GDT: Blue Jays @ Indians 7:10 EST Game 1 of 3

[burlingtonbandit]

Gotta get to 5 innings to get him a chance at the W..

 

f***in Gibbons

[Spanky99]

lulz... all Gibby's fault, right!

[jaysguy44]

Gotta get to 5 innings to get him a chance at the W..

 

f***in Gibbons

 

Oh shut up f***

[Governator]

It's like RA Dickey 2.0, guess the implosion inning all over again.

[Spanky99]

If guys can't execute, it's not on the manager. We're using the BP in 3 straight games before the 5th for f*** sakes!

[Omar]

lulz... all Gibby's fault, right!

 

Come on, we were all dreading Estrada pitching to EE.

[Terminator]

Estrada suxxx. I get the calls to pull him but in order to get something for him or in order to contend again he's got to get this figured out. Plus the bullpen is getting taxed from all these s***** starts. I don't mind Gibby trying to get his starter through the freaking 5th inning at least.

[Spanky99]

Come on, we were all dreading Estrada pitching to EE.

 

Does it matter, he's a dangerous hitter, no matter who's on the hill.

[Governator]

Estrada suxxx. I get the calls to pull him but in order to get something for him or in order to contend again he's got to get this figured out. Plus the bullpen is getting taxed from all these s***** starts. I don't mind Gibby trying to get his starter through the freaking 5th inning at least.

 

If he can't be traded, swap (or piggyback) Biagini for Estrada?

[Spanky99]

Estrada suxxx. I get the calls to pull him but in order to get something for him or in order to contend again he's got to get this figured out. Plus the bullpen is getting taxed from all these s***** starts. I don't mind Gibby trying to get his starter through the freaking 5th inning at least.

 

Yup, just said it.

[Spanky99]

If he can't be traded, swap (or piggyback) Biagini for Estrada?

 

Why?

[Ray]

Reid-Foley tore it up tonight in AA. 12K's through 6.2 IP. Only 1ER and 2BB

[Governator]

Why?

 

Because Biagini was arguably more consistent?

[Slade]

RIP Estrada's career, it was a great 2 years.

[wk680]

If guys can't execute, it's not on the manager. We're using the BP in 3 straight games before the 5th for f*** sakes!

 

Yeah this is a fiasco. Total 180 degrees from 2016 when I think the the Jays led all of MLB in innings pitched by the starters. I think I am done watching Estrada and Liriano flail away. So glad they are both gone after this season.

[Spanky99]

Because Biagini was arguably more consistent?

 

At getting lit up, sure.

[Omar]

2 run game...lets get them.

[Governator]

At getting lit up, sure.

 

I guess

[Spanky99]

I guess

 

Beeg belongs where he is at this point. He excels there.

[BillBucknorslegs]

At getting lit up, sure.

 

Biagini: ERA 5.11, FIP 3.74, xFIP 3.89, 0.89 HR/9

 

Estrada: ERA 5.33, FIP 4.31, xFIP 4.60, 1.46 HR/9

[Spanky99]

f***, there pen is so good.

[Spanky99]

Biagini: ERA 5.11, FIP 3.74, xFIP 3.89, 0.89 HR/9

 

Estrada: ERA 5.33, FIP 4.31, xFIP 4.60, 1.46 HR/9

 

So, until Estrada's moved bro, there's no point. Those numbers are as a starter, correct?

[BillBucknorslegs]

So, until Estrada's moved bro, there's no point.

 

I agree with this and I would have left Estrada in against EE, but I would also like to see Beeg stretched out for several starts again.

[Ray]

f***, there pen is so good.

 

Our 'pen has been incredible too. By fWAR, 6th best bullpen in the MLB and 5th in the AL: https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=rel&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2017&month=0&season1=2017&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=18,d

 

Not that far off from the Indians. 4.2 bullpen fWAR for us vs. 4.4 bullpen fWAR for the Indians.

[Spanky99]

It's Kluber Buck, already announced.

[Spanky99]

Our 'pen has been incredible too. By fWAR, 6th best bullpen in the MLB and 5th in the AL: https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=rel&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2017&month=0&season1=2017&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=18,d

 

Not that far off from the Indians. 4.2 bullpen fWAR for us vs. 4.4 bullpen fWAR for the Indians.

 

Yeah man, our pen has been a bright spot.

[Spanky99]

I agree with this and I would have left Estrada in against EE, but I would also like to see Beeg stretched out for several starts again.

 

We'll see soon, the deadline looms.

[Spanky99]

Not to mention our pen is gassed you baffoon Tabler.

[Spanky99]

Loup's been a boss.

[Spanky99]

Beliveau has a quirky delivery. Taps in the glove twice and s***. Pegs a hitter, lol.