GDT: Braves @ Jays Game 2 of 2 4:07 EST

[Spanky99]

Terrible loss... we might've lost regardless, but not like that.

[Laika]

Kemp is crushing every pitch and Freeman is homering every game and Buck and Pat are like "these Braves are scrappy!" lol

[BlueJayWay]

That bunt call was horrible. Just idiotic. Almost 'Showalter not using Britton in the wild card game' bad.

[Spanky99]

Zaun's an idiot.

[Spanky99]

That bunt call was horrible. Just idiotic. Almost 'Showalter not using Britton in the wild card game' bad.

 

Not that bad.

[Spanky99]

Gibby is just like Dwayne Casey. They both keep a good locker room but are the worst in game tacticians.

 

Apples to Oranges... Gibby's a good manager for what you just posted, he f***ed up today. Casey's brutal.

[Gary]

Not only did a bunt in that situation make zero sense. Travis clearly wasn't comfortable doing it.

Maybe Travis should learn how to bunt.

[Spanky99]

Sid's an idiot, he;s funny but dumn... at least Tim brings balance.

[Inklink]

WTF 4PM game FFS

[Spanky99]

WTF 4PM game FFS

 

Get away day... they move to Atlanta tomorrow.

[Effit]

WTF 4PM game FFS

 

West Texas Forever gets blamed for everything around here.

[Spanky99]

Just realized Maile has Zeppelin's Kashmir for walk up song.......his stock just went up.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDwotNLyz10

[Daniel Labude]

1 good thing about this game...I was able to skip the 9th inning and walk 6 miles!

[Gary]

1 good thing about this game...I was able to skip the 9th inning and walk 6 miles!

 

Good job buddy! Where did you walk to?

[Daniel Labude]

Good job buddy! Where did you walk to?

 

I live in the States...just walked to my friends house and back, 3 miles each way

[vdubmvp]

Skimmed the last few pages to make sure everyone here hated that bunt call. Was not disappointed. I should have checked it out during the game since some people around me thought it was the right call and I was kind of dying.

[John_Havok]

Wtf... just checked the box scores and saw the bunt situation. ...

 

f***ing stupid. Tying running already in scoring position. That's no excuse for Travis not to execute it, but that's a stupid call.

[Spanky99]

Skimmed the last few pages to make sure everyone here hated that bunt call. Was not disappointed. I should have checked it out during the game since some people around me thought it was the right call and I was kind of dying.

 

lol... I f***ing hate that.

[Spanky99]

K-Rod seems finished.

[IBTrini]

1 good thing about this game...I was able to skip the 9th inning and walk 6 miles!

This is weird - the innings and the distance. I skipped the first 6 innings to get in a 9.9 mile walk (if I don't do it early I lose incentive later) thinking I could always look at "Jays in 30". After seeing the bunt call and the loss, there was no incentive to see the show.

[IBTrini]

Skimmed the last few pages to make sure everyone here hated that bunt call. Was not disappointed. I should have checked it out during the game since some people around me thought it was the right call and I was kind of dying.

Did the same here as well - was curious to see what the general consensus was on that call.

[Brownie19]

I'm not going to read the s*** show about the bunt - but god knows if he hits into a double play there, there's as many people upset that they didn't bunt. Being a manager sucks (except the money part)

[wk680]

I'm not going to read the s*** show about the bunt - but god knows if he hits into a double play there, there's as many people upset that they didn't bunt. Being a manager sucks (except the money part)

 

Probably on this board there wouldn't be that many complaining about a GIDP in that situation. I found it ironic that after Travis struck out, the next batter hit into a different kind of DP with the runner being doubled off on the line out. Anyway, it was a pretty painful couple games to watch the last two days.

 

Also, I wonder if the decision to bunt in these type of situations is Gibbons only or with input from the management and analytics people.

[Daniel Labude]

This is weird - the innings and the distance. I skipped the first 6 innings to get in a 9.9 mile walk (if I don't do it early I lose incentive later) thinking I could always look at "Jays in 30". After seeing the bunt call and the loss, there was no incentive to see the show.

 

It took me about 2 1/2 hours. Longest I have walked that I can remember. Left when the 9th inning started got back around 9:30.

[metafour]

 

Also, I wonder if the decision to bunt in these type of situations is Gibbons only or with input from the management and analytics people.

 

I can almost guarantee you that no analytics person is suggesting a gameplan that revolves around a superior hitter giving up an out (bad) so that career scrubs like Goins and Barney can hopefully cash runners in.

[IBTrini]

That's similar to my time (2:35) and also my longest - usually do 11k 4-5 days a week depending on the weather. Also I get to see a lot of interesting people and pickup ideas for landscaping from around the surrounding areas.

[wk680]

I can almost guarantee you that no analytics person is suggesting a gameplan that revolves around a superior hitter giving up an out (bad) so that career scrubs like Goins and Barney can hopefully cash runners in.

 

Yes but possible that Gibbons is not just making these tactical decisions on his own. It seems to me he used to be all about just letting everyone swing away.

[Brownie19]

I can almost guarantee you that no analytics person is suggesting a gameplan that revolves around a superior hitter giving up an out (bad) so that career scrubs like Goins and Barney can hopefully cash runners in.

 

I get the impression that a lot of people take the hard stance that bunting is always a bad idea because STATS. I really hate this notion. There are a pile of variables that come into play (batters matchup v. the pitcher, current hot/cold streaks, # of outs, inning, score, upcoming batters - and their matchup v. the pitcher)....none of which are factored into the stats people base these hard opinions on. To pre-set your game plan around generic stats and to be unwilling to have in game flexibility is incredibly shortsighted.

 

Travis isn't Barry Bonds. He's a career 107 wRC+ hitter who's been utterly awful at the plate this year (quote the # of doubles he has all you want - he's still been runny dog s***). He's been hitting better lately, but at this point, he isn't a significantly superior hitter to Zeke or Barney. If he actually does his job there, there's a good chance the game gets tied up or that the Jays take the lead.

[Drumcliff]

I get the impression that a lot of people take the hard stance that bunting is always a bad idea because STATS. I really hate this notion. There are a pile of variables that come into play (batters matchup v. the pitcher, current hot/cold streaks, # of outs, inning, score, upcoming batters - and their matchup v. the pitcher)....none of which are factored into the stats people base these hard opinions on. To pre-set your game plan around generic stats and to be unwilling to have in game flexibility is incredibly shortsighted.

 

Travis isn't Barry Bonds. He's a career 107 wRC+ hitter who's been utterly awful at the plate this year (quote the # of doubles he has all you want - he's still been runny dog s***). He's been hitting better lately, but at this point, he isn't a significantly superior hitter to Zeke or Barney. If he actually does his job there, there's a good chance the game gets tied up or that the Jays take the lead.

In my view, the bunt call was iffy, not because of who was up but because of who was to follow (Barney and Carrera). But that being said, Travis's inability to put the bunt down was bush league stuff. Strike two was a fastball down the middle, and he couldn't even put the bat on it? Not good enough. It's on Travis, not Gibbons (and believe me, I have no trouble criticizing Gibbons at any time).