Stroman or Sanchez

[King]

If you had to choose one or the other, who would you keep moving forward?

[gruber92]

King is doing his best to be voted dumbest poster of the year.

[BTS]

Sanchez

[Laika]

If you had to choose one or the other, who would you keep moving forward?

 

Stroman

 

3 main reasons

 

- Talent is a lot closer than people think (edge Sanchez)

- Sanchez' arm is going to blow up at some point

- Sanchez has more trade value right now and it's not close

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

King is doing his best to be voted dumbest poster of the year.

 

King is this True? Or are we all humanary stew unless we pledge aligence to the Black Widow?

[jays4life19]

Biagini! jk. I picked Stroman.

[LGBJ29]

Sancheezy, cause his height measures his heart

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

If you had to choose one or the other, who would you keep moving forward?

 

Why can't we keep both??? Lol

[AdamGreenwood]

Sanchez.

Stroman looks too much like Ricky Romero, so I don't trust him.

[SweetSmellingChacin]

Can't we keep both long term?

[Krylian]

Thor

[Gary]

Stroman projects as a career reliever. Sanchez and it isn't even close.

 

AA should have pulled the trigger on the Carasco for Stroman trade.

[Abomination]

I wouldn't trade either, unless we were ripping the other team off.

[Abomination]

Stroman projects as a career reliever. Sanchez and it isn't even close.

 

AA should have pulled the trigger on the Carasco for Stroman trade.

 

Stroman does NOT project as a career reliever. In fact, he projects at 3.2 WAR next year and a 3.68 era/fip. That would put him roughly in the top 30 amongst starters for WAR and top 40 for FIP based on this year's numbers, and that WAR number is probably low as he'll likely exceed the projected innings.

[Grant77]

Another idiotic thread. Maybe we should start another called 'Travis or Goins'. Time for your first thread deletion Governator.

[Gary]

Maybe we should start another called 'Travis or Goins'.

 

That's not a bad idea.

[Dick_Pole]

I voted Stroman because the second that you board s***-iots get too high on Sanchez is the exact moment he will turn into dog turd. Do you not remember the Stroman projects to be an ace conversations this time last year? Sanchez is a reliever or #4/5 guy. That's what I said last year and I am sticking to it unlike all of you hive-mind bandwagon jumpers.

[Gary]

Stroman does NOT project as a career reliever. In fact, he projects at 3.2 WAR next year and a 3.68 era/fip. That would put him roughly in the top 30 amongst starters for WAR and top 40 for FIP based on this year's numbers, and that WAR number is probably low as he'll likely exceed the projected innings.

 

A 5'6" starting pitcher is not sustainable when they age.

[Abomination]

A 5'6" starting pitcher is not sustainable when they age.

 

He's 5'8 or 5'9, but even if it's not sustainable as he ages, he's only 25. We control him for another 4 full years. The height probably doesn't catch up with him until his early 30's, IF it does then. Flash Gordon was 30 when he moved to the pen, and he was much more of a string bean. He's probably the closest comparable. Even then, he was an all-star closer.

 

Keeping him going forward doesn't mean retiring as a Jay.

[Captain Adama]

Stroman vs. Sanchez is an old school guy's wet dream of "I told you so".

 

Stroman is a big league starter but height does seem to matter when you're talking margin for error. Sanchez's margin for error is gargantuan because of his fastball. Which would lead you to believe he is a much safer long-term guy.

 

Sanchez's fastball is too good. Been saying it for over a year. If you can get through a lineup 3 times based on your one pitch, you are a stud.

 

I've never, ever seen Sanchez dominate a lineup 3 times with just one pitch.

[Grant77]

I've never, ever seen Sanchez dominate a lineup 3 times with just one pitch.

 

This statement puzzles me because I have seen it multiple times, but I won't argue semantics. It's safe to say he often has success 3 times through while relying heavily on his fastball.

[G-Snarls]

Sanchez better career

 

But glad we still have both

[Captain Adama]

I said "get through".

 

But ok.

 

Also there was a start 2 years ago against HOU where they couldn't get the ball out of the infield for something like 8 IP and Sanchez threw like 5 breaking balls.

 

You're right, but my original point stands.

 

Regarding his start against the Astros, he threw 91% of his pitches for fastballs. Went for a 3.68 xFIP and a FIP over 4.

 

One start sure, but his K rate rises along with the use of his secondary pitches.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Another idiotic thread. Maybe we should start another called 'Travis or Goins'. Time for your first thread deletion Governator.

 

Oh Grant, lighten up buddy this is better then most threads started of late!

 

Miles better then the League of Dicks membership drive and bogus vote seen on here.

 

This and all the useless threads that followed since then can all be blamed and traced back to BTS!!!

 

Damn him!!! Lol

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

I picked Shanchez cause he doesn't need a hundred different pitches or grips as Stroman feels he needs to succeed as it stands right now.If Stroman would throw what works rather then what he thinks works best it might be different ! Focus on purrfecting 4 rather then 10 kinda thing!

[burlingtonbandit]

Sanchez.

Stroman looks too much like Ricky Romero, so I don't trust him.

 

Racist.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Racist.

 

Lol

[Boxcar]

If you had to choose one or the other, who would you keep moving forward?

 

Stop making threads.

[Boxcar]

King is doing his best to be voted dumbest poster of the year.

 

He had that locked up months ago

[Boxcar]

Stroman does NOT project as a career reliever. In fact, he projects at 3.2 WAR next year and a 3.68 era/fip. That would put him roughly in the top 30 amongst starters for WAR and top 40 for FIP based on this year's numbers, and that WAR number is probably low as he'll likely exceed the projected innings.

 

3.2 WAR is ace territory.