Stroman or Sanchez

[Laika]

Remarkable how many f***ing morons thought Sanchez was better.

[Krylian]

Remarkable how many f***ing morons thought Sanchez was better.

 

It's easy to get seduced by "stuff"

[Boxcar]

You all got your asses handed to you regarding Goins for two and a half seasons and you all know it.

 

Pillar was looking great for the first two months of the season, but then he turned back into Kevin Pillar.

 

I was totally wrong regarding Biagini.

 

The Goins success story alone should have you guys sucking your own dicks for another decade.

 

What Goins success story?

[Boxcar]

Stroman

 

3 main reasons

 

- Talent is a lot closer than people think (edge Sanchez)

- Sanchez' arm is going to blow up at some point

- Sanchez has more trade value right now and it's not close

 

Wow what a f***ing moron!

[max silver]

You all got your asses handed to you regarding Goins for two and a half seasons and you all know it.

 

Pillar was looking great for the first two months of the season, but then he turned back into Kevin Pillar.

 

I was totally wrong regarding Biagini.

 

The Goins success story alone should have you guys sucking your own dicks for another decade.

 

You mean the same Ryan Goins who has had exactly one season where he eclipsed the 0.2 WAR mark? I'm not so sure you should be patting yourself on the back too hard for that one all things considered.

[Spanky99]

What Goins success story?

 

lol... he's still delusional, f***ing coach, man.

[gruber92]

What Goins success story?

 

The story where you all thought he wouldn't last six weeks in the show. He was a big part of 15 and 16 seasons, stop pretending he wasn't.

[max silver]

The story where you all thought he wouldn't last six weeks in the show. He was a big part of 15 and 16 seasons, stop pretending he wasn't.

 

The guy had exactly one season with the Jays where he wasn't a total f***ing disaster, that was 2015. Take a look at his 2016 numbers and tell me if you still think that's a guy that was a big part of a team:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/ryan-goins/9807/stats?position=2B/SS

 

I see a guy that put up a 39!!! WRC+, and managed to be worth an impressive -0.8 WAR in only 196 AB. If both Devon Travis and Tulo weren't made of glass he would have received very few at bats if he still manged to stick with the team

[DigitalRock]

You all got your asses handed to you regarding Goins for two and a half seasons and you all know it.

 

Pillar was looking great for the first two months of the season, but then he turned back into Kevin Pillar.

 

I was totally wrong regarding Biagini.

 

The Goins success story alone should have you guys sucking your own dicks for another decade.

 

Goins Success story...LMAO...You are the dumbest person on this forum and that is saying a lot.

[gruber92]

I forgot how many sour punks are on this board.

[Dick_Pole]

The guy had exactly one season with the Jays where he wasn't a total f***ing disaster, that was 2015. Take a look at his 2016 numbers and tell me if you still think that's a guy that was a big part of a team:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/ryan-goins/9807/stats?position=2B/SS

 

I see a guy that put up a 39!!! WRC+, and managed to be worth an impressive -0.8 WAR in only 196 AB. If both Devon Travis and Tulo weren't made of glass he would have received very few at bats if he still manged to stick with the team

 

LOL the only stat I see there that is relevant is the 1,680 plate appearances. IIRC Gruber never said he was going to be a star. He said he was going to stick. And he did. How he did it is not relevant. Anyone could have seen the Jays paper thin MIF situation and surmise that Goins had a chance to stick around and suck. This forum has a moving goal post against Gruber because he's an angry lunatic most of the time and people just don't like him. But in this instance he looks correct to me.

 

Bringing up a 4 year old grudge over a scrub player is just so lame. Can you people not just admit he's right and move on? It's not like lightning is going to hit you tonight for doing so.

[Nafro]

Who is Ryan Goins?

[Jimcanuck]

LOL the only stat I see there that is relevant is the 1,680 plate appearances. IIRC Gruber never said he was going to be a star. He said he was going to stick. And he did. How he did it is not relevant. Anyone could have seen the Jays paper thin MIF situation and surmise that Goins had a chance to stick around and suck. This forum has a moving goal post against Gruber because he's an angry lunatic most of the time and people just don't like him. But in this instance he looks correct to me.

 

Bringing up a 4 year old grudge over a scrub player is just so lame. Can you people not just admit he's right and move on? It's not like lightning is going to hit you tonight for doing so.

 

What would be the fun of that?

[Dick_Pole]

What would be the fun of that?

 

Jim I know that you're on the deserved receiving end of scorn a lot so this is new (and apparently fun) territory for you. But not everyone gets the same level of enjoyment. For instance, I much prefer being the contrarian. The Houston Astros and gruber92 will be baseball's heroes in 2020.

[Spanky99]

LOL the only stat I see there that is relevant is the 1,680 plate appearances. IIRC Gruber never said he was going to be a star. He said he was going to stick. And he did. How he did it is not relevant. Anyone could have seen the Jays paper thin MIF situation and surmise that Goins had a chance to stick around and suck. This forum has a moving goal post against Gruber because he's an angry lunatic most of the time and people just don't like him. But in this instance he looks correct to me.

 

Bringing up a 4 year old grudge over a scrub player is just so lame. Can you people not just admit he's right and move on? It's not like lightning is going to hit you tonight for doing so.

 

Shaddup... ya big dummy!

[Nafro]

LOL the only stat I see there that is relevant is the 1,680 plate appearances. IIRC Gruber never said he was going to be a star. He said he was going to stick. And he did. How he did it is not relevant. Anyone could have seen the Jays paper thin MIF situation and surmise that Goins had a chance to stick around and suck. This forum has a moving goal post against Gruber because he's an angry lunatic most of the time and people just don't like him. But in this instance he looks correct to me.

 

Bringing up a 4 year old grudge over a scrub player is just so lame. Can you people not just admit he's right and move on? It's not like lightning is going to hit you tonight for doing so.

 

I believe a mid-winter lightning storm will occur, and strike me, if I do so.