John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Gurriel is actually underperforming his xWOBA by about 0.020. His batted ball profile is excellent, tons of line drives and he's rarely popped the ball up in his brief stint. He's killed the ball like 4 times in this game alone. But ya know, never let facts get in the way of a terrible and idiotic nickname right? Good ole terdicktuck
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 But ya know, never let facts get in the way of a terrible and idiotic nickname right? Good ole terdicktuck Such a cringy nickname.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Just horrible f***ing baseball. Andreoli wasn't close on Giles' fastball, but they speed up his bat with a slider. f***ING IDIOTIC
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 So the throw was bad, but Travis totally ate s*** there lmao. If he doesn't slip he can probably make that catch.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Gurribabip bros What's terdicktuck paying you?
Barkerscousin Verified Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Another error resulting in a run, wow,
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Gurribabip bros Ohh mange la f***ing merde, buddy.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Just horrible f***ing baseball. Andreoli wasn't close on Giles' fastball, but they speed up his bat with a slider. f***ING IDIOTIC The problem wasn't with the pitch call but the location. For all you know Andreoli was cheating on the fastball and would have gotten absolutely destroyed on a low slider.
Barkerscousin Verified Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 There has to be less than 3000 people in the stadium right now
tercet Verified Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Remember that time I showed you the math on Gurriel in accordance with his exit velo and babip and he was actually unlucky, while at the same time you were on Travis' nuts during a temporary hot streak and I showed you his babip was incredibly high and unsustainable during his hot streak and then you tucked your dick and ran from the thread? Good times. Just gonna start calling you terdicktuck https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/expected_statistics?type=batter&year=2018&position=&team=TOR&min=100 Didn't dodge s***, your delusional if you think someone is unlucky despite a 450 babip over 75~AB. I also wasn't on Travis nuts, I said it was poor management since the Jays are giving Gurribabip ABs over Travis.
Barkerscousin Verified Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Holy f*** is this the real life, 4 errors. The play before on Martin should have been yet another error. If Atkins hadn't told us about Gibby staying with the team till year end, this would be the kind of series where he would be let go. They are miserable out there.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Martin is having a nightmare of an inning.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 The problem wasn't with the pitch call but the location. For all you know Andreoli was cheating on the fastball and would have gotten absolutely destroyed on a low slider. Why the f*** would you even risk it when he was clearly late and not handling his fastball? Keep it f***ing simple.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Giles needs to never see a non-save situation again lol.
Barkerscousin Verified Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Giles needs to never see a non-save situation again lol. Two simple ground balls botched by Martin, Travis not catching the ball at first It really wasn't his fault.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Why the f*** would you even risk it when he was clearly late and not handling his fastball? Keep it f***ing simple. Because it's not that simple? Andreoli is, by all accounts, an MLB hitter (maybe not for long), if he's seen the same pitch 3 or 4 times in a row now he might be able to get the memo and be ready for it on a 5th time, or maybe he could have been guessing slider all the way and a fastball would have blown him away. With a two-pitch pitcher, whose two pitches are both plus, he was probably sitting on one of them, but throw it down the middle and an MLB hitter is not unlikely to hit it.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Didn't dodge s***, your delusional if you think someone is unlucky despite a 450 babip over 75~AB. I also wasn't on Travis nuts, I said it was poor management since the Jays are giving Gurribabip ABs over Travis. At the All-Star break Lourdes Gurriel had 114 PAs on a .313 BABIP. When Lourdes Gurriel had 78 PAs on the season (~75 ABs since he wasn't walking at all at the time) his BABIP was .259, I don't remember you jumping into threads claiming "LULLL GURRIBABIP" at the time. Gurriel's highest BABIP of the season came the day he injured himself when his season BABIP was .364, a tad high sure but none of this ludicrosy that you're claiming. Stop digging yourself a bigger hole please, it's embarrassing.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Because it's not that simple? Andreoli is, by all accounts, an MLB hitter (maybe not for long), if he's seen the same pitch 3 or 4 times in a row now he might be able to get the memo and be ready for it on a 5th time, or maybe he could have been guessing slider all the way and a fastball would have blown him away. With a two-pitch pitcher, whose two pitches are both plus, he was probably sitting on one of them, but throw it down the middle and an MLB hitter is not unlikely to hit it. Andreoli took a 2-1 fastball on the outer half for a strike. He then reached out and fouled off another fastball on the outer half that he was late on. The next pitch was screaming fastball up and in.
Barkerscousin Verified Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Tabby thinks something is up with the balls.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Tabby thinks something is up with the balls. Yeah, looks like he's right. Possibly explains Giles and the defensive issues last inning too.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Ohh mange la f***ing merde, buddy. sorry, I don't speak italian
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Andreoli took a 2-1 fastball on the outer half for a strike. He then reached out and fouled off another fastball on the outer half that he was late on. The next pitch was screaming fastball up and in. Hey, you know Pete Walker is probably gone after this season? You should apply to replace him! Sounds like you'd be the obvious choice.
tercet Verified Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 At the All-Star break Lourdes Gurriel had 114 PAs on a .313 BABIP. When Lourdes Gurriel had 78 PAs on the season (~75 ABs since he wasn't walking at all at the time) his BABIP was .259, I don't remember you jumping into threads claiming "LULLL GURRIBABIP" at the time. Gurriel's highest BABIP of the season came the day he injured himself when his season BABIP was .364, a tad high sure but none of this ludicrosy that you're claiming. Stop digging yourself a bigger hole please, it's embarrassing. https://www.fangraphs.com/splitstool.aspx?playerid=19238&position=2B/SS&splitArr=&strgroup=season&statgroup=2&startDate=2018-07-02&endDate=2018-07-29&filter=&statType=player&autoPt=true&players=&pg=0&pageItems=30&sort=-1,1 Take away this stretch where he was historically lucky, he is a terrible hitter, on top of being a terrible defender.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 https://www.fangraphs.com/splitstool.aspx?playerid=19238&position=2B/SS&splitArr=&strgroup=season&statgroup=2&startDate=2018-07-02&endDate=2018-07-29&filter=&statType=player&autoPt=true&players=&pg=0&pageItems=30&sort=-1,1 Take away this stretch where he was historically lucky, he is a terrible hitter, on top of being a terrible defender. It's almost like when you murder baseballs, they fall for hits more often. I know this is a hard concept to grasp but try to follow along. If it gets too hard, just wait a few years when you grow up and try again. Click the batted ball tab that you conveniently provided and realize that 88.5% of his batted balls were classified as medium or hard hit, which is ludicrously above league average, which would explain a huge part of the high babip over that stretch. I doubt you will and you'll probably just tuck dick and slink away again. Want to know who is a worse defender? Devon Travis. But keep thinking Travis is somehow more valuable going forward. terdicktuck is pretty predictable.
tercet Verified Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Click the batted ball tab and realize that 88.5% of his batted balls were classified as medium or hard hit, which is ludicrously above league average, which would explain a high babip over that stretch. I doubt you will and you'll probably just tuck dick and slink away again. terdicktuck is pretty predictable. Do you understand how babip and variance works? Look at every BurlingtonBandit post in the teoscar thread. You are just rehasing the same s*** he went on for weeks and weeks then guess what he disappeared. The barrels will regress to the mean, like they did before his stretch and so far in August. I'm here I ain't going nowhere.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 https://www.fangraphs.com/splitstool.aspx?playerid=19238&position=2B/SS&splitArr=&strgroup=season&statgroup=2&startDate=2018-07-02&endDate=2018-07-29&filter=&statType=player&autoPt=true&players=&pg=0&pageItems=30&sort=-1,1 Take away this stretch where he was historically lucky, he is a terrible hitter, on top of being a terrible defender. And if you take away all of Mike Trout's hits he's the worst player in baseball history. What a f***ing absurd argument, for a guy who made such a big fuzz about Teoscar Hernandez's small sample size performance you sure like to use them to try and make a point. Player in a hot streak where he's hitting everything hard has high probability of having balls land for hits, call the presses! Kendrys Morales just had a 7 game home run streak, I bet you must think everyone believes he's having a Bonds-esque resurgence right?
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Do you understand how babip and variance works? Look at every BurlingtonBandit post in the teoscar thread. You are just rehasing the same s*** he went on for weeks and weeks then guess what he disappeared. The barrels will regress to the mean, like they did before his stretch and so far in August. I'm here I ain't going nowhere. Did you actually look up his medium and hart hit balls for August? Because they're at 80%, he's actually getting incredibly unlucky on his balls in play in august. 40% line drive rate. Keep digging terdicktuck
tercet Verified Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 And if you take away all of Mike Trout's hits he's the worst player in baseball history. What a f***ing absurd argument, for a guy who made such a big fuzz about Teoscar Hernandez's small sample size performance you sure like to use them to try and make a point. Player in a hot streak where he's hitting everything hard has high probability of having balls land for hits, call the presses! Kendrys Morales just had a 7 game home run streak, I bet you must think everyone believes he's having a Bonds-esque resurgence right? Well guess what Teoscar regressed to the mean and is terrible? Do you want to go through this same argument again and be wrong again?
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Do you understand how babip and variance works? Look at every BurlingtonBandit post in the teoscar thread. You are just rehasing the same s*** he went on for weeks and weeks then guess what he disappeared. The barrels will regress to the mean, like they did before his stretch and so far in August. I'm here I ain't going nowhere. It seems you're the one that doesn't understand a thing about variance. You're combating small sample size with small sample size. Gurriel's batter ball profile is likely not too different when his BABIP was in the .260s as during his one streak which normalized and swung too much in the opposite direction. It's almost like that's exactly how variance in a small sample looks like.
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