Around Baseball 2017

[burlingtonbandit]

Shouldn't be hard to extend Stroman he seems to really like Toronto.

 

I think he likes $ more.

[Angrioter]

We are f***ed. Put Jays in the NL Central please

[glory]

 

Wonder what it would take to get him.

[Ray]

Rather trade for Yelich and take Prado back with him.

 

If we are taking back a bad contract, I'd rather it be Chen. He can slot in as our 5th starter.

[TBJ12]

Jays showing interest in Jay Bruce...again. Why????

[Ray]

Chen makes like 25M in 2019 and 2020 if I'm not mistaken.

 

$18M in 2018, $20M in 2019, $22M in 2020. Not great, but to get someone like a Yelich absolutely worth it. You get one of the best contracts in baseball with someone like Yelich who's locked up for 5 years. Extract whatever value you can out of the 5th starter spot from Chen. Two birds, one stone.

[John_Havok]

You compare Miggy and Pujols contracts to Stantons: Assuming Stanton doesn't opt out, from ages 31-37 he'll be getting paid $26.8M by the Yankees, which won't even look like that much compared to what other guys are gonna be making by that point because of contract inflation. Not to mention they won't have to pay for Stantons 38-42 age seasons unlike the other teams have to for Votto, Miggy, and Pujols. Cashman pulled off a hell of a deal.

 

You're forgetting the high liklihoodood of a Stanton opt out. If he has a great few seasons, its a no brainer to opt out and test free agency again. Yankees may not even have to deal with any art of his decline phase

[glory]

You're forgetting the high liklihoodood of a Stanton opt out. If he has a great few seasons, its a no brainer to opt out and test free agency again. Yankees may not even have to deal with any art of his decline phase

 

Stanton would be opting out of a guaranteed 7/218 + NTC at age 31.

 

If Dave Dombrowski is still a GM in three years, then maybe he could get more than 7/218 in his 30's, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[Krylian]

Jays showing interest in Jay Bruce...again. Why????

 

Don't question the Shat.

[Ray]

You're forgetting the high liklihoodood of a Stanton opt out. If he has a great few seasons, its a no brainer to opt out and test free agency again. Yankees may not even have to deal with any art of his decline phase

 

I don't think there's a high likelihood he opts out at all. Highly doubt he does better than 7/218 + a NTC at age 31.

 

Also, his agent has said as much:

 

[TBJ12]

Don't question the Shat.

 

Go get him already then!

[Brownie19]

The Yankees are looking insanely good:

 

Lineup:

 

C. Gary Sanchez

1B. Greg Bird

2B. Gleybar Torres

SS. Didi Gregorious

3B. Chase Headley/Miguel Andujar

RF. Aaron Judge

CF. Jacoby Ellsbury

LF. Aaron Hicks

DH. Giancarlo Stanton

 

Rotation:

 

1. Luis Severino

2. Masahiro Tanaka

3. Sonny Gray

4. Jordan Montgomery

5. Luis Cessa

 

Bullpen:

1. Aroldis Chapman (CL)

2. David Robertson (SU)

3. Tommy Kahnle

4. Chad Green

5. Dellin Betances

 

Meanwhile they still have solid cheap starting pitching depth in the minors like Chance Adams, Justus Sheffield, and Domingo Acevedo who can easily slot in that 5th starter spot, but at this point they should go full super team and trade a package of Clint Frazier for a top of the rotation guy like Gerrit Cole. It might also serve them well if they can get a good defensive catcher since Sanchez' isn't the best blocker

 

You forgot Brett Gardner. Ellsbury is the 4th OFer...

[Ray]

You forgot Brett Gardner. Ellsbury is the 4th OFer...

 

$21M 4th OF and pinch runner.

[Sammy225]

You forgot Brett Gardner. Ellsbury is the 4th OFer...

 

If they can find someway to move Ellsbury you can bet your ass they will get rid of him. I think the only way they can do it though is if they eat some money.

[Brownie19]

Remember when Ellsbury was the best player in baseball in 2011? The good ole days.

 

It's too bad he plays for the Yanks - as he'd be a decent fit for the Jays if the Yanks would eat 40%+ of his contract. I'd take him at 3 years, $13.66M AAV.

[G-Snarls]

If they can find someway to move Ellsbury you can bet your ass they will get rid of him. I think the only way they can do it though is if they eat some money.

 

Sources from the usual reporters say the Yankees have offered to eat *half* his salary in a trade in order to unload him

Edited December 12, 2017 by G-Snarls

[G-Snarls]

[G-Snarls]

I almost hope the Orioles feel they screwed up with Arrietta and blow 200M to get him back now

 

They can't seem to convince any other SP to sign

 

LOL

[Brownie19]

I almost hope the Orioles feel they screwed up with Arrietta and blow 200M to get him back now

 

They can't seem to convince any other SP to sign

 

LOL

 

The O's were obviously impressed by the Mark Trumbo colouring book they received last year - so there's always hope. Maybe Boras added some pop-ups this year - everyone loves pop-ups!

[Dr. Dinger]

Soooo the Padres are trying to sign Hosmer and the Phillies are trying to sign Arrieta? I can't think of two worse matches.

[G-Snarls]

[Dr. Dinger]

The max I'd be giving Arrieta is about 4 years, $70M after the obvious decline & wear and tear he's shown the last two seasons. Since 2015, his FB velo has dropped from 94.6 to 92.1, his SwStr has dropped from 11.1% to 8.7%, his GB rate has dropped from 56.2% to 45.1%, his HR rate has almost doubled. Just massive dropoff across the board, and he'll be 32 before the season starts. Any GM would be truly insane to give him 5 years and 9 figures.

[BTS]

Padres acquire Headley and Mitchell. This is big for NY if they're eating the entire 13M Headley is owed.

[Dr. Dinger]

Padres acquire Headley and Mitchell. This is big for NY if they're eating the entire 13M Headley is owed.

 

Interesting that the Yankees have now traded their starting 2B and starting 3B. I wonder if they are heavily in on Machado, and what this says about Gleyber's recovery timeline.

[jays4life19]

 

Lol wut.

[G-Snarls]

Lol wut.

 

Boras trying to pretend like 2017 didn't happen or something

[G-Snarls]

Buck Showalter being a total pick and yet sort of funny on MLB Network

[Sammy225]

Safe to say if he is looking for 200M he doesn't sign before Spring Training starts. This guy is not a f***ing ace lol.

[G-Snarls]

Yankees want Moustakas now maybe?

 

Or holding out for Machado/Donaldson

 

No way they trade Headley and Castro unless the have something else already close to done

[Dr. Dinger]

Lol wut.

 

According to Scott Boras, every player is best interpreted as their career year, which they will re-produce annually until retirement. Age and decline are fake news. Pay for what my client did, not what he will do!

 

I honestly think Scott Boras might be shockingly ill-educated about baseball. In reality he's probably just a dickhead lawyer who starts high and negotiates like an ******* because of his reputation and client list. The figures that he puts out in the public realm are almost never rooted in reality.