Alex Anthopoulos press conference

[Slugger]

Were you under a rock man?

 

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Ah, yes. Of course I was aware of it, i just didn't know you guys abbreviated it.

[burlingtonbandit]

The same could of been said about Ryan Goins 6 months ago. He sucks at pitch recognition. Then all of a sudden he hits puts up a 10% walk rate and becomes a decent player.

 

My god... if you could teach all the Ryan Goins of the world to hit .250 with a 10% walk rate you'd get places.

 

The great questions of our time

 

Why did Ryan Goins take so many walks?? Was it character?? Was it random chance?? Can he repeat it?? My god can other light hitting dudes find the same magic.

 

Does Goins actually have better pitch recognition then Arencibia and Lawrie?? Or was he given better advice?? Or did he just listen cuz he was afraid Donaldson and Bautista would yell at him if he swung at bad pitches?

 

Goins went back to being s***** hitter after his hot streak. In the posteason his BB rate was 2.5% and K rate 30%. September he had a 8.9% BB rate which is pretty good but also struck out 22.3% of the time so it seems like the extra walks will come at the expense of more strikeouts.

 

He's a fine backup middle infielder but lets not give him a starting role please...

[KingKat]

Goins went back to being s***** hitter after his hot streak. In the posteason his BB rate was 2.5% and K rate 30%. September he had a 8.9% BB rate which is pretty good but also struck out 22.3% of the time so it seems like the extra walks will come at the expense of more strikeouts.

 

He's a fine backup middle infielder but lets not give him a starting role please...

 

Though I agree with you that wasn't the point being made at all.

[204Jays]

What are the odds AA doesnt get resigned? Tbh, Im surprised nothing has been announced yet.

[Krylian]

What are the odds AA doesnt get resigned? Tbh, Im surprised nothing has been announced yet.

 

5% that he doesn't return.

[BigCecil]

Goins went back to being s***** hitter after his hot streak. In the posteason his BB rate was 2.5% and K rate 30%. September he had a 8.9% BB rate which is pretty good but also struck out 22.3% of the time so it seems like the extra walks will come at the expense of more strikeouts.

 

He had one good offensive game in the playoffs out of 11.

 

Gibbons said that on his failed sac bunt attempt in the KC series Gm 6 he told Goins to take that 1st pitch, as he was following back to back BBs. Sac bunting is dumb, but if you are going to have anyone do it...its Goins.

 

I didn't like the take, but was glad Goins didn't do it on his own. When you hit like Goins, you have to be able to get one down. He isn't a great bunter and it wasn't smart to put him in an 0-1 hole.

[taximan89]

Word out now (probably just media speculation) is that there is a disagreement on the amount of autonomy AA would be granted if he were to return. A deal has supposedly been tabled which is lengthy and pays well, but the breaker is to be if AA can accept being subordinate to Shapiro as to who has the final say on deals . Shi Davidi's article is the source of this otherwise baseless speculation, but you'd think something would have arisen by now, unless they plan a conference for Monday to officially introduce Shapiro and announce the AA extension

[RealAccountant]

f*** off Rogers and Shapiro if AA isn't back

[art_vandelay275]

if AA can accept being subordinate to Shapiro as to who has the final say on deals

 

I've gotta think even with Beeston, he had the final say on deals. In fact there was some interview where Beeston said he has nixed some deals that AA had brought to him in response to some question. I can accept that Shapiro is going to be more hands on than Beeston, maybe learning from what happened in Cleveland with Antonetti, espeically the Jimenez deal. But the reporting org structure, at least as it appears on paper, should be pretty similar...

 

I think/hope it's speculation but then I can't think of any other reasons why the deal isn't done already either

[burlingtonbandit]

He had one good offensive game in the playoffs out of 11.

 

Gibbons said that on his failed sac bunt attempt in the KC series Gm 6 he told Goins to take that 1st pitch, as he was following back to back BBs. Sac bunting is dumb, but if you are going to have anyone do it...its Goins.

 

I didn't like the take, but was glad Goins didn't do it on his own. When you hit like Goins, you have to be able to get one down. He isn't a great bunter and it wasn't smart to put him in an 0-1 hole.

 

A failed sac bunt doesn't have anything to do with his future outlook for next year so I'm not sure if you just wanted to s*** on Gibbons for the hell of it but that is what it looks like.

[BigCecil]

A failed sac bunt doesn't have anything to do with his future outlook for next year so I'm not sure if you just wanted to s*** on Gibbons for the hell of it but that is what it looks like.

 

lol....your comment is ironic given Kingkat's on your post. Yup...it doesn't...and I was just venting about that play. I just listened to Gibby.

 

I feel no need to "s*** on" Gibbons just now. He can make some bone headed calls, but we could do worse.

 

Goin's outlook is whats its always been...solid back up MIF. There is no real debate about that despite AA's comments.

[Krylian]

I've gotta think even with Beeston, he had the final say on deals. In fact there was some interview where Beeston said he has nixed some deals that AA had brought to him in response to some question. I can accept that Shapiro is going to be more hands on than Beeston, maybe learning from what happened in Cleveland with Antonetti, espeically the Jimenez deal. But the reporting org structure, at least as it appears on paper, should be pretty similar...

 

I think/hope it's speculation but then I can't think of any other reasons why the deal isn't done already either

 

Beeston nixed one deal. And it's widely believed to be that Santana fiasco where AA tried to restructure contacts to find cash.

[Spanky99]

Word out now (probably just media speculation) is that there is a disagreement on the amount of autonomy AA would be granted if he were to return. A deal has supposedly been tabled which is lengthy and pays well, but the breaker is to be if AA can accept being subordinate to Shapiro as to who has the final say on deals . Shi Davidi's article is the source of this otherwise baseless speculation, but you'd think something would have arisen by now, unless they plan a conference for Monday to officially introduce Shapiro and announce the AA extension

 

Do you have the Shi Davidi link? I can't seem to find it. Thanks in advance.

[Spanky99]

I've gotta think even with Beeston, he had the final say on deals. In fact there was some interview where Beeston said he has nixed some deals that AA had brought to him in response to some question. I can accept that Shapiro is going to be more hands on than Beeston, maybe learning from what happened in Cleveland with Antonetti, espeically the Jimenez deal. But the reporting org structure, at least as it appears on paper, should be pretty similar...

 

I think/hope it's speculation but then I can't think of any other reasons why the deal isn't done already either

 

I'm pretty certain all GM's have to get the okay, through their boss. My issues with Beeston is, I believe he has his fingerprints all over them deals in 12'.

[art_vandelay275]

I'm pretty certain all GM's have to get the okay, through their boss. My issues with Beeston is, I believe he has his fingerprints all over them deals in 12'.

 

it'd be kinda funny if the issue turns out to be with gibby coming back...

 

what sweet irony that'd be unlikely as it may be

[art_vandelay275]

Do you have the Shi Davidi link? I can't seem to find it. Thanks in advance.

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/clock-is-ticking-for-blue-jays-to-resolve-anthopoulos-situation/

[Spanky99]

Yeah, that's all fluff, there's no conflict of autonomy as fact, this article is just click bait. I'm surprised Shi let that piece hit his viewers. Terrible.

[art_vandelay275]

Major Shapiro trades as GM - I could see how if he and AA can make a great team if they can resolve whatever is there that's causing this delay

 

2002 Acquired: Coco Crisp, Luis Garcia FOR Chuck Finley

 

2002: Acquired: Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore, Brandon Philips, Lee Stevens FOR Bartolo Colon, Tim Drew

 

2002: Acquired: Travis Hafner, Aaron Myette FOR Einar Diaz, Ryan Drese

 

2006: Acquired: Asdrubal Cabrera FOR Eduardo Perez

 

2006: Acquired: Shin-Soo Choo, Shawn Nottingham FOR Ben Broussard

 

2008: Acquired: Michael Brantley, Zach Jackson, Rob Bryson FOR CC

 

2008: Acquired: Carlos Santana, Jonathan Meloan FOR Casey Blake

 

2009: Acquired Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald, Lou Marson, Jason Knapp FOR Cliff Lee

 

- Salazar, Bauer, Lindor, Kipnis are drafts (intl FA for Salazar)

- Kluber was trade with Padres but under Antonetti among others incl Gomes

[baloojayz]

He had one good offensive game in the playoffs out of 11.

 

Gibbons said that on his failed sac bunt attempt in the KC series Gm 6 he told Goins to take that 1st pitch, as he was following back to back BBs. Sac bunting is dumb, but if you are going to have anyone do it...its Goins.

 

I didn't like the take, but was glad Goins didn't do it on his own. When you hit like Goins, you have to be able to get one down. He isn't a great bunter and it wasn't smart to put him in an 0-1 hole.

 

Sac bunts make a lot of sense when you expect it out of essentially the Pitcher spot. No one is expecting JD to bunt. With Goins up 1st and 2nd none out, most of the time he grounds out (into a DP) or strikes out. Bunting was absolutely the right call. He should absolutely feel the need to become a better bunter. NL pitchers work pretty hard at it, he has no excuses.

[ColdPint]

AA leaving as per Davidi after rejecting contract offer.