn’t in an active rebuild should be interested.

 

You’d think that a team that needs starters isn’t likely to give up a starting pitcher who is close to the majors, but we need to get at least one prospect who is nearly ready even if it’s a position player. FWIW I think we should be targeting starters with the Giles trade.

[Boxcar]

 

Lol this tweet is hilarious

 

What did Eck say?

[Terminator]

What did Eck say?

 

Bitching about Stroman's behavior on the mound. Eck was pretty showy himself back in the day too.

[Slade]

Trade with anyone in the NL better prospects and more teams in contention. Even teams like SDP can look at Stroman cause he's not a rental and wants to sign a long term deal.

[Spanky99]

Bitching about Stroman's behavior on the mound. Eck was pretty showy himself back in the day too.

 

Eckersley was brutal, that's exactly why Robbie did what he did!!!

[Bobthe4th]

 

Lol this tweet is hilarious

 

[Spanky99]

I was Edged, lulz

[Spanky99]

God damn, man... the video is silly!'

[Spanky99]

I'm dumn...

 

[Spanky99]

[Barkerfan23]

If Grichuk ends the season with replacement value numbers

 

Will the board seniors still support that extension or will they accept the errors of their ways

[Krylian]

If Grichuk ends the season with replacement value numbers

 

Will the board seniors still support that extension or will they accept the errors of their ways

 

Support.

 

They'll play the 'over the course of the 5 years he will provide value'

[metafour]

If Grichuk ends the season with replacement value numbers

 

Will the board seniors still support that extension or will they accept the errors of their ways

 

So the legitimacy of his entire extension rests on one year's worth of performance, in a complete throwaway season wherein we will likely finish with a Top 5 draft pick (ie: it really makes no difference whether he provides -1 WAR or 5 WAR LOL).

 

That is an interesting jump to conclusions you are making.

 

To answer your question, it would still be a smart extension. His deal is front-loaded which means that he gets cheaper as we get closer to actually being in a position (competing) wherein what he makes has actual implications on the team's position. His salary in 2019 has literally no implication on the team's position as they are already in a reduced-payroll scenario.

[5ToolPhenom]

Bitching about Stroman's behavior on the mound. Eck was pretty showy himself back in the day too.

 

Ehhh, Eck was actually pretty restrained with his criticism of Stro. There's a difference between winning a big game and leaving with a good performance in a meaningless game in the 6th inning

[Todd]

If I'm the blue jays and I'm trading Marcus Stroman to the Yankees

I would want more then just Clint Frazier in return.

[BigCecil]

Another quality outing from Dirty Sanchez. I couldn’t have less faith in a starter. Well maybe Jackson. When Hicks came up did anyone think he wasn’t going to give it up?

[connorp]

If Grichuk ends the season with replacement value numbers

 

Will the board seniors still support that extension or will they accept the errors of their ways

 

Banned for dropping truth bombs?

[Ex Player]

NYDN on Stroman: https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-stroman-blue-jays-trade-20190625-k7zsk5ysurby7ekv4kg3e2hu4q-story.html

[BlueRocky]

Trade with anyone in the NL better prospects and more teams in contention. Even teams like SDP can look at Stroman cause he's not a rental and wants to sign a long term deal.

 

I tend to agree, the NL race is closer. NL central especially

[DigitalRock]

Our pitching depth is pretty bad, Sanchez needs to be moved to the pen. Watch him become a dominant BP arm after he leaves here.

[Jimcanuck]

Jordan Hicks likely won't pitch again until 2021. What a surprise.

 

Dylan Carlson and a pitching lottery fix pls.

[Sorrow]

I really wish they didn't need to use SRF yesterday unless it was his normal 'pen day. Our starting depth is abysmal at the moment.

[Spanky99]

I really wish they didn't need to use SRF yesterday unless it was his normal 'pen day. Our starting depth is abysmal at the moment.

 

Meh, they just had a BP start, that can align easily.

[Spanky99]

Jordan Hicks likely won't pitch again until 2021. What a surprise.

 

Dylan Carlson and a pitching lottery fix pls.

 

Wrong thread, Jim.

[Spanky99]

Not a mention of Giles... WTF???

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/relief-pitchers-market-trade-deadline

[Bobthe4th]

Not a mention of Giles... WTF???

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/relief-pitchers-market-trade-deadline

 

That article isn’t a list of available relievers, it’s saying the demand in general is going to be even higher than normal. Your take away should be that we can hold out for a ransom.

[Spanky99]

That article isn’t a list of available relievers, it’s saying the demand in general is going to be even higher than normal. Your take away should be that we can hold out for a ransom.

 

That article sucks donkey balls, and Morosi should feel bad.