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"Blue Jays GM Ross Atkins says there’s no firm timeline for Vladimir Guerrero Jr., they’re not worried about service time or his arbitration years, and are only focused on his development and what’s best for him and the team."

 

hahahahaha

 

Guerrero has to learn how to be a good teammate, develop leadership skills, and work on his defence.

 

Nothing two weeks in the minors won't fix.

 

I got a good laugh when he said it, but he has to.:D

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The CBA can't be changed soon enough. f***, what dorky answer. First time I'll be 100% on the player's side. But the MLBPA will probably find a way to f*** it up to try to cater to all the 30+ year old players whose big pay day came and went already instead of fixing the misaligned value versus compensation for the young guys coming in.
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Should the Jays use this downturn in the FA market to lock up Vlad long term at a reduced rate?

 

The Jays would, no doubt. Don't think Vladito does, unless it's reasonable. Markets change all the time, he has nothing to worry about save for injury.

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Guerrero has to learn how to be a good teammate, develop leadership skills, and work on his defence.

 

Nothing two weeks in the minors won't fix.

 

I got a good laugh when he said it, but he has to.:D

 

I agree that was gold lol. Especially since I can imagine the Jew or the four-eyes saying it with a straight face.

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When do you guys think Vlad debuts, @ home on the 12th vs the Rays(first eligible) or on the road against the Twinkies on the 15th?

 

I think likely on the road. I think there's gonna be a little headache with the PA regardless but I remember there was a much bigger deal with Kris Bryant when he was brought up the day he was eligible.

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I think likely on the road. I think there's gonna be a little headache with the PA regardless but I remember there was a much bigger deal with Kris Bryant when he was brought up the day he was eligible.

 

Yeah, they'll file a grievance for sure, they always do, Bryant's grievance claim from the PA is still open. I think they've already filed one on Vlad if I'm not mistaken in June of '18. I agree that we'll see him on the 15th in Minnesota, can't wait.

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I wonder if Vlad Guerrero jr will give the standard "I'm in the best shape of my life" answer this spring training.

 

They'll all say that.

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No f***ing kidding, he must've found the clubhouse ice cream machine.

 

You would think the jays would you know want to get him into good shape

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Hah!:cool:

 

 

 

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I'm really glad we have him for his first 6-7 seasons. Not sure how his size is going to age.

 

I'm kinda thinking Prince Fielder. Fortunately, that's a lot of value if you aren't stupid enough to sign him after free agency kicks in.

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I'm kinda thinking Prince Fielder. Fortunately, that's a lot of value if you aren't stupid enough to sign him after free agency kicks in.

 

David Ortiz played until his 40s.

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VGJ will always struggle with his weight. It will be the reason, similar to Pablo Sandoval, that he eventually converts to first base and ultimately a permanent DH. We’ve seen his body type before in Fielder, Ortiz and the likes - a willingness to learn a new position will be the key for any possible longevity.
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I'm sorry, but being that fat as a professional ball player at 19 is unacceptable. He'd clearly be a better player if he dropped 40 pounds. Dude's gonna be a f***ing whale by 30.

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Stroman took shots at the front office in his media scrum today for not signing enough veterans.

 

I took some tequila shots that were taller than Stroman.

King All-Star

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DUNEDIN, Fla. – Marcus Stroman took a flamethrower to the tranquil opening of Toronto Blue Jays training camp, saying his desire to remain with the club is unrequited, pushing for Vladimir Guerrero Jr., to open the season in the majors and saying the veteran presence from recent years is a crucial element that’s been lost.

The lightning-rod right-hander addressed media for 20 minutes Sunday after declining to do so a day earlier following his first side session, even declining a team official’s attempt to cut short the session.

He spoke forcefully about his game, his role on the team and his passion for Toronto, expressing disappointment that he hasn’t been offered a long-term deal. As for his relationship with the front office, he replied simply, “it’s business, man. It is what it is.”

“Mentally, I’m ready to perform, wherever it may be,” he continued. “I want to play here. I’ve been wanting to play here for a long time. I’ve been waiting to sign a long-term deal. I’ve been offered nothing. There’s no one that embodies the city of Toronto more than me. And you’re not going to find guys who want to come in and embody the city of Toronto because it’s just not natural, and I’ve taken a liking to that myself, and that’s been organic and natural, it’s not something I had to do. That’s something I wanted to do. I’ve always wanted to be here.

“I want to pitch in the American League East, I want to pitch against the Yankees, I want to pitch against the Red Sox. People shy away from that, people go and hide in other leagues. I’m here. I don’t care who’s in the box. I’ll face everybody. I couldn’t care less. I think that’s the type of mantra and type of confidence the city of Toronto needs.

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Keegan Matheson

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Stroman just finished a long chat with the media here in Dunedin. Reiterated that he wants to stay with #BlueJays long-term but hasn't been approached by the front office in any way. Adds that he embodies the country of Canada, city of Toronto, etc. In a scrum that could have been titled "Dear front office...", Stroman also spoke about the value of veteran presences in the clubhouse, which the Jays now lack. The short version is that today's strategically-written script will be Chapter 1 in a narrative that stretches to July 31 or beyond. The long version will be at @BaseballTOR later today.

 

Stroman brought up Carlos Gomez again, who he tweeted about yesterday as a veteran presence that could benefit a team, saying that any player or manager in baseball would agree. Gomez's -0.5 WAR and .634 OPS from 2018 appear to be overshadowing that it in eyes of teams right now.

 

In one of the larger statements of the day and/or spring and/or season, Stroman adds: "There’s no one who embodies or loves pitching for the city of Toronto or country of Canada more than me, nor will you ever find them. I can promise you that...”

 

Stroman on his relationship with the #BlueJays front office: "It’s a business. It is what it is. Mentally, I’m ready to perform, wherever it may be..."

John Lott

@LottOnBaseball

In a 21-minute media scrum, Marcus Stroman criticized the #BlueJays front office for not signing more veterans and not offering him a long-term deal. His commitment, he said, is to Toronto and Canada, pointedly omitting a mention of the club he works for.

 

 

Also: He fired up his own fanbase by tweeting this to Roberto Osuna, lol. The replies are not pretty.

 

mmzAUMw.png

 

Good start to 2019 for Stroman.

King All-Star

King

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Gregor Chisholm @gregorMLB

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Stroman: "There is really no veteran presence anymore. It's me and KP, John Axford, a few other guys, Justin Smoak. I can't speak anymore highly that the game needs to get to a point where we're starting to put these veteran players back in the clubhouse." #BlueJays

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DUNEDIN, Fla. – Marcus Stroman took a flamethrower to the tranquil opening of Toronto Blue Jays training camp, saying his desire to remain with the club is unrequited, pushing for Vladimir Guerrero Jr., to open the season in the majors and saying the veteran presence from recent years is a crucial element that’s been lost.

The lightning-rod right-hander addressed media for 20 minutes Sunday after declining to do so a day earlier following his first side session, even declining a team official’s attempt to cut short the session.

He spoke forcefully about his game, his role on the team and his passion for Toronto, expressing disappointment that he hasn’t been offered a long-term deal. As for his relationship with the front office, he replied simply, “it’s business, man. It is what it is.”

“Mentally, I’m ready to perform, wherever it may be,” he continued. “I want to play here. I’ve been wanting to play here for a long time. I’ve been waiting to sign a long-term deal. I’ve been offered nothing. There’s no one that embodies the city of Toronto more than me. And you’re not going to find guys who want to come in and embody the city of Toronto because it’s just not natural, and I’ve taken a liking to that myself, and that’s been organic and natural, it’s not something I had to do. That’s something I wanted to do. I’ve always wanted to be here.

“I want to pitch in the American League East, I want to pitch against the Yankees, I want to pitch against the Red Sox. People shy away from that, people go and hide in other leagues. I’m here. I don’t care who’s in the box. I’ll face everybody. I couldn’t care less. I think that’s the type of mantra and type of confidence the city of Toronto needs.

Select media tweets:

Keegan Matheson

@KeeganMatheson

Stroman just finished a long chat with the media here in Dunedin. Reiterated that he wants to stay with #BlueJays long-term but hasn't been approached by the front office in any way. Adds that he embodies the country of Canada, city of Toronto, etc. In a scrum that could have been titled "Dear front office...", Stroman also spoke about the value of veteran presences in the clubhouse, which the Jays now lack. The short version is that today's strategically-written script will be Chapter 1 in a narrative that stretches to July 31 or beyond. The long version will be at @BaseballTOR later today.

 

Stroman brought up Carlos Gomez again, who he tweeted about yesterday as a veteran presence that could benefit a team, saying that any player or manager in baseball would agree. Gomez's -0.5 WAR and .634 OPS from 2018 appear to be overshadowing that it in eyes of teams right now.

 

In one of the larger statements of the day and/or spring and/or season, Stroman adds: "There’s no one who embodies or loves pitching for the city of Toronto or country of Canada more than me, nor will you ever find them. I can promise you that...”

 

Stroman on his relationship with the #BlueJays front office: "It’s a business. It is what it is. Mentally, I’m ready to perform, wherever it may be..."

John Lott

@LottOnBaseball

In a 21-minute media scrum, Marcus Stroman criticized the #BlueJays front office for not signing more veterans and not offering him a long-term deal. His commitment, he said, is to Toronto and Canada, pointedly omitting a mention of the club he works for.

 

 

Also: He fired up his own fanbase by tweeting this to Roberto Osuna, lol. The replies are not pretty.

 

mmzAUMw.png

 

Good start to 2019 for Stroman.

 

I (for once) have to agree with Stro. With him and Sanchez leading this staff the pitchers certainly don't have anybody to show them the way to be real professionals!

King All-Star

King

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I (for once) have to agree with Stro. With him and Sanchez leading this staff the pitchers certainly don't have anybody to show them the way to be real professionals!

 

Pretty sure they have shitbag Clayton Richard for part of this reason.

 

Shoemaker isnt young, either.

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