BTS Community Moderator Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I appreciate the nominations, but I participate in like 6 GDTs a year.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 They're not fine because they don't add any value to the forum. If you're angry about a Jays loss and want somewhere to vent, scream into a pillow or something. The retinas of hundreds of other people should not be punished just because a post isn't a repeated personal attack. Obviously you don't understand the concept of a message board
Followthelight Verified Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 They're not fine because they don't add any value to the forum. If you're angry about a Jays loss and want somewhere to vent, scream into a pillow or something. The retinas of hundreds of other people should not be punished just because a post isn't a repeated personal attack. You are grossly over stating some negativity. It is asinine to outright ban some harmless venting or criticism. People are not robots. Some tolerance is needed. Pretty crazy to suggest outright banning any negative comments. Wtf is this a prison camp? It's a " discussion" board. Not only half glass full discussions. If someone cannot tolerate different views and no negativity or criticism there is an issue.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 They're not fine because they don't add any value to the forum. If you're angry about a Jays loss and want somewhere to vent, scream into a pillow or something. The retinas of hundreds of other people should not be punished just because a post isn't a repeated personal attack. lmao
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 This is not the movie "Nineteen Eighty-Four" lol. Never seen the Movie! And you are not George Orwell so what's your point! Some words used in the past are not spoken or received kindly today either! The Flinstones were removed from Regina TV because uncle Tex called Indians savages! True story.. Sad too! Those words I suggested cause problems in threads they do, even you have to admit that! That and comment telling others to stop quoting others, really! Lol
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I don't really mind the negative posts in the GDT's (not that i make them) But if someone is so upset they want to say "this team sucks" or whatever in the heat of the moment it's easy for me to move on. Pretty much 90% of the posts are garbage anyways because it's hard to have an intelligent convo when the pages move so fast and it's just like "omgzzzzz Donaldson is awesomeeeeee dude". I agree it doesn't add any value to the board but it's probably better/healthier then being pissy at home with their family. I say let people vent as long as they contribute to other areas. I'm probably in the vast minority so i guess it doesn't matter. lol
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 They're not fine because they don't add any value to the forum. If you're angry about a Jays loss and want somewhere to vent, scream into a pillow or something. The retinas of hundreds of other people should not be punished just because a post isn't a repeated personal attack. But, seriously...saying Gibby sucks, or Goins blows at hitting, Revere hasn't hit a dang thing, stuff like that is fine...saying the Jays will get swept, we suck, seasons over, stuff like that should not be allowed.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 They're not fine because they don't add any value to the forum. If you're angry about a Jays loss and want somewhere to vent, scream into a pillow or something. The retinas of hundreds of other people should not be punished just because a post isn't a repeated personal attack. I don't think the odd bit of venting from time to time is necessarily bad, but people need to limit it to one or two posts and be done with it. There's no need to fill dozens of pages and threads with it every night, or rage about something for weeks after it happened.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Yeah it's better to have way too many mods than too few. Adding 5-10 guys (and ladies @vdub!!) would be a good idea. Please let me be one! BBBB " The Ban Hammer" Thank you!
baubau Verified Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I think only GD nominated me. I would start my mod days by banning Ang and then perma banning King. I enjoy his antics of trying to get back with different names. In real life its like trying to block a person but he comes back with a fake mustache and sombrero saying "what? me king? No!!" Jokes aside, I nominate KingKat. He is the Koolest.
admin Site Manager Posted August 16, 2015 Author Posted August 16, 2015 I don't really mind the negative posts in the GDT's (not that i make them) But if someone is so upset they want to say "this team sucks" or whatever in the heat of the moment it's easy for me to move on. Pretty much 90% of the posts are garbage anyways because it's hard to have an intelligent convo when the pages move so fast and it's just like "omgzzzzz Donaldson is awesomeeeeee dude". I agree it doesn't add any value to the board but it's probably better/healthier then being pissy at home with their family. I say let people vent as long as they contribute to other areas. I'm probably in the vast minority so i guess it doesn't matter. lol I don't go into GDT anymore, but I'm the same as you. I don't see it as a big deal to say "f*** this team" in the GDT. Like you said, when they win and say "Yes!" or similar, no one minds because everyone is happy about winning.
Followthelight Verified Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I don't think the odd bit of venting from time to time is necessarily bad, but people need to limit it to one or two posts and be done with it. There's no need to fill dozens of pages and threads with it every night, or rage about something for weeks after it happened. Exactly, do we expect people not act like human beings on this message board?
Belliss101 Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I don't think the odd bit of venting from time to time is necessarily bad, but people need to limit it to one or two posts and be done with it. There's no need to fill dozens of pages and threads with it every night, or rage about something for weeks after it happened. I have a feeling Gibby's 8th inning decision will be a topic of venting for quite some time
Followthelight Verified Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I don't go into GDT anymore, but I'm the same as you. I don't see it as a big deal to say "f*** this team" in the GDT. Like you said, when they win and say "Yes!" or similar, no one minds because everyone is happy about winning. That's level headed and the way it should be. If someone is doing it over and over then that's different, pretty simple. People need to use the ignore feature if they simply don't see eye to eye with a poster. Instead of crying for bans and calling them trolls over and over which derails GDT's.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I don't think the odd bit of venting from time to time is necessarily bad, but people need to limit it to one or two posts and be done with it. There's no need to fill dozens of pages and threads with it every night, or rage about something for weeks after it happened. I agree. It's really about who the poster is. How often it is and If they contribute to actual baseball discussions. I get North's point of view....he's probably one of the smartest guys on here when it's comes to SABR and the game in general. I just hear way worse when i watch games with friends/live. Plus a message board post is never going to upset me....i can just read on. Edit: Unless it's like racist/discriminatory. That s*** should never be on public forums.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I'm going to volunteer. I've actually been pretty close to leaving this forum because of how bad its gotten recently, so it's nice to see that this is now a topic of conversation, and if I can help to make it better, I'd like to. I have some experience as a moderator, and despite the fact that I've been quite opinionated and confrontational as a regular poster, I wouldn't carry that same demeanor as a mod. With that said, I know I'll never be a popular choice and some people might revolt if you pick me. If the best way to work this out is for me to simply stop posting regularly and act as a behind-the-scenes moderator, I'm open to that. I don't really have any allegiances on this forum so you can trust that I'll look at every situation objectively, I've been around long enough to have a pretty good gauge on how people carry themselves, and I think I've made it pretty clear in the past that I want to see this place grow. Despite what some very vocal people here might think of me, I do feel confident that I'd be one of the better candidates. I also think this place needs more than one new moderator, so I'll nominate North and Deadpool primarily, as well as BTS, baubau, Abomination and KingKat.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Negative posts are fine if they contain some justification. If you really want to complain about Goins or Gibby being bad, then make the post a few sentences long and include some content that others have not already touched on. Your view seems to be in the vast minority on this one. I get that negativity as a whole can be bad, but your ideas would take this board down quickly. GDTs are almost entirely reactionary posts. Being negative when the moment allows for it is totally within reason and acceptability
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I think TwistedLogic would be excellent, aside from the fact that he'd ban me and Hurl.
Followthelight Verified Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I think TwistedLogic would be excellent, aside from the fact that he'd ban me and Hurl. lol
GD Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I think TwistedLogic would be excellent, including the fact that he'd ban me and Hurl. Strange that you'd say something like that but hey if that's how you feel.
Followthelight Verified Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 How does spamming irrationally negative one-liners add value to this message board? I don't see it. GDTs may be different because it's accepted that this type of behaviour is the norm, but maybe the purpose of GDTs needs to be better defined. I'm not suggesting banning people for negative posts, I'm saying that thought-out discussions should be cultivated. He is not talking about spamming, that's different, spamming and constant BS yes that should be dealt with.. The occassional venting or negative comment is fine, what are we suppose to do express all our human emotions? Within reason should be fine and accepted. He was talking about the latter.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Your view seems to be in the vast minority on this one. I get that negativity as a whole can be bad, but your ideas would take this board down quickly. GDTs are almost entirely reactionary posts. Being negative when the moment allows for it is totally within reason and acceptability I think there are two types of negative posts in the GDTs. "f*** off Gibbons" or "Navarro is a fat piece of s***" are just venting. "the ship is sinking save us prophet Shea" posts are IP ban worthy.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 the problem comes when it is the same posts every 2 minutes in the GDT. then you get 20 other people quoting that post and then posts about those posts.... it takes on a life of it's own and then there is no room for baseball discussion. we have a fire gibbons thread where people can vent almost all they like. there is a hate on AA thread as well. NO ONE has been banned for a single "this team sucks" comment. we all feel that way now and then.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Strange that you'd say something like that but hey if that's how you feel. I like TwistedLogic. I've always liked TwistedLogic, our disagreement last week notwithstandingI think he's smart enough to handle moderating an Internet message board.
vdubmvp Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I enjoy his antics of trying to get back with different names. In real life its like trying to block a person but he comes back with a fake mustache and sombrero saying "what? me king? No!!" This might be my favourite post ever.
Followthelight Verified Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 the problem comes when it is the same posts every 2 minutes in the GDT. then you get 20 other people quoting that post and then posts about those posts.... it takes on a life of it's own and then there is no room for baseball discussion. we have a fire gibbons thread where people can vent almost all they like. there is a hate on AA thread as well. NO ONE has been banned for a single "this team sucks" comment. we all feel that way now and then. The issue also is sometimes that one "this guy sucks post" leads to 4-5 posters ganging up on the one poster, asking for bans, calling them a troll etc..that is a major issue that totally derails the thread and leads to bickering. Example... A few GDT ago, I casually said Tulo was struggling...a few posters jumped on me saying i was a troll, reciting his career stats and that I didn't have a clue..He is a fabulous player, no doubt, nothing I said refutes that it was just a statement that he was in a funk. It was ridiculous to badger me over that.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 How does spamming irrationally negative one-liners add value to this message board? I don't see it. GDTs may be different because it's accepted that this type of behaviour is the norm, but maybe the purpose of GDTs needs to be better defined. I'm not suggesting banning people for negative posts, I'm saying that thought-out discussions should be cultivated. I get your point. I think you are missing mine. Negative posts are fine as long as it isn't every other post or something like that. Saying something negative a few times a game would be fine. A few times an inning needs to be moderated. So it's similar to your view I guess. Except there doesn't need to be thought out discussions about negative posts in a GDT.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 It's kind of funny this has gotten so much discussion. Obviously some people are dumb but if you post here regularly you probably really love the Jays.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 It's kind of funny this has gotten so much discussion. Obviously some people are dumb but if you post here regularly you probably really love the Jays. :ahem:
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