Game 4 Starter

[Governator]

Price, that's why we got him and that's why he rested for 11 freaking days, to handle short rests.

[Spanky__99]

Price.

[BigCecil]

If we get to 4, Price.

 

That's unless there is something up with his arm we don't know about. People can disagree but I still think there may more to the 11 days rest, and not giving him 4-5 IP in live game action in Tampa, than we know currently. If they choose RA we will know there is something up.

 

If he close to 100%, I think you have to ignore the last 2 starts and look at his season and career body of work, over RA (as good as he has been 2nd half).

Edited October 11, 2015 by BigCecil

[EMK19]

As stated, I think the fact that Martin is catching Dickey has to be considered as well. A lot of potential for near passed balls wild pitches and such, and with Rangers playing the running game extremely well to put pressure on our defence thus far this series, Dickey may not be the best guy to throw out there right now. I'd also think that they'll be looking to steal on Dickey at every opportunity as well, and although Dickey does do a decent job for a Knuckleballer in holding on runners it will not be easy for Martin to throw them out catching a Knuckleball once they take off. Also, the extra stress of catching Dickey may affect Martin's offensive game as well, just like how it did during the regular season. IMO due to these reasons Price may be a safer bet even on 3 days rest. Perhaps one option could be one of Dickey/Price starts and the other comes off the pen to really mix things up.

 

But let's get to game 4 first...

[nextyear]

As stated, I think the fact that Martin is catching Dickey has to be considered as well. A lot of potential for near passed balls wild pitches and such, and with Rangers playing the running game extremely well to put pressure on our defence thus far this series, Dickey may not be the best guy to throw out there right now. I'd also think that they'll be looking to steal on Dickey at every opportunity as well, and although Dickey does do a decent job for a Knuckleballer in holding on runners it will not be easy for Martin to throw them out catching a Knuckleball once they take off. Also, the extra stress of catching Dickey may affect Martin's offensive game as well, just like how it did during the regular season. IMO due to these reasons Price may be a safer bet even on 3 days rest. Perhaps one option could be one of Dickey/Price starts and the other comes off the pen to really mix things up.

 

But let's get to game 4 first...

 

 

I am starting to like the Dickey/Price option, although I share the concerns of Martin catching Dickey, especially if Dickey has a nasty knuckleball working (which is what we would want) so nasty that Martin has a tough time catching it and the Rangers are swinging wildly trying to hit it. Truthfully, I actually prefer Dickey (in spite of what I said in a previous post) since it is a lot of fun watching the opposition swinging wildly through air as the ball sails under or over their bats.

 

If they do go with Dickey, and he has a good game, going say 7 - 8 innings, then the next question would be who would start game 5 - Price or Stroman . Personally I would prefer Stroman but it is a tossup.

[nextyear]

btw i am really looking forward to see a match up between Price and Kershaw on a World Series Game 1

 

As much fun as that would be, I am not going to hope for something and then be disappointed. My hope right now is that the Blue Jays will play a good game tonight and hopefully win.

[AdamGreenwood]

If we're looking to go further in the playoffs, I think we should go with Dickey. That way everyone keeps their schedule.

No one pitches on three-days-rest, and no one has an eight-day layoff, before pitching agian.

 

Plus, if the Rangers face Dickey, it will give Price an edge in Game 5.

 

The thing about Dickey is that he's either on or he's off, and it won't take very long to figure it out.

I say let him start Game 4, and if he's got control issues, put in Price, but otherwise, let him pitch. He's demonstrated he's up to the challenge.

[Professional Hitter]

If we're looking to go further in the playoffs, I think we should go with Dickey. That way everyone keeps their schedule.

No one pitches on three-days-rest, and no one has an eight-day layoff, before pitching agian.

 

Plus, if the Rangers face Dickey, it will give Price an edge in Game 5.

 

The thing about Dickey is that he's either on or he's off, and it won't take very long to figure it out.

I say let him start Game 4, and if he's got control issues, put in Price, but otherwise, let him pitch. He's demonstrated he's up to the challenge.

 

The issue is that we lost the luxury of planning to go deeper in the playoffs when we lost the first two games in our park and made the next 3 must win situations. If you're going to consider Price out of the pen in game 4 then why not just start him, at least we are living and dying with our best. I would consider Dickey from the BP if anyone gets into trouble early over the next 3 games. Typically knucklers can have a quicker turnaround time.

[Governator]

If we're looking to go further in the playoffs, I think we should go with Dickey. That way everyone keeps their schedule.

No one pitches on three-days-rest, and no one has an eight-day layoff, before pitching agian.

 

Plus, if the Rangers face Dickey, it will give Price an edge in Game 5.

 

The thing about Dickey is that he's either on or he's off, and it won't take very long to figure it out.

I say let him start Game 4, and if he's got control issues, put in Price, but otherwise, let him pitch. He's demonstrated he's up to the challenge.

 

I disagree, for the most part Dickey is rarely on or off, its more or less the walk walk homer that kills things in the 5th or 6th. He can settle down quite nicely even after a rough start, its sort of what you have to come to terms with regards to the pitch. Estrada or Hutchison on the hand need to locate early or they will be in for a rough 4 innings imo

[nextyear]

If we're looking to go further in the playoffs, I think we should go with Dickey. That way everyone keeps their schedule.

No one pitches on three-days-rest, and no one has an eight-day layoff, before pitching agian.

 

Plus, if the Rangers face Dickey, it will give Price an edge in Game 5.

 

The thing about Dickey is that he's either on or he's off, and it won't take very long to figure it out.

I say let him start Game 4, and if he's got control issues, put in Price, but otherwise, let him pitch. He's demonstrated he's up to the challenge.

 

 

It is such a tough decision. In Dickey's last 7 outings he has given up 0, 2, 2, 5, 1, 1, 3 runs - http://www.fangraphs.com/statsd.aspx?playerid=1245&position=P so there is a good chance that Dickey will have a good outing.

 

I have changed my mind, this is sports entertainment and I think I would get the most entertainment from watching Dickey throw his knuckleball.

Edited October 11, 2015 by nextyear

[Professional Hitter]

It is such a tough decision. In Dickey's last 7 outings he has given up 0, 2, 2, 5, 1, 1, 3 runs - http://www.fangraphs.com/statsd.aspx?playerid=1245&position=P so there is a good chance that Dickey will have a good outing.

 

I have changed my mind, this is sports entertainment and I think I would get the most entertain from watching Dickey throw his knuckleball.

 

If that's the case then your handle may come true...

[saskjayfan]

dickey in game 4 for me

[DickeyJohnsonWang]

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/toronto-blue-jays-david-price-reliever-bullpen-alds-texas-rangers-ken-rosenthal-101015

 

According to Rosenthal team is thinking of starting dickey and having price available in the pen

[Nafro]

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/toronto-blue-jays-david-price-reliever-bullpen-alds-texas-rangers-ken-rosenthal-101015

 

According to Rosenthal team is thinking of starting dickey and having price available in the pen

 

I like this thought process. If we are able to win tonight, start Dickey tomorrow. Have Price piggyback Dickey's start. If we are able to win that, Stroman had great success following Dickey last year.

[Jonn]

Dickey should have started tonight with Estrada available out of the pen. I would just start Price in game 4 if it exists. Dickey out of the pen tonight if absolutely necessary.

[Eddiek19]

Gibbons said Dickey will start Game 4 still if they win tinight.

[pickoff22]

Gibbons said Dickey will start Game 4 still if they win tinight.

 

WHEN they win tonight

[P2F]

Gibbons said Dickey will start Game 4 still if they win tinight.

 

Yup. Lol.

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/gibbons-dickey-to-start-potential-game-4-for-blue-jays/

[Cyborg]

So dumb.

[BigCecil]

Yup. Lol.

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/gibbons-dickey-to-start-potential-game-4-for-blue-jays/

 

Something is up with Price that we will hear about after the season. There is no other explanation to take an ace (who has had a couple sub par starts) and not give him the ball with our backs to the wall.

[P2F]

If there's a wrong decision to be made, Gibbons will make it happen.

[o2cui2i]

If there's a wrong decision to be made, Gibbons will make it happen.

 

yeah, because he made all those horrible decisions that won the Jays the division. Hate when that happens.

[P2F]

yeah, because he made all those horrible decisions that won the Jays the division. Hate when that happens.

 

Seriously?

[P2F]

It's pretty obvious that this team is so talented that they won the division in spite of Gibbons' atrocious in-game management.

 

He is not a good manager.

[nextyear]

Something is up with Price that we will hear about after the season. There is no other explanation to take an ace (who has had a couple sub par starts) and not give him the ball with our backs to the wall.

 

I don't think so, since both Price and Stroman are available tonight if needed:

 

 

 

I assume it will be the same if game 4 is needed. I have faith in Dickey, he has pitched well as of late.

[BigCecil]

I don't think so since both Price and Stroman are available tonight if needed:

 

 

 

I assume it will be the same if game 4 is needed.

 

Thanks but to me that doesn't explain no start in game 4 if there is one. Nobody ever said he couldn't pitch or he wouldn't have started Game 1 on 11 days rest. It has to be all hands on deck in pen especially since we lost Cecil.

[AdamGreenwood]

I know the season is on the line, but surely there must be a better alternative than to completely screw up Price and Stroman's next start.

What exactly would we do for Game 5 if Price and Stroman pitch tonight. Bring back Buehrle?

[nextyear]

Thanks but to me that doesn't explain no start in game 4 if there is one. Nobody ever said he couldn't pitch or he wouldn't have started Game 1 on 11 days rest. I'm not surprised its all hands on deck in pen.

 

I guess I am not really sure what you meant by "something up with Price" - I thought that maybe you meant muscle soreness or the like.

[BigCecil]

I guess I am not really sure what you meant by "something up with Price" - I thought that maybe you meant muscle soreness or the like.

 

I was. A lot of pitchers fight through arm fatigue...soreness etc and still pitch. He wouldn't necessarily be unavailable. They wont tell us, but 11 days rest and going to RA if there is a game 4 tends to indicate that to me. I don't know.

 

Mark B his last few starts fought through those issues.

[dineke]

How can you not go with price? WTF