GDT: April 14th Jays vs Yankees 3/3 - Stroman vs Eovaldi

[gbill2004]

Batting third in the lineup is a status thing too. Typically that's where the teams best hitter is.

[Angrioter]

Batting third in the lineup is a status thing too. Typically that's where the teams best hitter is.

 

1 > 2 > 3

[G-Snarls]

Batting third in the lineup is a status thing too. Typically that's where the teams best hitter is.

 

In the old days they always did

 

But not any more after analysis has shown that's not optimal

 

Despite that, I *suspect* some players still see it as a prestigious thing. Bautista, despite being smart, could be one of those guys.

[glory]

 

I guess 1B is no longer a strict platoon..

 

It never was a strict platoon. Stevie Wonder could have seen Gibbons starting Colabello everyday. Shapiro/Atkins didn't. It is what it is.

[G-Snarls]

Where did Maddon hit Longoria? 2nd??

[burlingtonbandit]

You know who would have been a good choice as leadoff hitter?

 

John Jaso

 

Instead we have Smoak for $3.9 Million

[intentional wok]

Where did Maddon hit Longoria? 2nd??

 

Pretty sure Longo was in the third or fourth spot pretty consistently. Cash has him glued to hitting third. I think Maddon's been using Bryant and Rizzo in 3/4 as well, depending.

[bendera3]

Batting third in the lineup is a status thing too. Typically that's where the teams best hitter is.

 

In the old days (your thinking) the fastest guy hit first no matter how often they got on base. The best lineup would be going OBP from top to bottom.

[KinofChaos]

Pillar leading off and colabello hitting against a righty..ugh.

[havok24]

In the old days (your thinking) the fastest guy hit first no matter how often they got on base. The best lineup would be going OBP from top to bottom.

 

Baseball 101: Speedy black guy bats leadoff. If you don't have one of those, just bat the gritty white guy with high socks first.

[Cyborg]

Baseball 101: Speedy black guy bats leadoff. If you don't have one of those, just bat the gritty white guy with high socks first.

But the gritty white guy with high socks is supposed to bat 2nd! Who am I supposed to put there then!!??!

[intentional wok]

But the gritty white guy with high socks is supposed to bat 2nd! Who am I supposed to put there then!!??!

 

Lefty with good bat control who can go the other way.

[G-Snarls]

#Stereotypes

[G-Snarls]

#4 hitter has to be a big guy who strikes out a lot but hits for power

[G-Snarls]

So:

 

1. Billy Hamilton

2. Hunter Pence or Dustin Pedroia

3. Joey Votto

4. Yoenis Cespedes

 

Ideal top 4 by sterotype

[Angrioter]

Baseball 101: Speedy black guy bats leadoff. If you don't have one of those, just bat the gritty white guy with high socks first.

 

Willie Canate is alive

[King]

So:

 

1. Billy Hamilton

2. Hunter Pence or Dustin Pedroia

3. Joey Votto

4. Yoenis Cespedes

 

Ideal top 4 by sterotype

 

People consider this black now

 

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/2ng9NMaNyjaYSpu99FJ4Pg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztpbD1wbGFuZTtxPTc1O3c9NjAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en/person/Ysports/billy-hamilton-baseball-headshot-photo.jpg

[o2cui2i]

People consider this black now

 

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/2ng9NMaNyjaYSpu99FJ4Pg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztpbD1wbGFuZTtxPTc1O3c9NjAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en/person/Ysports/billy-hamilton-baseball-headshot-photo.jpg

 

looks like he's wearing his dad's hat? didn't they have one that fit his head?

[burlingtonbandit]

Pillar will get hot soon, his babip is too low even with the popups. If he gets it back to a .315 OBP then this leadoff discussion is pretty inconsequential (our leadoff spot put up a .320 last year cumulatively), *unless* Saunders is going to be at .360 all year. Then Gibbons will probably change it anyway.

 

Pillar's approach has definitely changed this year. Huge changes in swstr%, O-Swing %, contact %. I don't know if it's made him better or worse though. It's not like his selectivity is leading to walks.

 

His swing looked really good in ST but lately it looks bad again. He's getting under the ball popping it up.

[BigCecil]

His swing looked really good in ST but lately it looks bad again. He's getting under the ball popping it up.

 

I don't think his swing has ever looked really good. He is a hacker who takes all kinds of different swings depending on where the ball he is chasing is. His 2015 93 wRC+ is probably his ceiling.

[polar bear]

At this point, they are both dead to me. Put EE at first and get someone better in the line up.

 

That's what I've been thinking,or maybe Bautista at first,and bring up an outfielder from Buffalo.

[Spanky99]

Didn't someone post the link for that yesterday? Not that anyone other than you cares.

 

He's simply trolling like he did with all of his sexual hard on and masturbation ******** as before, mate.

[Spanky99]

If the Jays asked Bautista to lead off, I'm pretty sure he'd gladly do it. He understands analytics and certainly knows he'll get more AB's.

[Spanky99]

So Blair just said Pillar played for like a month with a broken hand. Mostly August. Looking at splits he did have .603 OPS in Aug. Says Gibbons is giving him a shot at leadoff because he meets challenges but Gibby already said he's thinking about Saunders or Goins at leadoff vs. RHP.

 

I was just going to post this, I near pissed myself when he mentioned Goins. The broken hand thing was posted earlier, we had zero depth last year, lol.

[burlingtonbandit]

So Blair just said Pillar played for like a month with a broken hand. Mostly August. Looking at splits he did have .603 OPS in Aug. Says Gibbons is giving him a shot at leadoff because he meets challenges but Gibby already said he's thinking about Saunders or Goins at leadoff vs. RHP.

 

If Goins leads off pitchforks will be out. He's an even worse choice than Pillar

[Trouba95]

Jonah Keri explaining BABIP on BJC. Lol can only imagine what Zauny is thinking...

[Spanky99]

Wow... Goins BABIP is at .450?!

[Daniel Labude]

Lets Go Blue Jays!!!!!!!!!!

[burlingtonbandit]

Wow... Goins BABIP is at .450?!

 

Ugly ass walk and strikeout rate too.

 

IF you want to puke take a look at the O-Zone Swing %

[Slade]

Jonah Keri explaining BABIP on BJC. Lol can only imagine what Zauny is thinking...

 

Probably thinking the same thing Gossage thinks, nerds are ruining baseball. GET OFF MY LAWN!!!