ValiantJaysFan Verified Member Posted March 22, 2018 Author Posted March 22, 2018 Higher response rate to your job application, for one. As a former agency recruiter I can tell you that couldn't be further from the truth. Especially in entry level and middle management jobs (necessary experience for Director and C level Executive positions), it's minority females who get the best response. Companies are eager to show how diverse they are.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 As a former agency recruiter I can tell you that couldn't be further from the truth. Especially in entry level and middle management jobs (necessary experience for Director and C level Executive positions), it's minority females who get the best response. Companies are eager to show how diverse they are. This poor bastard doesn't know how things work around here with Jim, and is about to get a taste of it.
Jays3891 Verified Member Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 I mean, if you are a regular white dude walking around in Toronto, what privilege do you have that others don't? A new law in Ontario came into affect in January 2017 banning random carding of people...as white dude you had the privilege to walk around Toronto without being harrased by a cop, I can do that now too when I come for a couple jay's and raptor games. Anyway the dude who started this thread is a closest racist...just say it man, you hate black people and are pissed that females have the nerve to ask for equal pay
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 As a former agency recruiter I can tell you that couldn't be further from the truth. Especially in entry level and middle management jobs (necessary experience for Director and C level Executive positions), it's minority females who get the best response. Companies are eager to show how diverse they are. Perhaps you are right for some positions. For routine jobs (eg. sales clerk), studies show that whites have a higher response rate.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Do you know how many times I've been harassed by a cop? The anecdote of a single person is meaningless.
ValiantJaysFan Verified Member Posted March 22, 2018 Author Posted March 22, 2018 Perhaps you are right for some positions. For routine jobs (eg. sales clerk), studies show that whites have a higher response rate. That is true, sales positions are an exception. I think that probably has to do with communication skills (native English speakers are better at sales when dealing primarily with English speaking communities obviously). I don't think that has much to do with race other than language skills which no one can really do anything about. Either you speak the language well or you don't.
Jays3891 Verified Member Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 As a former agency recruiter I can tell you that couldn't be further from the truth. Especially in entry level and middle management jobs (necessary experience for Director and C level Executive positions), it's minority females who get the best response. Companies are eager to show how diverse they are. What wrong with having a diverse staff team? I work in place dominated by males and love seeing females hired more often as long they are qualified for the job...I don't think anyone should be given anything but if you have two people that are both qualified for the position and one person adds something different (race,sex,bilingual etc) then you already have they might help make your staff team much better!
ValiantJaysFan Verified Member Posted March 22, 2018 Author Posted March 22, 2018 What wrong with having a diverse staff team? I work in place dominated by males and love seeing females hired more often as long they are qualified for the job...I don't think anyone should be given anything but if you have two people that are both qualified for the position and one person adds something different (race,sex,bilingual etc) then you already have they might help make your staff team much better! Of course I agree with you. The point is white people don't have any advantage when applying for jobs. If anything the opposite is true.
Jays3891 Verified Member Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 As a former agency recruiter I can tell you that couldn't be further from the truth. Especially in entry level and middle management jobs (necessary experience for Director and C level Executive positions), it's minority females who get the best response. Companies are eager to show how diverse they are. Do you know how many times I've been harassed by a cop? I'm sorry if you have, nobody deserves to be harassed
ChrisS Verified Member Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 I don't think anyone here is villifying white people. does systemic racism exist? Of course man...I work in the Justice system and often see people of colour or diffferent ethnicity getting harsher fines/sentences then white people who have committed the same crime. Sometimes that has to do with the white/masculine dude having more income to get a good defensive lawyer So its an income issue, not a race issue.
ChrisS Verified Member Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Do you know how many times I've been harassed by a cop? dude, dont lie. White people never get harassed by the police, only people of colour.
ChrisS Verified Member Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 A new law in Ontario came into affect in January 2017 banning random carding of people...as white dude you had the privilege to walk around Toronto without being harrased by a cop, I can do that now too when I come for a couple jay's and raptor games. Anyway the dude who started this thread is a closest racist...just say it man, you hate black people and are pissed that females have the nerve to ask for equal pay Because he calls out Stroman for being an abnoxious douchebag, that makes him racist? Females dont get paid less, they earn less. We live in a world were companies are making massive cuts to their bottom line and people are getting paid less than they ever have. If females truly got paid less for the same work you can bet every company out there is going to be taking advantage of this arbitrage and will hire exclusively females at which point the demand for females is going to strip the supply, forcing wages up.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Can you dickheads take the obnoxious social justice ******** to the OT section is the Forum? There's plenty of threads there full of virtue signalling and whatever other crap people like to argue about. This section is for arguing about baseball f***
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Agreed. This thread is about Stroman's douchbaggery....... errr, i mean, baseball.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Can you dickheads take the obnoxious social justice ******** to the OT section is the Forum? There's plenty of threads there full of virtue signalling and whatever other crap people like to argue about. This section is for arguing about baseball f*** If that was sarcasm, well done.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Ugh, white privilege is such a myth. Minorities have way more privilege than white people, and especially in America the vast majority of the 1% are Asian. So I guess they should check their Asian privilege. Anything white and masculine these days is considered a bad thing. So sick of it. You're wrong
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Higher response rate to your job application, for one. Got any proof to this allegation? Do you ever get tired of being so full of s***?
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 What wrong with having a diverse staff team? I work in place dominated by males and love seeing females hired more often as long they are qualified for the job...I don't think anyone should be given anything but if you have two people that are both qualified for the position and one person adds something different (race,sex,bilingual etc) then you already have they might help make your staff team much better! Anyone who cares about the races of their co-workers is an idiot. Race has absolutely nothing to do with how skilled you are, and it has nothing to do with your character. No staff ever improved because they had lots of different skin colours and to even suggest that shows a poor understanding of how the world works. PS, calling the OP a racist because you decide to play thought police makes you look like an *******.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Alright mods, time to lock this s*** up.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Yeah. Lesson learned, criticizing Stroman is racist, don't do it.
ValiantJaysFan Verified Member Posted March 23, 2018 Author Posted March 23, 2018 This isn't racist but if I was a cop I would taze Stroman in the nuts
Jays3891 Verified Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 This isn't racist but if I was a cop I would taze Stroman in the nuts Surprised you haven't dropped the N bomb yet, must really hurt you that Stroman is a stud player and is NOT going anywhere ...it's nice to know we have members of the alt right movement as members here.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Surprised you haven't dropped the N bomb yet, must really hurt you that Stroman is a stud player and is NOT going anywhere ...it's nice to know we have members of the alt right movement as members here. Diversity is important to the BJMB.
ChrisS Verified Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Surprised you haven't dropped the N bomb yet, must really hurt you that Stroman is a stud player and is NOT going anywhere ...it's nice to know we have members of the alt right movement as members here. Didn’t you just say it’s a great thing to have diversity? Or was that only when it benefits you? The OP was critical of an individual who just so happens to be a person of colour, so that automatically makes him a racist? Is this the kind of critical thinking and behaviour you live your life by? As far as being uncomfortable and marginalized, I’ve been to Gary, Indiana. Those people are truely the above. I’ve been the victim of a racial crime and been on the receiving end of an unpleasant experience with a plain clothes officer and fyi I’m Caucasian.
Jays3891 Verified Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Didn’t you just say it’s a great thing to have diversity? Or was that only when it benefits you? The OP was critical of an individual who just so happens to be a person of colour, so that automatically makes him a racist? Is this the kind of critical thinking and behaviour you live your life by? As far as being uncomfortable and marginalized, I’ve been to Gary, Indiana. Those people are truely the above. I’ve been the victim of a racial crime and been on the receiving end of an unpleasant experience with a plain clothes officer and fyi I’m Caucasian. Um ok let's recruit members of Al Qaeda and KKK too, any diversty is good right? I'm sorry you had one day where a plain clothes Officer ruined your day, its something us black guys have never dealt with lol...a black kid in Sacramento just killed in his backyard for no reason by cops...here in Ottawa a police officer recently got charged with manslaughter for killing an unarmed black guy..racism is everywhere, including this message board!
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 me right now I both admire your skills, and hate you.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 me right now http://mkjon.es/gifs/troll%20cat%20scratching%20other%20who%20scratches%20third.gif
ChrisS Verified Member Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Um ok let's recruit members of Al Qaeda and KKK too, any diversty is good right? I'm sorry you had one day where a plain clothes Officer ruined your day, its something us black guys have never dealt with lol...a black kid in Sacramento just killed in his backyard for no reason by cops...here in Ottawa a police officer recently got charged with manslaughter for killing an unarmed black guy..racism is everywhere, including this message board! I bet your familiar with all the instances of blacks being shot by police, yet you can’t name one out of the thousands of black on black homicides every year that happen in the US. White people get killed by police all the time too. I was jumped and robbed in the middle of the night by 5 black men, so boohoo to you and your uncomfortable feelings. If your getting bothered by the police on a regular basis then your the problem. Racism is everywhere because you make it that way. You are absolute proof of that in this thread. Stroman was criticized because of his behaviour and his character and you went and made it a race issue. You could have taken a step back, looked at the facts of why we are saying he is a douchebag and maybe come to a different conclusion. Instead you keep hurling racism this racism that. Racism racism racism racism etc etc etc etc etc. That speaks volumes about your own character.
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