G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 If a team makes a claim on him, don't they have to accept him (and his contract), if the Dodgers are willing to let him go for nothing? Yes, but they won't They'll want something in return
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 All the NL teams get to try first too right? Red Sox would then be wayyy down the AL list By win %: 1-Division (1-Padres, 2-dBacks, 3-Rox, 4-Giants lol) 2-League (5-Braves, 6-Reds, 7-Brewers, 8-Phillies, and 6 more teams) 3-The other league (16-Twins, 17-A's, 18-Rays, 19-Angels, and 7 more teams before 27-Boston, 28-Blue Jays, 29-Indians, 30-Rangers)
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 You'd think an NL contender would have made a claim even if not interested in acquiring him. He has elite skills and is capable of absolutely exploding over a short stretch. You'd think that if he got to the -playoff teams, someone would have made a claim to block their rivals. Puig brotha, we have a time bomb in our hands. Puig to Colorado could be nice, but to San Disgo no bueno.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 It is not going to matter Dodgers would be dumb to let him go before Winter. They could likely get much more for him in the off season.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Puig brotha, we have a time bomb in our hands. Puig to Colorado could be nice, but to San Disgo no bueno. I traded Puig.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 It is not going to matter Dodgers would be dumb to let him go before Winter. They could likely get much more for him in the off season. It's not a bad idea to test the market now. The Dodgers could get pieces for the upcoming playoffs. The Jays' FO could lose his mind and send Bautista to the Dodgers for Puig.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Trumbo. http://i.imgur.com/SqZlt1I.gif
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 It's the Braves. That would make much more sense in terms of team order Not sure Kemp and Puig are the best direction for the team but...
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Jim Bowden ESPN Senior Writer Dodgers will not be trading Puig after being claimed on trade waivers at least until the off-season. The claiming team had more interest in blocking than making an earnest attempt to trade for him according to source
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Puig brotha, we have a time bomb in our hands. Puig to Colorado could be nice, but to San Disgo no bueno. I'm a Puig brother, brotha.
JoeCarter Verified Member Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 I have no idea why the market for Puig is as tepid as reports suggest, i.e. Dodgers willing to trade him for a middling lottery ticket prospect. He's under team control for 3 more years: (2 @ $7M + 1 yr of arb). His contract is somewhere between fair value and a bargain: yeah, he's been like a 1 to 1.5 WAR player over the last season and a half, but with 1 WAR = ~$8.5M, that's already quite good value. Factor in a non-negligible chance that he returns to being the 5 - 6 WAR player he was in 2013-14, and he could be a massive steal. He's only 25 damn years old. So fine, he's got an attitude problem and not a great clubhouse guy. Whatever. Again, he's 25. And he'll likely have been chastened by his recent demotion and eager to prove himself. I'd gladly take him in RF for 2017-2019 at $27M over an aging Bautista at $80M. Don't know what the Dodgers asking price is, but if it's as low as some say, I hope Shatkins are at least mulling it over.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 Brewers Won Claim For Yasiel Puig; Trade Talks Involved Ryan Braun By Jeff Todd | September 2, 2016 at 6:41pm CDT The Brewers were the team that won the claim for Dodgers outfielder Yasiel Puig, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter links). Milwaukee engaged in serious conversations about acquiring the 25-year-old before the waiver placement was revoked by Los Angeles. Intriguingly, the trade dialogue between the two organizations included star Brewers outfielder Ryan Braun. It seems reasonably likely that there were quite a few other moving parts involved, but those two players undoubtedly make for fascinating centerpieces on either side. It is not yet clear whether the clubs intend to revisit the matter in the offseason, though it certainly seems plausible. Los Angeles was not interested in parting with Puig unless it obtained a “better player” in the swap, per Rosenthal. If that remains true this winter, then Braun — who is older and more expensive — would certainly fit the mold of the type of asset that could be pursued. Puig remains controllable for three more seasons, his age-26 through age-28 campaigns. Two of those are guaranteed at $14MM total, and Puig can still opt into arbitration, but the total commitment falls shy of his talent level. The question, of course, is whether his poor recent play and somewhat spotty track record at maintaining focus can be reversed. There’s really no question as to the current performance level of Braun, who is carrying a .312/.374/.544 batting line with 24 home runs and 14 steals over 468 plate appearances this year. But he will turn 33 in November and has battled through a laundry list of injury issues. Braun does have a rather robust no-trade clause, but the Dodgers are not on this year’s iteration, meaning he can be traded there without his consent — at least until he has his next opportunity to modify the list. Even assuming his PED past is mostly a non-issue at this point, Braun’s large contract is also a factor in limiting his marketability. He is owed $76MM over the next four years, including the buyout on a $15MM option for 2021.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 Brewers Won Claim For Yasiel Puig; Trade Talks Involved Ryan Braun By Jeff Todd | September 2, 2016 at 6:41pm CDT The Brewers were the team that won the claim for Dodgers outfielder Yasiel Puig, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter links). Milwaukee engaged in serious conversations about acquiring the 25-year-old before the waiver placement was revoked by Los Angeles. Intriguingly, the trade dialogue between the two organizations included star Brewers outfielder Ryan Braun. It seems reasonably likely that there were quite a few other moving parts involved, but those two players undoubtedly make for fascinating centerpieces on either side. It is not yet clear whether the clubs intend to revisit the matter in the offseason, though it certainly seems plausible. Los Angeles was not interested in parting with Puig unless it obtained a “better player” in the swap, per Rosenthal. If that remains true this winter, then Braun — who is older and more expensive — would certainly fit the mold of the type of asset that could be pursued. Puig remains controllable for three more seasons, his age-26 through age-28 campaigns. Two of those are guaranteed at $14MM total, and Puig can still opt into arbitration, but the total commitment falls shy of his talent level. The question, of course, is whether his poor recent play and somewhat spotty track record at maintaining focus can be reversed. There’s really no question as to the current performance level of Braun, who is carrying a .312/.374/.544 batting line with 24 home runs and 14 steals over 468 plate appearances this year. But he will turn 33 in November and has battled through a laundry list of injury issues. Braun does have a rather robust no-trade clause, but the Dodgers are not on this year’s iteration, meaning he can be traded there without his consent — at least until he has his next opportunity to modify the list. Even assuming his PED past is mostly a non-issue at this point, Braun’s large contract is also a factor in limiting his marketability. He is owed $76MM over the next four years, including the buyout on a $15MM option for 2021. I'm surprised they didn't come to a conclusion on this, wow. That would be a decent deal for both clubs.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 Great news for the Puig' owners
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 I'm surprised they didn't come to a conclusion on this, wow. That would be a decent deal for both clubs. Yeah you figure Ryan Braun will be traded eventually by the Brewers. This offseason probably would be the perfect time with a weak FA market. 4 years/$76 million isn't all that bad considering what a free agent bat like EE will get.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 Yeah you figure Ryan Braun will be traded eventually by the Brewers. This offseason probably would be the perfect time with a weak FA market. 4 years/$76 million isn't all that bad considering what a free agent bat like EE will get. I get the motivation.for trading him, but one of the saddest things about modern baseball is the lack of loyalty. If this was 30 years ago even, Braun would be a lifetime Brewer, no question. Now a team goes through a rough patch and he's dead weight with fans clamoring to trade him. It's nobody's fault really, just disappointing.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 I get the motivation.for trading him, but one of the saddest things about modern baseball is the lack of loyalty. If this was 30 years ago even, Braun would be a lifetime Brewer, no question. Now a team goes through a rough patch and he's dead weight with fans clamoring to trade him. It's nobody's fault really, just disappointing. It's a business. The days of players like Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki, etc. staying with the same organization their entire career is pretty rare these days. I'm shocked the Twins haven't tried to unload Mauer as well, though he has very little trade value as a first baseman/DH. I could see him retiring after 2018.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 I get the motivation.for trading him, but one of the saddest things about modern baseball is the lack of loyalty. If this was 30 years ago even, Braun would be a lifetime Brewer, no question. Now a team goes through a rough patch and he's dead weight with fans clamoring to trade him. It's nobody's fault really, just disappointing. Question is, does Braun want to stay there at his age? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't mind going to the post-season with the Dodgers this year, whether they trade him in the off-season remains to be seen, it would have to be to a contender. As jaysblue said, it is what it is nowadays, a business. Players aren't loyal to their orgs anymore either, it's a two way street.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 Ryan Braun didn't become irrelevant because the Brewers suck. He became irrelevant because he juiced, got caught, and tried to get somebody fired for correctly doing their job. And than finally came clean about it despite lying to all the people supporting him and wanting to believe in him. Pretty sure hes a huge piece of s***.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 Ryan Braun didn't become irrelevant because the Brewers suck. He became irrelevant because he juiced, got caught, and tried to get somebody fired for correctly doing their job. And than finally came clean about it despite lying to all the people supporting him and wanting to believe in him. Pretty sure hes a huge piece of s***. Why's Braun irrelevant, who's saying that? He might be a douchecanoe, but he's still a very good ballplayer, meat.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 He's a good player on a s*** team He has no more 7-8 WAR seasons left in him You think he'd like to see the playoffs in his career. But who knows. Maybe he likes the fact that he's out of the spotlight nowadays.
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