Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Slade]

 

Isn't this to Amish kid who stole our championship.

[baseballsss]

Are the Bisons in the playyoffs? If not is Vlad goin back to AA?

[John_Havok]

Are the Bisons in the playyoffs? If not is Vlad goin back to AA?

 

No, and no.

[Krylian]

Spanky should change his name to Brady Feigl too

 

Spanky's a ginger too? Of course! f***... That explains so much! Thanks.

[Spanky__99]

Spanky's a ginger too? Of course! f***... That explains so much! Thanks.

 

http://www.memesboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/On-Snap-Looks-We-Got-A-Badass-Meme.jpg

[spats]

The Trenton starter was topping out at 90,91, Bichette also made an error on that first pitch of the game that somehow was scored as a single.

 

The NH stadium is nicer then Dunedin, man Dunedin is such a hunk of junk lol

 

Were you at the game? Will be heading to Manchester early next week...hope to catch a game in the next series if they get past Trenton.

[Laika]

Apparently there were only six (6) 20-20 seasons in the minors this year?

 

Cavan Biggio - 26/20

Kevin Smith - 25/29 (also broke the 30 doubles mark)

Corey Ray - 27/37

Kyle Tucker - 24/20

Casey Golden - 34/24 (24 year old in A ball)

Dom Thompson-Williams - 22/20 (never heard of him)

[burlingtonbandit]

Apparently there were only six (6) 20-20 seasons in the minors this year?

 

Cavan Biggio - 26/20

Kevin Smith - 25/29 (also broke the 30 doubles mark)

Corey Ray - 27/37

Kyle Tucker - 24/20

Casey Golden - 34/24 (24 year old in A ball)

Dom Thompson-Williams - 22/20 (never heard of him)

 

Funny you think that Bo would be on that list if a Jay was.

 

What's more surprising only 11 HR for him or 32 SB?

[43211234]

Apparently there were only six (6) 20-20 seasons in the minors this year?

 

Cavan Biggio - 26/20

Kevin Smith - 25/29 (also broke the 30 doubles mark)

Corey Ray - 27/37

Kyle Tucker - 24/20

Casey Golden - 34/24 (24 year old in A ball)

Dom Thompson-Williams - 22/20 (never heard of him)

 

Not that it would count but there was a Mexican League player with 34 HR and 21 SB. Or was there?

 

I only bring this up because I was looking through Fangraphs after reading your post and saw something weird.

 

In this table that aggregates across all minor leagues, Arismendy Alcantara shows up with the above numbers: https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=10711&position=2B/OF

 

However, when I go to his Fangraphs player page he is only credited with 14 HR and 13 SB: https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=10711&position=2B/OF

 

To make things even more confusing Baseball Reference shows 18 HR and 15 SB: https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=alcant003ari

 

Looking at milb.com makes things slightly clearer. It shows his 2018.1 season with 11 HR, 9 SB and his 2018.2 season with 7 HR, 6 SB. These add up to the Baseball Reference numbers: http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=570489#/career/R/hitting/2018.2/MINORS

 

I didn't know what 2018.1 and 2018.2 meant. The Mexican League wikipedia page didn't provide any answers. It simply states "Teams play 114 games each season. Five teams in each division advance to a four-round postseason tournament that culminates in the Serie del Rey, a best-of-seven championship series between the two division champions."

 

I went one one of the team websites and found the schedule page. It does look as though the season is split in 2: http://www.leones.mx/calendario

 

I went back to Fangraphs and got even more confused, as when I looked at the leaderboards for just the Mexican League, he was showing up with 30 HR and 21 SB. I have no idea where Fangraphs got the only 4 HR they were showing earlier: https://www.fangraphs.com/minorleaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=31&qual=0&type=0&season=2018&team=0&players=0&sort=10,d

 

I thought some of the postseason games were getting counted in some places but not others, yet the MiLB page shows no postseason 2018 numbers for him.

 

I hit a bit of a breakthrough when looking at the league lists on BR.

 

 

Notice that there are Spring and Autumn leagues beginning in 2018.

 

Arismendy Alcantara doesn't show up in the Spring League on BR (https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/leader.cgi?type=bat&id=4c4fdbdd) but he shows with 7 HR in the Autumn League (https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/leader.cgi?type=bat&id=51bf55cf)

 

 

 

TLDR: The Mexican League split into Spring and Autumn seasons starting in 2018 and all the statistics websites seem to have not updated their methods for scraping the data and everything is a mess. I assume the 34 HR and 21 SB totals from Fangraphs are from both regulars seasons and both post seasons all combined but I'm not going to go through individual boxscores to confirm that. I give up.

[tercet]

Jays Milb stadium rankings according to the ones I've been to this year...

 

NH > Buffalo > Dunedin ST Complex > Dunedin Main Stadium

 

Gonna see Hector Perez tonight for game 2, lets see if hes any good...

[TheHurl]

New Orleans is moving to Wichita. A Southern League team (Likely Jackson) is moving to New Orleans and taking the BabyCakes name and logo

[John_Havok]

Jays Milb stadium rankings according to the ones I've been to this year...

 

NH > Buffalo > Dunedin ST Complex > Dunedin Main Stadium

 

Gonna see Hector Perez tonight for game 2, lets see if hes any good...

 

1 game samples are key in determining skill. For sure.

[glory]

1 game samples are key in determining skill. For sure.

 

10 pitch samples are enough. 1 game is an eternity.

[tercet]

1 game samples are key in determining skill. For sure.

 

Yep, well I've never seen him pitch much besides some twitter clips.

 

This Trenton lineup though is pretty bad though...

[Krylian]

10 pitch samples are enough. 1 game is an eternity.

 

Agreed. Just make sure you mix at least one strike in there though.

[P2F]

New Orleans is moving to Wichita. A Southern League team (Likely Jackson) is moving to New Orleans and taking the BabyCakes name and logo

 

[glory]

I’m not expecting much out of Harold Ramirez but he’s hitting enough to be added to the 40 man after the season.

[Krylian]

I’m not expecting much out of Harold Ramirez but he’s hitting enough to be added to the 40 man after the season.

 

Who shouldn't be on the 40 man rosterb that's currently on it.

[Orgfiller]

Who shouldn't be on the 40 man rosterb that's currently on it.

 

Guerrieri, probably Mark Leiter Jr., Pompey, Rhiner Cruz. Solarte is probably gone meaning he'll be off the 40-man.

[John_Havok]

Who shouldn't be on the 40 man rosterb that's currently on it.

 

Marco and clippard will also be gone

[Stoneyen]

Bo 3-3 HBP BB SB

Biggio 1-3 2BB SB

 

Fishercats up 7-3 in the 8th

[jaysguy44]

Stay hot Bo!

[Ray]

Bo 3-3 HBP BB SB

Biggio 1-3 2BB SB

 

Fishercats up 7-3 in the 8th

 

Harold Ramirez: 3-4 with a walk

[tercet]

Met Jackson Mclelland's dad tonight at the NH game, he said that Jackson is probably going to the AFL again this year.

 

Jackson is the only guy in our system hitting 100 right besides Pearson?

[Captain Adama]

Met Jackson Mclelland's dad tonight at the NH game, he said that Jackson is probably going to the AFL again this year.

 

Jackson is the only guy in our system hitting 100 right besides Pearson?

 

How did Perez look?

[tercet]

Nothing special, he had a 92-94 fastball, he gave up way too many warning track flyballs to go along with 2 hrs.

 

Pentecost hit a hr off a starter who was topping out at 91mph, so that doesn't count.

[Krylian]

Nothing special, he had a 92-94 fastball, he gave up way too many warning track flyballs to go along with 2 hrs.

 

Pentecost hit a hr off a starter who was topping out at 91mph, so that doesn't count.

 

Bo Bichette should be burned at the stake for not hitting 3 homers off this bum of a pitcher then.

[Olerud363]

Nothing special, he had a 92-94 fastball, he gave up way too many warning track flyballs to go along with 2 hrs.

 

Pentecost hit a hr off a starter who was topping out at 91mph, so that doesn't count.

 

Of course it counts. Your logic is really flawed. Every at bat counts. Even if you think a homerun against a pitcher throwing 91 has a net value of zero, then other event's have a net negative value. If a guy strikes out against the same guy, in your logical system it's a HUGE negative flag, since hitting a homerun is nothing, the strikeout is very negative.

 

Even a single against a bad minor league pitcher is bad in your system, because the homerun is nothing.

 

Steamer projects Pentecost to hit .230 .260 .360 in the majors. He'd hit some homeruns if they played him every day, but he'd hit bad overall.

 

I agree with you that people get too excited about young players that go on a flukey hot streak, but this idea that "the stats are ********" is ********. The irony in this entire thing is that all these players that you are "predicting" will fail, are doing exactly what the stats predict.

 

Teoscar is hitting exactly what the stats predicted he would... actually he's still hitting hitting better than the stats said. Baseball Prospectus predicted he would hit .239 .302 .439, and he's hit for a bit more power.

[Krylian]

Of course it counts. Your logic is really flawed. Every at bat counts. Even if you think a homerun against a pitcher throwing 91 has a net value of zero, then other event's have a net negative value. If a guy strikes out against the same guy, in your logical system it's a HUGE negative flag, since hitting a homerun is nothing, the strikeout is very negative.

 

Even a single against a bad minor league pitcher is bad in your system, because the homerun is nothing.

 

Steamer projects Pentecost to hit .230 .260 .360 in the majors. He'd hit some homeruns if they played him every day, but he'd hit bad overall.

 

I agree with you that people get too excited about young players that go on a flukey hot streak, but this idea that "the stats are ********" is ********. The irony in this entire thing is that all these players that you are "predicting" will fail, are doing exactly what the stats predict.

 

Teoscar is hitting exactly what the stats predicted he would... actually he's still hitting hitting better than the stats said. Baseball Prospectus predicted he would hit .239 .302 .439, and he's hit for a bit more power.

 

The only possible saving grace for Pentecost is that he was so highly regarded when drafted, so the talent was always in there and it's not like he's some nobody that just got hot for a month. How much of his disappointing performance (career wise) has been injury related? Probably lots. Could he be turning the corner finally? Probably not, but there's a possibility (slim as it is) that maybe things are finally turning around for him. If nothing else, at least he gets to end the season on a positive note and maybe he's able to leverage that into a strong offseason and a positive outlook going into 2019.

 

Small victories.

[Olerud363]

That's a good point. However I hope next year he just lays off the 91 mph fastballs. Sure he can them into the seats. We know that, but it doesn't matter.

 

The organization needs to work with him, to lay off everything except 98 mph fastballs on the corners of the strike zones, and filthy breaking stuff in the zone. He needs to concentrate on swinging at those pitches to see if he can hit major league pitching.

 

He needs to take 91 mph down the middle, even if it's strike three... it's just padding the stats and decieving everybody when he hits those..