General 2016 Blue Jays discussion thread

[Krylian]

"but between his height and the contact on the heater, I think he's a closer or future setup man."

 

Ya. I re-read and confirmed that I'm stupid and can't read.

[Krylian]

wtf is wrong with Saunders right now? Personal problems?

 

He's not as good as his first half would indicate?

[Angrioter]

Ya. I re-read and confirmed that I'm stupid and can't read.

 

Si, lo sabemos..... sabemos que eres un estúpido.

[Krylian]

Si, lo sabemos..... sabemos que eres un estúpido.

 

I can't even read English. What am I supposed to do with Mexican?

[AdamLindsMom]

Man, I just saw Jose Bautista's numbers on the season. Yuck. Why isn't he getting more flack? He's been awful this year and it's already August. I know he's been hurt, but damn.

 

Enters spring training with his chest puffed out, causes a distraction for no reason by saying he wants 5/150 and that he's not budging from that number, bashes ownership, talks about how he's so great, and how he'll defy aging, etc, etc. Since then, he's played like ass offensively and defensively, gotten hurt, and became a meme for the rest of his career by being punched in the face.

 

I wish he had a 5 WAR season this year and then rode off into the sunset, but he almost had this coming by the way he acted in Feb/March.

 

Is there anything in his offensive numbers that really stands out? Scanning through his fangraphs page everything other than his k rate being up a hair seems pretty similar to last year.

[bones10]

The Rays may very well give us a run for our money in this series with the way our bats are performing recently.

[admin]

The Rays may very well give us a run for our money in this series with the way our bats are performing recently.

 

Yep, they have some decent pitching too.

[ChrisS]

The Rays may very well give us a run for our money in this series with the way our bats are performing recently.

Odorizzi hasnt given up a run in his last 3 starts (20.2 IP)

We need to win at least 2/3, I hope the bats are going to return tonight.

[ChrisS]

Is there anything in his offensive numbers that really stands out? Scanning through his fangraphs page everything other than his k rate being up a hair seems pretty similar to last year.

 

All his offensive metrics are down. He better turn this around in the next 51 games. Whats the value of a 36 y/o DH with a 1.0 WAR and 113 WRC+

[worldchamps2016]

All his offensive metrics are down. He better turn this around in the next 51 games. Whats the value of a 36 y/o DH with a 1.0 WAR and 113 WRC+

 

One year 8.5M and not worth a qualifying offer.

[fatcowxlive]

I just saw Ken Ried point something cool out, since the Rays swept us we've been 45-26, which is a major league best record.

[admin]

I just saw Ken Ried point something cool out, since the Rays swept us we've been 45-26, which is a major league best record.

 

And as Tabler said, Rays have the worst record since.

[G-Snarls]

A's beat the O's in the late game.

 

Yes yes

 

Back tied for 1st place baby!!!

[fatcowxlive]

I hope Today's lineup can look like:

 

Travis

Donaldson

Bautista

Edwin

Tulo

Saunders

Martin

Smoak

Upton

 

Donaldson should be a cornerstone in that 2 hole, I don't like Bautista being up there, he's been hitting the ball hard but Donaldson's been getting on base more

[Governator]

I hope Today's lineup can look like:

 

Travis

Donaldson

Bautista

Edwin

Tulo

Saunders

Martin

Smoak

Upton

 

Donaldson should be a cornerstone in that 2 hole, I don't like Bautista being up there, he's been hitting the ball hard but Donaldson's been getting on base more

 

 

I'd probably prefer EE @ 1B and get Barney in the game over Smoak vs Lefties, whether that means Saunders/Bautista or even Barney DHing is fine with me. Use Smoak off the bench vs RH reliever if needed.

[fatcowxlive]

I'd probably prefer EE @ 1B and get Barney in the game over Smoak vs Lefties, whether that means Saunders/Bautista or even Barney DHing is fine with me. Use Smoak off the bench vs RH reliever if needed.

 

Sure good point. My dream lineup would have been pillar in the 8 hole and Upton in OF, but for now can they get the top 5 right?

[burlingtonbandit]

Sure good point. My dream lineup would have been pillar in the 8 hole and Upton in OF, but for now can they get the top 5 right?

 

Any dream lineup should not have Upton in it lol.

[RealAccountant]

Agreed we need to go back to Donaldson in the 2 hole

[Governator]

Any dream lineup should not have Upton in it lol.

 

We can only work with what we got though and vs LHP he'd still be the better choice over Smoak, Barney or Ceciliani in the line up and a better choice over Bautista or Saunders in the OF.

[puphood]

Another lefty up today for the O's. please put EE in on first. My thoughts on Batista is he should be DHing as I don't see his throwing in from RF as being nearly as strong as last year besides generally below average fielding.......Smoak to the bench.......

[fatcowxlive]

Any dream lineup should not have Upton in it lol.

 

My dream lineup with what we have duh

[Governator]

Another lefty up today for the O's. please put EE in on first. My thoughts on Batista is he should be DHing as I don't see his throwing in from RF as being nearly as strong as last year besides generally below average fielding.......Smoak to the bench.......

 

 

We're playing the Rays.

[Jonn]

Any dream lineup should not have Upton in it lol.

 

Defense is a thing. I will take the defense when there isnt a significant upgrade with the bat.

[RealAccountant]

Really Bautista should go hit 4th. We need Travis Donaldson and Edwin bunched together

[RealAccountant]

This whole 6 man rotation is dumb as f*** too all to save Sanchez two starts. Just put Liriano as a pen lefty and have him spot start for Sanchez whenever possible

 

So dumb

[burlingtonbandit]

We can only work with what we got though and vs LHP he'd still be the better choice over Smoak, Barney or Ceciliani in the line up and a better choice over Bautista or Saunders in the OF.

 

Yeah vs Lefties but he shouldn't start vs Righties. He's been just god awful so far. Negative 0.5 WAR in a couple weeks.

[Governator]

Yeah vs Lefties but he shouldn't start vs Righties. He's been just god awful so far. Negative 0.5 WAR in a couple weeks.

 

Well we were discussing about today's ideal line up which is against a lefty, otherwise yea I don't think he should be in the line up vs RHP at all right now.

[puphood]

We're playing the Rays.

I know Snell is a Lefty ....

[Angrioter]

Sportsnet Stats ‏

#BlueJays Through 114 Games:

 

2015 - 62-52, 154 HR & 3.80 ERA

2016 - 64-50, 160 HR & 3.79 ERA

[puphood]

I think everyone can agree that Smoak sits out.

For me its not ideal but Upton or Barnes in the field and Batista DH......