Around Baseball 2017

[TholesWeirdEye]

White Sox DFAd Jason Coats--should the Jays take a flyer on him?

 

Why the hell not.

[Terminator]

[Terminator]

There goes another corner OF option although 4 years of Karns seems like a pretty steep price for one year of Dyson, no?

[jaysfan2014]

 

Not a bad deal for either side--Mariners get better defensively with more speed on the basepaths, Royals get a controllable starter--which they DESPERATELY need, allowing them to move Matt Strahm back to the bullpen.

[Terminator]

Not a bad deal for either side--Mariners get better defensively with more speed on the basepaths, Royals get a controllable starter--which they DESPERATELY need, allowing them to move Matt Strahm back to the bullpen.

 

Yeah I can see what the Royals are doing. They basically turned two good players on the last year of their deals (Davis and Dyson) and turned them in to two average players with control (Soler and Karns). Not inspiring moves but it at least fills a couple of holes for the next few years.

[Abomination]

Not a bad deal for either side--Mariners get better defensively with more speed on the basepaths, Royals get a controllable starter--which they DESPERATELY need, allowing them to move Matt Strahm back to the bullpen.

 

I wonder how long it'll take for the Mariners to move Dyson to 1B, or DH, or something? That's their MO, isn't it? Move good defensive players to other positions, and move 1B/DH guys to the OF?

 

On a personal note, in the LOD I was really REALLY looking forward to Strahm getting a chance to start

[Terminator]

I wonder how long it'll take for the Mariners to move Dyson to 1B, or DH, or something? That's their MO, isn't it? Move good defensive players to other positions, and move 1B/DH guys to the OF?

 

I think they have learned their lesson. They have good OF defense now.

[Ray]

Royals window is gone. I 100% expect them to be sellers at the deadline. Will be interesting to see where guys like Cain, Escobar, Moustakas, and Hosmer end up

[Spanky__99]

I wonder how long it'll take for the Mariners to move Dyson to 1B, or DH, or something? That's their MO, isn't it? Move good defensive players to other positions, and move 1B/DH guys to the OF?

 

On a personal note, in the LOD I was really REALLY looking forward to Strahm getting a chance to start

 

I think they have learned their lesson. They have good OF defense now.

 

New FO fellas'

[King]

So the Mariners are looking a lot different than they did 3 months ago.

 

C - Zunino/Ruiz

1B - Vogelbach/Valencia

2B - Cano

SS - Segura

3B - Seager (Valencia)

OF - Haniger, Dyson, Leonys Martin, Ben Gamel/Guillermo Heredia

DH - Nelson Cruz

 

SP - Felix

SP - Iwakuma

SP - Paxton

SP - Gallardo

SP - Ariel Miranda

SP - Chris Heston

 

RP - Diaz/Cishek/Scrabble/ Scribner/Vincent

 

Fangraphs has them at a projected 81 wins.

[P2F]

That's a team easily in the mix for a wildcard spot if health and a few games go their way.

[King]

That's a team easily in the mix for a wildcard spot if health and a few games go their way.

 

It's not too hard to see a few of or all of Felix, Paxton, Iwakuma and Gallardo spending a significant amount of time on the DL

[Ray]

Mariners are looking decent. Think the Astros have that division all but locked up though. Especially if they get Quintana.

 

Wildcard race is looking tough. Tigers, Mariners, Yankees, Rangers.

[P2F]

It's not too hard to see a few of or all of Felix, Paxton, Iwakuma and Gallardo spending a significant amount of time on the DL

Yes, that is likely, although really you could say that about any rotation at any given time. I do agree with you, though.

[P2F]

Mariners are looking decent. Think the Astros have that division all but locked up though. Especially if they get Quintana.

 

Wildcard race is looking tough. Tigers, Mariners, Yankees, Rangers.

Jays and Angels are in that race as well.

[jaysblue]

Watch Gallardo thrive in Safeco lol.

[Terminator]

Jays and Angels are in that race as well.

 

Not with our current OF we won't.

[P2F]

Not with our current OF we won't.

Give it time. Valbuena, Moss, Bautista are all still available. There are players to be had via trade. I'm sure Shatkins realize they can't break camp with the current OF.

[Terminator]

Give it time. Valbuena, Moss, Bautista are all still available. There are players to be had via trade. I'm sure Shatkins realize they can't break camp with the current OF.

 

Yeah I think we'll bring in somebody. Ideally we bring in two more players but I'm not sure that we will.

[P2F]

Yeah I think we'll bring in somebody. Ideally we bring in two more players but I'm not sure that we will.

Agreed. Valbuena + an OF would be the most ideal, I think. I'd even take Bautista at this point, but only if he's a good value 1 or 2 year deal. The value of the draft pick needs to be factored in to anything he signs, imo.

[fatcowxlive]

Best used vs. RHP and as a DH--his OF defense is trash.

 

He would have been perfect to platoon with Upton

[Brownie19]

Is Karns the next Wade Davis???

 

Sad to see Dyson go.

[JuniorFelix]

Is Karns the next Wade Davis???

 

Sad to see Dyson go.

 

Me too. Would have loved for the Jays to somehow swing a deal for him.

[glory]

Dammit, Dyson would have been a great fit for the Jays. Oh well.

[BTS]

Really wanted Dyson. I wonder if KC would have taken Estrada over Karns.

[burlingtonbandit]

Really wanted Dyson. I wonder if KC would have taken Estrada over Karns.

 

Probably not since Karns has more control.

[P2F]

Really wanted Dyson. I wonder if KC would have taken Estrada over Karns.

I wondered the same thing.

[BTS]

Probably not since Karns has more control.

 

Yeah. Two extra years of control and makes like 13.5M less than Estrada this year.

[Brownie19]

Would they have taken Biagini?

[glory]

Estrada is a free agent after 2017 just like the rest of their team. I doubt they would have done that. If the Jays still had Hutchison, that probably would have been the type of pitcher they would have went for (think he has 3 years of control left, while Karns has 4).