Blue Jays GM Candidates [Tinnish? Peter Brand?]

[Krylian]

Gabe Kapler is vying for the LA field manager position and would also be on the radar for our GM spot? Talk about hands in many pies.

 

I love pie.

[GD]

Gabe Kapler is vying for the LA field manager position and would also be on the radar for our GM spot? Talk about hands in many pies.

 

Actually wouldn't mind him as our field manager tbh

[saskjayfan]

I'll give AA props for the Wells trade and the JD trade. But let's be real: the Napoli, Marlins and Mets trades were abysmal. In the wake of Price's playoff meltdown and his probable exit in free agency, that trade isn't looking so hot either. More often than not, AA was the sucker that allowed the rest of the league to swindle him out of all our prospects.

 

seriously f*** off...Devon Travis, Tulo, Stroman, Estrada, Osuna....get a new f***ing login you twit

[saskjayfan]

Doesn't justify re-signing him.

 

If you don't think generating revenue isn't a criteria for being re-signed you're a fool.

[art_vandelay275]

seriously f*** off...Devon Travis, Tulo, Stroman, Estrada, Osuna....get a new f***ing login you twit

 

stroman? osuna?

[GD]

gestapo....

 

Gustapo

[THANOS]

seriously f*** off...Devon Travis, Tulo, Stroman, Estrada, Osuna....get a new f***ing login you twit

 

This.

 

If you don't think generating revenue isn't a criteria for being re-signed you're a fool.

 

Emphatically yes, which is how it should be presented to Rogers.

 

stroman? osuna?

 

I think he grouped in drafting and development into his list of great AA moves.

 

Off-topic, but I don't think Shapiro would draft Stroman since analytics suggest a pitcher his size won't last as a starter.

[Rusty_Savage]

seriously f*** off...Devon Travis, Tulo, Stroman, Estrada, Osuna....get a new f***ing login you twit

 

If he gets a login and then a password, he's set

[BigCecil]

Gustapo

 

ok. I'm obviously missing something.

 

nevermind...just googled it. lol. Sorry.

[metafour]

Off-topic, but I don't think Shapiro would draft Stroman since analytics suggest a pitcher his size won't last as a starter.

 

Danny Salazar is 6-feet, 185 pounds. He's actually significantly less muscular than Stroman, which would make him an even bigger threat to "wear down".

 

And its not "analytics" which suggest that smaller pitchers won't last as starters. That is purely traditional "scouting". Analytics tell you that if a guy puts up the required metrics, it doesn't matter if he's 5'7 or 6'7. It is traditional scouting which is enamored with "tall, strong pitchers", or "guys that look like athletes", etc.

[THANOS]

Danny Salazar is 6-feet, 185 pounds. He's actually significantly less muscular than Stroman, which would make him an even bigger threat to "wear down".

 

And its not "analytics" which suggest that smaller pitchers won't last as starters. That is purely traditional "scouting". Analytics tell you that if a guy puts up the required metrics, it doesn't matter if he's 5'7 or 6'7. It is traditional scouting which is enamored with "tall, strong pitchers", or "guys that look like athletes", etc.

 

Fair point, well said. I didn't know Salazar was that short. That said, Stro is 5'8 so that's a difference of 4 inches plus whatever advantage is gained by that larger frame.

Edited October 30, 2015 by THANOS

[reedjohnsonfan]

Our next GM:

 

http://www.macleans.ca/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/jp.jpg

 

That would be interesting. Ricciardi and Gibbons at the helm once again...

[reedjohnsonfan]

Ben Cherington is apparently teaching at a university or something this year, but you wonder if he's on the list of potential interviewees?

[Rusty_Savage]

Ben Cherington is apparently teaching at a university or something this year, but you wonder if he's on the list of potential interviewees?

 

I doubt it. HD wanted no part of Dombrowski

[Orgfiller]

Off-topic, but I don't think Shapiro would draft Stroman since analytics suggest a pitcher his size won't last as a starter.

 

I'm pretty sure they suggest that height is irrelevant when evaluating a pitcher. There is no evidence to suggest that shorter pitchers perform worse, or have worse stamina (the data would probably be skewed anyways since shorter pitchers are typically not given the same opportunities due to this misconception). This is purely a scouting narrative.

[43211234]

id say promote zaunie to the roll. get the team on the right track making players play the right way! the team is just not mentally tough and don't care about winning.

 

 

before giving a player his contract i'd force him to pass a bunting test !

[Dr Negative]

id say promote zaunie to the roll. get the team on the right track making players play the right way! the team is just not mentally tough and don't care about winning.

 

 

before giving a player his contract i'd force him to pass a bunting test !

 

It's a better idea than bringing back JP Ricciardi.

[Boxcar]

I'd like Manny Acta but I'm really happy as long as they replace Gibbons with someone who is aware of how good Liam Hendriks is.

[THANOS]

I'd like Manny Acta but I'm really happy as long as they replace Gibbons with someone who is aware of how good Liam Hendriks is.

 

The best thing is that Shapiro will know, and if Sanchez is kept, he'll have his handpicked coaches try to change him into a strikeout pitcher. They'll have their work cut out for them though.

[glory]

Off-topic, but I don't think Shapiro would draft Stroman since analytics suggest a pitcher his size won't last as a starter.

 

Analytics would favor Stroman, not hurt him.

 

Shapiro wouldn't value Sanchez, for example. Stroman? He absolutely would.

[THANOS]

Analytics would favor Stroman, not hurt him.

 

Shapiro wouldn't value Sanchez, for example. Stroman? He absolutely would.

 

Do you think he'll try and turn him back into the strikeout pitcher he was in the minors?

 

http://i.snag.gy/M1o1z.jpg

 

Averaging over 10 K/9 until he was called up. Sounds like he was given poor advice?

[baubau]

Do you think he'll try and turn him back into the strikeout pitcher he was in the minors?

 

http://i.snag.gy/M1o1z.jpg

 

Averaging over 10 K/9 until he was called up. Sounds like he was given poor advice?

 

I remember hearing a interview after he came back from Pete Walker saying how encouraged they were with the groundballs Stroman was getting and its not all about strikeouts. I don't know know if its a philosophical thing where they feel GB pitchers are better in the RC.

 

As far as his K/9, meh not to concerned from a 27 IP sample size. He still has his great mix of pitches so the K's will come soon again me thinks.

[GD]

He's posted 157.2 innings of 7.36/1.94/0.51. I think we can expect a couple more dingers, a touch more walks, and a maybe a bit less strikeouts, but honestly, his career numbers aren't that far off imo. Maybe 7/2.2/0.7 or something?

 

#LightskinMidgetDoc

[Krylian]

Do you think he'll try and turn him back into the strikeout pitcher he was in the minors?

 

http://i.snag.gy/M1o1z.jpg

 

Averaging over 10 K/9 until he was called up. Sounds like he was given poor advice?

 

He gave up the 4-steamer and is only throwing the 2-seamer... Hence less K's and more weak contact.

[CJ-Freeway]

I'd like Manny Acta but I'm really happy as long as they replace Gibbons with someone who is aware of how good Liam Hendriks is.

 

What about Matt Williams? Haven't been following the NL for a while though, so I'm not sure if he's any good.

[Krylian]

Bring back Cito.

[THANOS]

He's posted 157.2 innings of 7.36/1.94/0.51. I think we can expect a couple more dingers, a touch more walks, and a maybe a bit less strikeouts, but honestly, his career numbers aren't that far off imo. Maybe 7/2.2/0.7 or something?

 

#LightskinMidgetDoc

 

What about Matt Williams? Haven't been following the NL for a while though, so I'm not sure if he's any good.

 

Not a fan of that decision. Why can't he do both? Guys like Carrasco and Kluber have good groundball rates and high K rates.

[A0FF]

I'd hire Kelly Gruber.

[Orgfiller]

What about Matt Williams? Haven't been following the NL for a while though, so I'm not sure if he's any good.

 

Matt Williams is awful, and FWIW, didn't seem at all respected by his own players.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Not a fan of that decision. Why can't he do both? Guys like Carrasco and Kluber have good groundball rates and high K rates.

 

Are also Cy Young contenders next season lol. Stroman is great but not on that level.