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The Orioles get organizational depth for Gausman. Like, Copping and Waguespack types. I guess Encarnacion is kind of interesting if you squint hard enough. But this trade makes them presently terribad and I don't think it helps them much in the future.

 

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Source: #Braves sending Encarnacion, Cumberland, Phillips and Zimmerman to #Orioles for Gausman and Darren O’Day.

 

Yikes. That's a bad return for 2.5 years of a solid average SP who touches upper 90s.

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Source: #Braves sending Encarnacion, Cumberland, Phillips and Zimmerman to #Orioles for Gausman and Darren O’Day.

 

I'll be pretty happy if I never see O'Day pitch against the Jays again.

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Yikes. That's a bad return for 2.5 years of a solid average SP who touches upper 90s.

They've really stripped it down. That team is going to be bad for a long time.

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They've really stripped it down. That team is going to be bad for a long time.

 

They waited way too long to tear it down. Off the top of my head, the only really interesting piece they received in the tear-down was Yusniel Diaz, and he profiles more as a league-average COF than a star player.

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They waited way too long to tear it down. Off the top of my head, the only really interesting piece they received in the tear-down was Yusniel Diaz, and he profiles more as a league-average COF than a star player.

 

At least they've got all those guys from the international market...

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They waited way too long to tear it down. Off the top of my head, the only really interesting piece they received in the tear-down was Yusniel Diaz, and he profiles more as a league-average COF than a star player.

Heyman says they got 2.5m in bonus money in the Gausman trade, so that could lead to someone interesting. Luis Ortiz was in the Schoop deal and he could be a #3 or #4 starter if things break right (and he doesn't keep getting fat).

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Yikes. That's a bad return for 2.5 years of a solid average SP who touches upper 90s.

 

Looks like the packaged O'Day up as a salary dump, which ruined their return for Gausman.

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Looks like the packaged O'Day up as a salary dump, which ruined their return for Gausman.

 

Yeah, but they did receive some decent International spending money, still blah.

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Pretty good move for Cleveland to pick up Oscar Mercado, was hoping the Jays would try to get him. His bat took off when they moved him from SS to CF.
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Do we understand why Pittsburgh traded away Cole (good SP'er with control in the peak of his career) this offseason, only to then go after Chris Archer (good SP'er with control in the peak of his career) at the deadline?

 

Is it simply because they think they have a shot at the 2nd playoff spot? Or are they just moving assets around?

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Do we understand why Pittsburgh traded away Cole (good SP'er with control in the peak of his career) this offseason, only to then go after Chris Archer (good SP'er with control in the peak of his career) at the deadline?

 

Is it simply because they think they have a shot at the 2nd playoff spot? Or are they just moving assets around?

 

I might be wrong but doesn't Archer have an extra cheap year of control?

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I might be wrong but doesn't Archer have an extra cheap year of control?

 

Oh he might, but I would have thought the Pirates traded Cole because his years of control didn't align with the teams window. Maybe they think they miscalculated the window...might be as simple as that.

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lol this made me laugh.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/august-trade-targets-to-fight-the-post-deadline-blues/

 

TYLER CLIPPARD

 

I personally don’t see the lure of bringing in Tyler Clippard at this point, but teams sometimes make poor decisions. The Jays don’t have much use for him at this point, and if someone wants him and is willing to pick up a token percentage of his salary, Toronto likely knows they don’t have any leverage here.

 

CURTIS GRANDERSON

 

Granderson has shown enough in Toronto that I’m betting he gets moved for a second straight August, hopefully with better results for his new team than last year, when he hit .161/.288/.366 for the Dodgers after a respectable mid-summer for the Mets. There are teams that can still use an extra corner outfield bat, like the Phillies or D-backs. The Rockies could as well, but the team being full of lefty hitters and apparently being unaware of any problem probably kills any chances of that happening.

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