Report: Jose Reyes arrested for domestic abuse

[o2cui2i]

Indecent exposure could mean anything.

 

a lot of times it means stopping to pee in a place where a cop sees you. had friends who used to pick those up on the way home from drinking when I was in my 20s. They just stop and piss anywhere they felt like and suddenly cops showed up. but that was the least of the crimes these guys where getting into trouble for. nice guys when we were younger, but they turned into thugs and drug dealers.... all either dead or doing hard time now.

[Maahfaace]

a lot of times it means stopping to pee in a place where a cop sees you. had friends who used to pick those up on the way home from drinking when I was in my 20s. They just stop and piss anywhere they felt like and suddenly cops showed up. but that was the least of the crimes these guys where getting into trouble for. nice guys when we were younger, but they turned into thugs and drug dealers.... all either dead or doing hard time now.

 

over exaggerate for dramatic effect?

[o2cui2i]

over exaggerate for dramatic effect?

 

unfortunately not. some of the guys I use to hang with where pretty messed upped. for sure twice my one buddy got fined for pissing in public (publicly exposing himself) and the cop started by saying "Harper, of course it's you." Yes we were drunk and no pissing on a car is not a good idea, especially when it's just stopped at a red light. lol

 

3 of the guys i used to party with are still in jail and 2 died in their late 20s. Just some guys who were fun to party with. I had non nut job friends too... but these guys were a blast to get drunk with.

[King]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25581563

 

Rockies shortstop Jose Reyes is currently on paid leave as Major League Baseball reviews the information surrounding his offseason domestic violence arrest. The charges have been dropped, as Reyes' wife would not cooperate with police. And now there's a chance Reyes can still face a suspension under the MLB domestic violence policy, and it sounds like it'll be a big one.

According to Jon Heyman of MLB Network, Reyes' suspension will be at least 60 games and that 80 games "may be a fair ballpark estimate," per his sources. It sounds possible that the suspension could even be longer than that.

 

Let's keep in mind here that reports surfaced that Reyes' wife, Katherine, had visible injuries to several areas of her body, including her neck.

 

Heyman reports the suspension ruling will come down "soon."

 

Reyes, 32, is making $22 million this season, but he would forfeit his salary for the chunk of games he's suspended, so a half season suspension would cost him $11 million. He's also owed $22 million next season.

 

Meanwhile, rookie shortstop Trevor Story is hitting .272/.338/.624 with 11 homers and 24 RBI through 31 games for the Rockies.

 

Basically, while the suspension would give the Rockies some salary relief, he's an expensive problem next season unless he's handed a two-year suspension.

[Spanky99]

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S'up?

[BigCecil]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25581563

 

Rockies shortstop Jose Reyes is currently on paid leave as Major League Baseball reviews the information surrounding his offseason domestic violence arrest. The charges have been dropped, as Reyes' wife would not cooperate with police. And now there's a chance Reyes can still face a suspension under the MLB domestic violence policy, and it sounds like it'll be a big one.

According to Jon Heyman of MLB Network, Reyes' suspension will be at least 60 games and that 80 games "may be a fair ballpark estimate," per his sources. It sounds possible that the suspension could even be longer than that.

 

Let's keep in mind here that reports surfaced that Reyes' wife, Katherine, had visible injuries to several areas of her body, including her neck.

 

Heyman reports the suspension ruling will come down "soon."

 

Reyes, 32, is making $22 million this season, but he would forfeit his salary for the chunk of games he's suspended, so a half season suspension would cost him $11 million. He's also owed $22 million next season.

 

Meanwhile, rookie shortstop Trevor Story is hitting .272/.338/.624 with 11 homers and 24 RBI through 31 games for the Rockies.

 

Basically, while the suspension would give the Rockies some salary relief, he's an expensive problem next season unless he's handed a two-year suspension.

 

Not surprised. I didn't think MLB would put much weight on her not cooperating at this point. That was predictable. Its going to be all about the witnesses and evidence taken at the time of incident.

[Maahfaace]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25581563

 

Rockies shortstop Jose Reyes is currently on paid leave as Major League Baseball reviews the information surrounding his offseason domestic violence arrest. The charges have been dropped, as Reyes' wife would not cooperate with police. And now there's a chance Reyes can still face a suspension under the MLB domestic violence policy, and it sounds like it'll be a big one.

According to Jon Heyman of MLB Network, Reyes' suspension will be at least 60 games and that 80 games "may be a fair ballpark estimate," per his sources. It sounds possible that the suspension could even be longer than that.

 

Let's keep in mind here that reports surfaced that Reyes' wife, Katherine, had visible injuries to several areas of her body, including her neck.

 

Heyman reports the suspension ruling will come down "soon."

 

Reyes, 32, is making $22 million this season, but he would forfeit his salary for the chunk of games he's suspended, so a half season suspension would cost him $11 million. He's also owed $22 million next season.

 

Meanwhile, rookie shortstop Trevor Story is hitting .272/.338/.624 with 11 homers and 24 RBI through 31 games for the Rockies.

 

Basically, while the suspension would give the Rockies some salary relief, he's an expensive problem next season unless he's handed a two-year suspension.

 

This is probably the end of his career. I'm guessing the Rockies attempt a buyout as really no good could come from him playing for them again.

[JaysAllMighty]

In my opinion there shouldn't be any penalty until someone is found guilty of any allegations made against them. I have seen many domestic situations where the woman actually lied about the facts to get the husband/boyfriend in trouble. Jose Reyes needs to fight this in court.

[HERPDERP]

In my opinion there shouldn't be any penalty until someone is found guilty of any allegations made against them. I have seen many domestic situations where the woman actually lied about the facts to get the husband/boyfriend in trouble. Jose Reyes needs to fight this in court.

 

careful, the last time I pointed that out here I got SJW'd

[JaysAllMighty]

careful, the last time I pointed that out here I got SJW'd

 

yep, a lot of them idiots here.

[BigCecil]

In my opinion there shouldn't be any penalty until someone is found guilty of any allegations made against them. I have seen many domestic situations where the woman actually lied about the facts to get the husband/boyfriend in trouble. Jose Reyes needs to fight this in court.

 

MLB is a business with a brand to protect. Its not a court of law. They are two separate entities with differing objectives. If there are any corroborating witnesses and other evidence to his wife's initial account then MLB will act to protect their business and their standing within the public and fanbases. He can appeal the suspension, based on his perception of the facts.

 

The value of the brand they are protecting with this suspension is why a guy like Reyes can make $20mm a year.

[JaysAllMighty]

The union that represents Reyes negotiated a policy that exists for exactly this purpose... there is nothing to fight. You guys are missing the relevant points in favour of your ideologies on a different matter. It isn't about justice, it's public relations.

 

The fact that the union agreed to that kind of policy doesn't mean that an individual can not fight this to a higher court that could reverse that policy.

[Dick_Pole]

Something that has been brought up before in the Chapman and A-Rod ordeals is that the Rockies have a very obvious conflict of interest in all of this. This essentially allows them out of 25% of a contract that ended up being a very bad move for them. If he's found guilty, perhaps there's a way for them to get out of the entire contract? Policy aside, it's not a good thing when owners have an incentive to turn their backs on their own players in these types of situations.

[BigCecil]

The fact that the union agreed to that kind of policy doesn't mean that an individual can not fight this to a higher court that could reverse that policy.

Talk about leading with your chin. Reye's bargaining agent agreed to this policy. The Union also negotiated many benefits in their CBA that Reyes has enjoyed. Like a guaranteed contract. The Rockies would love to use this PR black eye to cancel his deal. But they can't. He has an appeal process right which he will exercise likely. He wouldn't have a prayer in court. Employers and Unions negotiate the terms of employment.

[JaysAllMighty]

Talk about leading with your chin

 

Sorry, I didn't know you were an expert on these manners..... LOL

[BigCecil]

Sorry, I didn't know you were an expert on these manners..... LOL

 

No problem son. Anytime you need help.

[Grant77]

This is probably the end of his career. I'm guessing the Rockies attempt a buyout as really no good could come from him playing for them again.

 

That would be very disappointing. We can't even be sure that he did anything wrong and MLB won't know either because his wife isn't cooperating.

 

Basically we have the only two witnesses saying that nothing happened and a bunch of reactionary idiots forcing MLB's hand. I support punishment when there is reasonable grounds to do so, but since there clearly isn't in this case, I feel bad for Jose Reyes and his wife.

[AdamGreenwood]

The logic makes no sense.

 

The victim is assaulted. So to make things better, MLB takes millions of dollars away from their family. Gee, wonder why wives won't cooperate.

Instead, no suspension, but a percentage of the player's salary is withheld from the player, for an escape fund for the spouse, if she chooses to leave him.

[Laika]

That would be very disappointing. We can't even be sure that he did anything wrong and MLB won't know either because his wife isn't cooperating.

 

Basically we have the only two witnesses saying that nothing happened and a bunch of reactionary idiots forcing MLB's hand. I support punishment when there is reasonable grounds to do so, but since there clearly isn't in this case, I feel bad for Jose Reyes and his wife.

 

Says Grant's independent investigation or just the news stories you've read?

 

For all you know, the investigation has turned up some level of probable evidence that he choked her with an extension cord.

[Laika]

The logic makes no sense.

 

The victim is assaulted. So to make things better, MLB takes millions of dollars away from their family. Gee, wonder why wives won't cooperate.

Instead, no suspension, but a percentage of the player's salary is withheld from the player, for an escape fund for the spouse, if she chooses to leave him.

 

Then you're just incentivizing crying wolf for an escape fund divorce. It's such a nebulous policy blackhole. I'm not saying there's no light at the other side, and absolutely no correct policy, it's just hard to imagine there being a right answer.

 

I do think teams shouldn't get to simply keep 100% of the salary saved. If it's largely a PR policy then make the teams donate the majority of the salary to DV foundations...

[Grant77]

Says Grant's independent investigation or just the news stories you've read?

 

For all you know, the investigation has turned up some level of probable evidence that he choked her with an extension cord.

 

Common sense. The alleged victim is claiming that a crime did not occur and it reasonable to assume that she isn't being threatened or blackmailed into making that claim.

 

It's really ironic that this whole policy is about respecting the rights of women and MLB is openly ignoring her rights and wishes in this witch hunt.

[KingKat]

it reasonable to assume that she isn't being threatened

 

No it's not actually. There's enough probability that you can't reasonably assume either way.

[Abomination]

I think the biggest issue with all of this is suspending Reyes until the court case and investigations are over, then making a ruling. Either decide faster, or let him play until you decide.

[Grant77]

No it's not actually. There's enough probability that you can't reasonably assume either way.

 

Use Occam's razor. There was an incident, there may or may not have been physical contact. She got upset and called the police. She then thought it over and requested that the charges be dropped for her own personal reasons.

 

That seems a lot more reasonable that some complex web of threats and blackmail. It's pretty much a conspiracy theory.

[Grant77]

I think the biggest issue with all of this is suspending Reyes until the court case and investigations are over, then making a ruling. Either decide faster, or let him play until you decide.

 

There is no court case because there was no crime from a legal perspective.This is strictly about MLB's image.

[Abomination]

There is no court case because there was no crime from a legal perspective.This is strictly about MLB's image.

 

Yeah, I meant the legal investigations (which were dropped) and MLB's investigations. I worded that poorly.

[Grant77]

One thing I'm not clear on is when the suspension starts. If he gets a 60 game suspension, can he start playing in June?

[KingKat]

Use Occam's razor. There was an incident, there may or may not have been physical contact. She got upset and called the police. She then thought it over and requested that the charges be dropped for her own personal reasons.

 

That seems a lot more reasonable that some complex web of threats and blackmail. It's pretty much a conspiracy theory.

 

No it really isn't. Victims of domestic abuse lie to protect their assaulter all the time and not necessarily because there's "a complex web". For confirmation of such just talk to basically any social worker.

[Spanky99]

One thing I'm not clear on is when the suspension starts. If he gets a 60 game suspension, can he start playing in June?

 

likely

[burlingtonbandit]

Common sense. The alleged victim is claiming that a crime did not occur and it reasonable to assume that she isn't being threatened or blackmailed into making that claim.

 

It's really ironic that this whole policy is about respecting the rights of women and MLB is openly ignoring her rights and wishes in this witch hunt.

 

If she got assaulted by him but doesn't want to say anything about it then Reyes should still deserved to be punished. Just because someone doesn't prosecute you in the court of law doesn't mean he didn't assault the victim.

 

Ray Rice's fiancee didn't want to press charges and look at how that situation turned out.