burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 4-6 weeks was announced by the Jays already. Yeah that was until he'd be re-evaluated not the length of the injury...
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 4-6 weeks was announced by the Jays already. No way, we'll see.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Author Posted May 9, 2018 No, but there are a few on here who can probably tell you what colour Juan Soto's stool was today. Gold
43211234 Verified Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Speaking of Juan Soto, I checked Keith Law's twitter to see if he had said anything about Osuna and I saw this: Soto has quite the stance. And Law apparently made the decision to call him "homeboy".
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Juan Soto has hit so many home runs that his batting average is higher than his BABIP. Suck my cock.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Speaking of Juan Soto, I checked Keith Law's twitter to see if he had said anything about Osuna and I saw this: Soto has quite the stance. And Law apparently made the decision to call him "homeboy". Wow, what a racist Huh, I don't remember ever interacting with Keith Law but he blocked me
metafour Verified Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Where's the guy with the BA subscription? Badler just put out his updated look at last year's IFA signing class.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Author Posted May 9, 2018 Where's the guy with the BA subscription? Badler just put out his updated look at last year's IFA signing class. I used to have one...but let it lapse a couple of months ago. I'll just mooch like the rest of you now.
devo Verified Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Where's the guy with the BA subscription? Badler just put out his updated look at last year's IFA signing class. Don't have a BA subscription but was able to find a couple write ups: Eric Pardinho age 17, has a smaller stature (5-foot-9, 160 pounds) but a terrific blend of stuff and polish for his age, with his stuff only ticking up since signing. Coming into July 2 last year, Pardinho sat 88-92 and touched 94 mph. While several scouts had concerns about Pardinho’s relatively filled-out build and weren’t sure how much harder he would throw, he has already gained velocity, sitting comfortably in the low 90s and topping out at 97 mph. Pardinho throws a sharp-breaking curveball that flashes plus with tight spin and good depth, giving him an out pitch. His changeup is fairly new to him and will need time to develop. Beyond the pure stuff, Pardinho separates himself with his ability to throw strikes from a calm, easy delivery. His arm action is smooth, he repeats his mechanics with minimal effort and he fills the strike zone with an understanding of how to attack hitters well beyond his years. Pardinho is already in Florida for extended spring training and will make his pro debut this year with one of the Blue Jays' U.S. affiliates. Leonardo Jimenez The Blue Jays in July signed 16-year-old shortstop Leonardo Jimenez for $825,000, the top bonus last year for a player from Panama. He stood out from an early age, representing Panama at the 12U World Cup in 2013 in Taiwan, the COPABE 14U Championship in 2015 in Venezuela and the COPABE 16U Championship in 2016 in Panama. Jimenez’ game experience shows in his baseball acumen and instincts. Jimenez (6 feet, 165 pounds) puts together quality at-bats with a good hitting approach, staying through the ball well to use the middle of the field with a line-drive swing and doubles power from the right side. While other shortstops at the top of the class have more quick twitch and explosiveness, Jimenez has a chance to stick at the position because of his ability to slow the game down and play under control. He’s a tick below-average runner with soft hands, good body control and instincts for the position. Jimenez is in Florida now for extended spring training. Miguel Hiraldo Some clubs considered Dominican shortstop Miguel Hiraldo, who signed for $750,000 on July 2, one of the top hitters in the class. Built like a catcher with a strong, sturdy frame (5-foot-11, 175 pounds), Hiraldo is a physically mature player for being 17 years old. A righthanded hitter, Hiraldo has a compact swing, setting up with his hands at his ears and coming straight down to the ball. Despite the lack of separation in his stroke, Hiraldo is able to generate plenty of bat speed with the explosion in his hands. Some clubs had concerns about Hiraldo’s ability to adjust to secondary stuff and use the opposite field, but he’s a good fastball hitter who makes frequent, hard contact in games, with strong legs and forearms to drive the ball with average raw power. Most clubs viewed Hiraldo as a future third baseman—one who would likely slide over there soon due to his body type and defensive actions. While the main draw on Hiraldo is his offensive ability, the Blue Jays were more optimistic than other clubs about his defense, believing he has a chance to stay at shortstop with good hands and arm strength, so he will begin his career up the middle. Hiraldo trained with “Mon.”
jaysguy44 Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Anyone able to post BA most recent mock draft? I think they put out a new one on Monday
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 I have a BA account but have not been able to use it since they switched to the new site. I'll make a point to get it re set up/fixed by this weekend.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Author Posted May 9, 2018 I have a BA account but have not been able to use it since they switched to the new site. I'll make a point to get it re set up/fixed by this weekend. Gimme your user name and password and I'll post everything for you. I will provide this service to you and you alone.
GreekFatAss Verified Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 1 Tigers Casey Mize Auburn RHP Notes: This is the easy pick. It starts to get dicey immediately after No. 1. 2 Giants Joey Bart Georgia Tech C Notes: San Francisco controls the draft at No. 2 and has been linked to a number of players with the second overall pick, but they’ve been all over Joey Bart since the beginning of the season. He’s hit and caught well enough to justify going this high, and the highest pick the Giants have had this century prior to this year was in 2008 when the team took Florida State catcher Buster Posey with the fifth overall pick. Drafting an ACC catcher worked out pretty well for them then. Maybe it will again. 3 Phillies Alec Bohm Wichita State 3B Notes: Philadelphia has selected a few players with questionable impact potential at the top of the draft in recent years, and while there’s still time for 2016 No. 1 overall pick Mickey Moniak to figure things out, there’s a lot of pressure on the Phillies here at No. 3. They don’t select again until the fourth round, so why not take a bat with tons of power at one of the safest draft demographics there is? 4 White Sox Jonathan India Florida 3B Notes: India has been surging all spring and it sounds like he’s still in the mix for teams even higher than No. 4 overall. His batting average has recently dipped below .400, but he’s having a career year in the SEC (.392/.531/.791) and has faced significantly stiffer competition than Bohm and Oregon State second baseman Nick Madrigal, which is a point in his favor. India is even better (.407/.559/.852) in conference play. As one scouting director noted, teams who have taken productive SEC hitters at the top of the draft (Nick Senzel, Alex Bregman, Dansby Swanson, Andrew Benintendi) have rarely been disappointed. Additionally, India’s .399 isolated slugging through 47 games is an extremely rare trait to see in a college infielder this century. 5 Reds Brady Singer Florida RHP Notes: Singer throws from a lower arm slot, the changeup could be a little better and there’s still some uncertainty surrounding why the Blue Jays didn’t sign Singer out of high school. However, he’s been durable (over 250 innings with the Gators), successful and he has solid mid-rotation stuff. As one of the higher probability major leaguers in this draft, he seems to fit higher than lower in the first round. He pitched well, as usual, in a recent marquee matchup against Mize and Auburn in front of Reds general manager Dick Williams. 6 Mets Nick Madrigal Oregon State 2B/SS Notes: Madrigal hasn’t skipped a beat since returning to the Beavers’ lineup after missing almost two months with a wrist injury, with seven multi-hit games since returning to action on April 19. Madrigal will also have the chance to face a pair of potential day one arms in Tristan Beck and Kris Bubic this weekend when Stanford comes to Corvallis for a big three-game series. 7 Padres Matthew Liberatore Mountain Ridge HS, Glendale, Ariz. LHP Notes: Many evaluators still see Liberatore as the first prep pitcher off the board, and a step above the rest of the high school pitching class. To be clear, Padres’ 2017 first-round pick MacKenzie Gore was ahead of where Liberatore currently is at this point last season in terms of present stuff and command, but scouts love the Arizona commit’s feel for pitching. He was sitting 92-94, touching 96 mph in a recent outing in front of many high-level decision makers for teams picking from five to 10. 8 Braves Jarred Kelenic Waukesha (Wis.) West HS OF Notes: Kelenic has been difficult to scout given the weather he’s dealt with this spring, but the Braves have had someone from the organization watching his every move. He had a loud performance last weekend, when he went 11-for-17 with five doubles and a home run against Division I commits. While the Braves will always be in the mix for power arms, they could go with arguably the best prep hitter in the class to add to a system already loaded with pitching. Arizona third baseman Nolan Gorman could fit here as well, as a player with more raw talent at this age than Austin Riley, who has developed well in the Braves system. Still, it would be unwise to count Atlanta out of pitching here and it sounds like the team likes South Florida lefthander Shane McClanahan, as well as high-upside prep arms like Ethan Hankins, Kumar Rocker and Carter Stewart. 9 Athletics Shane McClanahan South Florida LHP Notes: McClanahan should be in the mix higher up the board, so if he falls here the Athletics might be thrilled to get a player with top-five talent. If this scenario happens, it would be a similar situation to how the A’s landed A.J. Puk with the sixth pick in 2016. After a few rough starts in late March and early April, McClanahan has allowed just five hits in his last two games, striking out 23 batters and walking five. 10 Pirates Grayson Rodriguez Central Heights HS, Nacogdoches, Texas RHP Notes: Rodriguez meets a lot of the same criteria that defined Shane Baz last year, who the team took with the No. 12 overall pick. He’s a big Texas righthander who’s up to 98 mph, has done a lot of work to improve his body over the offseason and repeats his delivery well. A few weeks ago Rodriguez was being talked about in the back half of the first round, but it sounds like he’s moving even higher than that. 11 Orioles Cole Winn Orange (Calif.) Lutheran HS RHP Notes: Winn has been arguably the most consistent prep pitcher in the class dating back to last summer and Baltimore has shown no recent hesitation with prep righthanders in the first round. A team that doesn’t like injury risks, Baltimore seems like a solid fit for Winn, who has been as steady as they come. 12 Blue Jays Noah Naylor St. Joan of Arc Catholic SS, Mississauga, Ont. 3B/C Notes: Naylor has been rising in recent weeks and, given his strong track record against professional hitters with Team Canada, has an argument as the most polished prep bat in the class. 13 Marlins Nolan Gorman O'Connor HS, Phoenix 3B Notes: The Marlins are a tough team to peg at this moment, but many people in the industry believe they will be taking a high school player at this spot on June 4. Gorman wouldn’t have had a shot to get to them before the season, so they might like the idea of popping his close to elite raw power at No. 13. The team has also leaned towards hitters at the top of the draft recently, and given the state of the farm system and major league franchise, might be willing to swing for a homer here with the Gorman—who put on a show at the Major League High School Home Run Derby at Marlins Park last summer. Triston Casas and Naylor were both in that event and also make some sense here. 14 Mariners Travis Swaggerty South Alabama OF Notes: While the Marlins seem to be leaning towards the prep avenue, Seattle could easily go in the other direction and in this situation Travis Swaggerty would be the best player on the board. Swaggerty is having a solid season, hitting .301/.466/.584 with 45 walks and 30 strikeouts in 166 at-bats. 15 Rangers Carter Stewart Eau Gallie HS, Melbourne, Fla. RHP Notes: Stewart could easily go higher than this (i.e. Atlanta), but he scuffled a bit in his last start of the season and some evaluators see him more in the 10-15 range now. His two potential 70-grade pitches and performance in front of high-end decision makers this spring should keep him in the top half of the first round either way. 16 Rays Brice Turang Santiago HS, Corona, Calif. SS Notes: If Turang slips out of the Top 10, it’s going to be hard for many teams in the rest of the draft class to match his reported asking price. Scouts now say that he could end up making it to Louisiana State, something that seemed impossible when the season began. That would still be extremely surprising to actually see happen, and teams like the Rays and Royals have plenty of pool space to pop Turang and sign him. 17 Angels Ethan Hankins Forsyth Central HS, Cumming, Ga. RHP Notes: Hankins has looked better on the mound in recent weeks as he continues to build innings after missing a few starts with a scapula issue, and his camp is confident that a clean MRI will allow teams to worry less as well. He isn’t quite back to the summer form that had him as the best player in the high school class, but he’s trending in the right direction and currently could be on the board as high as No. 8. 18 Royals Jordyn Adams Green Hope HS, Cary, N.C. OF Notes: Adams is going to rightfully command a big bonus as a two-way commit with prospects on the football field as well as the diamond, and recently evaluators have even compared the North Carolina outfielder to Byron Buxton. Buxton’s 2012 scouting report sounds eerily similar to Adams, although at this point Adams has less track record than Buxton had. 19 Cardinals Parker Meadows Grayson (Ga.) HS OF Notes: Meadows would be a slightly off-the-board selection here at No. 18, but St. Louis has been in on the toolsy Georgia outfielder all spring and had no reservations taking prep outfielder Dylan Carlson at No. 33 two years ago. 20 Twins Jackson Kowar Florida RHP Notes: Kowar could be in the mix throughout the teens, but makes some sense for the Twins as a polished college arm who could move quickly through the system and impact a major league club that’s set on contending. 21 Brewers Trevor Larnach Oregon State OF Notes: Larnach has been one of college baseball’s most improved hitters this season and has maintained his power throughout the season in the Pac-12. 22 Rockies Kumar Rocker North Oconee HS, Bogart, Ga. RHP Notes: Rocker to the Rockies. It makes sense phonetically and philosophically as Colorado loves to go after power arms. Fellow Georgia product Cole Wilcox might be in the mix here as well, as he recently out pitched Rocker in a big-time playoff matchup and has seen steady improvement this spring. Wilcox may be higher than Rocker on some teams’ boards, but Rocker has a longer history of showing major league caliber stuff. 23 Yankees Triston Casas American Heritage School, Plantation, Fla. 1B Notes: It’s sounding like the Yankees want to go after a hitter at No. 23. The major league team currently has some of the biggest sluggers in baseball so maybe they’ll try and replicate the success of Aaron Judge with Triston Casas, who has an imposing frame, a patient approach and serious raw power. Georgia catcher Anthony Seigler might start to be in play in this range as well, as scouting director Damon Oppenheimer has seen him multiple times. 24 Cubs Anthony Seigler Cartersville (Ga.) HS C Notes: Seigler has done a lot to raise his stock this spring, hitting with authority from both sides of the plate and playing solid defense behind the plate. At this point he should be the first prep catcher off the board aside from Noah Naylor (who many teams might prefer to push as a third baseman) and several teams sound interested in this range. 25 Diamondbacks Ryan Weathers Loretto (Tenn.) HS LHP Notes: It’s possible that Weathers is gone long before 25. Teams have regularly said he fits in the middle of the first round and he’s pitched well this spring. This mock would have the D-backs taking the best player available. They could also opt for a college bat. 26 Red Sox Jeremy Eierman Missouri State SS Notes: Boston is likely out on many of the prep righthanders who could be available in this range, and seems to prefer a college player at No. 26. This could be the highest that a player like Clemson’s Seth Beer gets taken, but Missouri State shortstop Jeremy Eierman is a much safer profile with a chance to play shortstop and Red Sox scouting director Mike Rikard has seen him homer in person this spring. 27 Nationals Connor Scott Plant HS, Tampa OF/LHP Notes: The Nationals might love for Scott to get to them at No. 27, as he could be in play as high as the back of the top 10 and throughout the middle of the first round. He’s dealt with some minor injuries throughout the summer and this spring, but when he’s been on the field has been excellent with the bat and on the mound as a strike throwing lefthander. He has more ceiling as an everyday player. 28 Astros Logan Gilbert Stetson RHP Notes: Gilbert has slid a bit this spring thanks to lower fastball velocity than he showed during the summer, but he does a lot of things that an analytical team like the Astros might like, including strike out 109 batters in 78 innings. 29 Indians Alek Thomas Mount Carmel HS, Chicago OF Notes: The Indians have taken a number of prep outfielders in the first round in recent years and might love Alek Thomas’ athleticism, feel to hit and high likelihood of sticking in center field. Indiana high schooler Nick Schnell, who’s among the hottest hitters in the country, could be in play here as well if he hasn’t gone off the board already. Cleveland loves feel to hit though, and Thomas likely has the edge here with more history barreling top competition than Schnell. 30 Dodgers Ryan Rolison Mississippi LHP Notes: This mock has Rolison falling a bit lower than some teams expect. He could be in play much higher than this and a team who isn’t concerned with some of his mechanical issues this spring might even like him in the top 10. That said, the Dodgers will have to react to what every team in the league does in front of them, and here they could take the best player available. 31 Rays Nick Schnell Roncalli HS, Indianapolis OF Notes: The Rays have been one of many teams bearing down on Schnell recently and he seems to fit the bill as a high-upside talent. Tampa Bay can start to get creative with back-to-back comp picks at the end of the first round as well. 32 Rays Mason Denaburg Merritt Island (Fla.) HS RHP Notes: Seen at times this spring as a potential top of the first round pick, a biceps injury shut down Denaburg this spring but he’s got as much upside as any prep righthander in the class and elite athleticism. This mock has the Rays going high school all the way. 33 Royals Jordan Groshans Magnolia (Texas) HS 3B/SS Notes: The Royals have more money than any team in the class, though they will be somewhat limited by what the Rays do with the two picks in front of them. Groshans has hit well this spring in front of a lot of heat and could go off the board here with plus power and a frame that could add more. 34 Royals Jeremiah Jackson St. Luke's Episcopal School, Mobile, Ala. SS Notes: Another offense-first infielder, Jackson began his season by homering in his first at-bat and has terrific bat speed as well as a strong arm. He might have less of a chance to stick at shortstop than some other prep infielders, but could turn into a mashing second baseman with enough glove skill to handle the position. Many teams interested in Seigler higher than this seem to think that he won’t get past these comp picks. 35 Indians Steele Walker Oklahoma OF Notes: At this point we’re basically guessing, so let’s double down on the Indians loving hittability and give them Walker, who is having a career year with Oklahoma (including an OPS over 1.000) and a high floor.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Where's the guy with the BA subscription? Badler just put out his updated look at last year's IFA signing class. PM me next time. Total 2017 signings: 38. Top 2017-18 signing: RHP Eric Pardinho, Brazil, $1.4 million. The Blue Jays went over their international bonus pool in 2015 to sign one player: Vladimir Guerrero Jr. That was a wise decision. Since the Blue Jays went over their pool that year by a tick under 15 percent, they were subject to one year of signing restrictions instead of two. After sitting in the $300,000-and-under penalty box in 2016, the Blue Jays were free again in 2017, with a class headlined by the top international pitching prospect available, Brazilian righthander Eric Pardinho. Prior to signing for $1.4 million, Pardinho put on a dazzling display in July 2016 at the COPABE 16U Pan American Championship in Panama, where he struck out 14 batters with only one walk in six innings against a Dominican Republic team that included several of the country’s top 2017 prospects. Two months later, Pardinho pitched out of the bullpen for Brazil in the World Baseball Classic qualifier in New York as a 15-year-old. Pardinho, 17, has a smaller stature (5-foot-9, 160 pounds) but a terrific blend of stuff and polish for his age, with his stuff only ticking up since signing. Coming into July 2 last year, Pardinho sat 88-92 and touched 94 mph. While several scouts had concerns about Pardinho’s relatively filled-out build and weren’t sure how much harder he would throw, he has already gained velocity, sitting comfortably in the low 90s and topping out at 97 mph. Pardinho throws a sharp-breaking curveball that flashes plus with tight spin and good depth, giving him an out pitch. His changeup is fairly new to him and will need time to develop. Beyond the pure stuff, Pardinho separates himself with his ability to throw strikes from a calm, easy delivery. His arm action is smooth, he repeats his mechanics with minimal effort and he fills the strike zone with an understanding of how to attack hitters well beyond his years. Pardinho is already in Florida for extended spring training and will make his pro debut this year with one of the Blue Jays' U.S. affiliates. The Blue Jays in July signed 16-year-old shortstop Leonardo Jimenez for $825,000, the top bonus last year for a player from Panama. He stood out from an early age, representing Panama at the 12U World Cup in 2013 in Taiwan, the COPABE 14U Championship in 2015 in Venezuela and the COPABE 16U Championship in 2016 in Panama. Jimenez’ game experience shows in his baseball acumen and instincts. Jimenez (6 feet, 165 pounds) puts together quality at-bats with a good hitting approach, staying through the ball well to use the middle of the field with a line-drive swing and doubles power from the right side. While other shortstops at the top of the class have more quick twitch and explosiveness, Jimenez has a chance to stick at the position because of his ability to slow the game down and play under control. He’s a tick below-average runner with soft hands, good body control and instincts for the position. Jimenez is in Florida now for extended spring training. Some clubs considered Dominican shortstop Miguel Hiraldo, who signed for $750,000 on July 2, one of the top hitters in the class. Built like a catcher with a strong, sturdy frame (5-foot-11, 175 pounds), Hiraldo is a physically mature player for being 17 years old. A righthanded hitter, Hiraldo has a compact swing, setting up with his hands at his ears and coming straight down to the ball. Despite the lack of separation in his stroke, Hiraldo is able to generate plenty of bat speed with the explosion in his hands. Some clubs had concerns about Hiraldo’s ability to adjust to secondary stuff and use the opposite field, but he’s a good fastball hitter who makes frequent, hard contact in games, with strong legs and forearms to drive the ball with average raw power. Most clubs viewed Hiraldo as a future third baseman—one who would likely slide over there soon due to his body type and defensive actions. While the main draw on Hiraldo is his offensive ability, the Blue Jays were more optimistic than other clubs about his defense, believing he has a chance to stay at shortstop with good hands and arm strength, so he will begin his career up the middle. Hiraldo trained with “Mon.” The Blue Jays also signed 17-year-old Venezuelan righthander Alejandro Melean for $750,000 on July 2. Melean, who was Baseball America’s top-ranked pitcher last year going into July 2, is 6 feet, 175 pounds with the delivery, repertoire and feel for pitching to project as a starter. Melean has a fluid, athletic delivery and quick arm speed, throwing 88-92 mph and scraping 93 mph. His best pitch is his mid- to upper-70s curveball, which flashes above-average with tight spin and good depth to generate empty swings. Melean’s changeup has made significant progress since signing, and with his arm action and ability to manipulate the ball the pitch has promising upside. Melean has simple mechanics that are easy for him to repeat and help him throw frequent strikes. He trained with Victor Grasso. Dominican center fielder Alberto Rodriguez was one of the more prominent players in the 2017 class leading into 2016, though some up-and-down showings affected his stock before signing with the Blue Jays for $500,000 on July 2. A compact 5-foot-11, 180 pounds with a thick lower half, Rodriguez is a lefty with a loose, quick swing and uses the whole field. His bat path can get tilted uphill and he’s prone to expanding the strike zone, but even when he loses his balance he has the ability to keep his hands back to put the ball in play. Rodriguez, 17, is mostly a line-drive hitter with occasional shots to the alleys, and he probably won’t ever be a big power threat. To be an everyday player, Rodriguez has to stick in center field, which scouts were mixed on. He’s a solid-average runner with a good gait, sound defensive instincts for his age and an average arm with a loose throwing stroke. Rodriguez trained with Luis Mejia and Jaime Ramos. Rainer Nunez is a 17-year-old Dominican shortstop (though he will probably move to third base) who the Blue Jays signed for $350,000 in July from El Niche’s academy. Tall and lean at 6-foot-3, 180 pounds, Nunez is a righthanded hitter who has shown flashes of offensive promise, hitting well in games when the Blue Jays scouted him. He has a big leg kick, and with his long limbs he has to work to maintain his balance and timing. He has solid strength now and should be able to gain significant power once he adds more weight to a frame that has a lot of space to fill out. Venezuelan shortstop Jose Rivas, 17, signed with the Blue Jays for $280,000 in July. Rivas has a smaller stature (5-foot-9, 165 pounds) and hits well in games with a simple stroke from the right side. A high-energy, hard-nosed player, Rivas has a tablesetter profile, managing his bats well with a knack for getting on base as a line-drive hitter with gap power. Rivas is a slightly above-average runner who will probably develop as a shortstop but might ultimately fit best at second base. Ronald Govea, who trained in the same program as Melean, is a 17-year-old Venezuelan righthander the Blue Jays signed for $200,000 on July 2. Govea isn’t a hard thrower but he stood out for his touch and feel on the mound, with good athleticism, arm action and mechanics. At 6-foot-3, 175 pounds, Govea has a projectable frame and signed throwing in the mid-80s. He’s increased that to 85-88 mph and should continue to keep that growing, though even at lower velocity he was able to generate swings and misses with his fastball. Govea is a prolific strike thrower and has shown feel to spin a curveball that’s ahead of his changeup. Toward the end of the 2016-17 signing period, the Blue Jays signed 18-year-old Dominican righthander Jeison Contreras for $175,000 in May, and he pitched briefly as a reliever in the Dominican Summer League. Contreras has a chance to throw hard once he fills out his tall, projectable build (6-foot-4, 185 pounds), with a fastball that reaches 93 mph now. Contreras could develop into a power arm, but he’s still developing his control and secondary stuff to become more pitcher than thrower.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Jonathan India with all of the helium, FFS.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Wow, what a racist Huh, I don't remember ever interacting with Keith Law but he blocked me Law reads this board
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Jonathan India with all of the helium, FFS. Don't see that happening. He has been mediocre for the most part at Florida and this year has taken off. First round pick possibly but not top 5 imo. Even the SEC Network today projected him to be like the 7th SEC player taken...so 4th overall is freaking crazy lol
metafour Verified Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Don't see that happening. He has been mediocre for the most part at Florida and this year has taken off. First round pick possibly but not top 5 imo. Even the SEC Network today projected him to be like the 7th SEC player taken...so 4th overall is freaking crazy lol No offense, but WTF does the SEC Network know about the draft? Even Keith Law has him going 6th in his latest mock, so this is a very real thing. What BA wrote there makes perfect sense: he's a 3B/SS who is mashing in the SEC. Guys like that don't typically make it out of the Top 10.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 It's been like a month since I watched a South Alabama baseball game but it looks like Travis Swaggerty stats have regressed a bit from his red hot start. fantastic PD numbers this year though. Looks like he could be around when we pick now.
AledmysDiaz Verified Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 I'd rather see Deck McGuire given a shot than watch Jaime Garcia throw meat balls down the middle of the playe
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 No offense, but WTF does the SEC Network know about the draft? Even Keith Law has him going 6th in his latest mock, so this is a very real thing. What BA wrote there makes perfect sense: he's a 3B/SS who is mashing in the SEC. Guys like that don't typically make it out of the Top 10. They watch the SEC players every freaking day. Keith Law blows and does not watch them everyday
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Jason Groome TJS He's been pretty meh anyway. Probably come back and be a s***** ass reliever instead of a mediocre one.
metafour Verified Member Posted May 10, 2018 Posted May 10, 2018 They watch the SEC players every freaking day. Keith Law blows and does not watch them everyday They base their mocks off what actual scouts and front office personnel are saying/doing. When multiple draft guys are reporting him in the Top 10, then it's probably legit. The SEC Network isn't talking to scouts lol.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted May 10, 2018 Posted May 10, 2018 Don't see that happening. He has been mediocre for the most part at Florida and this year has taken off. First round pick possibly but not top 5 imo. Even the SEC Network today projected him to be like the 7th SEC player taken...so 4th overall is freaking crazy lol Yes, his college numbers were fairly pedestrian in 2016 and 17, but what he's doing this season is completely absurd. If certain teams are seen heavily scouting him, it's easy to draw conclusions that he's likely to go in a particular range in the draft. These lists are pretty fluid. It was less than a month ago that he was projected to go in the second half of the draft, but new information or looks can often change these things in a hurry.
metafour Verified Member Posted May 10, 2018 Posted May 10, 2018 Not only that, but current looks are more important than a year or two ago, which is why you see HS guys who look worse in recent weeks dropping. Same thing with Seth Beer. India is hitting 400 in the SEC and he plays a solid position, to pretend that 7 guys from that conference alone will go above him is absurd. Who else does the SEC Network have above him? Ryan Rollison who's looked down all season and who got shelled in his last start?
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted May 10, 2018 Posted May 10, 2018 Yes, his college numbers were fairly pedestrian in 2016 and 17, but what he's doing this season is completely absurd. If certain teams are seen heavily scouting him, it's easy to draw conclusions that he's likely to go in a particular range in the draft. These lists are pretty fluid. It was less than a month ago that he was projected to go in the second half of the draft, but new information or looks can often change these things in a hurry. He could totally go top 5...but shouldn't imo. I've watched him a bunch this year and past years. I kind of liken him to the college version of Pham. A crazy good year kind of out of nowhere from a player who was kind of average but did have a few injuries. If he replicates what he is doing going forward he could be an amazing player...just dosent have a track record of it, so is it a hot year?, finally healthy year?, skill taking over?, luck?, a combination?.....is that a top 5 pick in the draft?
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted May 10, 2018 Posted May 10, 2018 Not only that, but current looks are more important than a year or two ago, which is why you see HS guys who look worse in recent weeks dropping. Same thing with Seth Beer. India is hitting 400 in the SEC and he plays a solid position, to pretend that 7 guys from that conference alone will go above him is absurd. Who else does the SEC Network have above him? Ryan Rollison who's looked down all season and who got shelled in his last start? Singer and Mize for sure were
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