StewSo Verified Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Hello All, This is my first post so I hope it is a good one! Given that the Blue Jays has an offday today and that the rotation is doing extremely well... I think John Gibbons should do the following: Let Mark Buehrle pitch tomorrow vs the A's (To continue 4 days rest) Let R.A. Dickey pitch on Wednesday's game (To continue 4 days rest) and to pitch Drew Hutchison on Thursday vs the A's So basically it means to skip Drew Hutchison for 2 days, to let him know that he is in hot water and that he needs to deliver on Thursday By doing this, it will let us have the weekend matchup vs the Yankees as follow: David Price on Friday Marco Estrada for Saturday and Mark Buehrle will pitch on Sunday rather than Hutchison Since the games vs the Yankees are 1 game matches, we should try our best to win all of them hmm, any idea or suggestions? Thank you and have a good day!
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 It would be preferable IMO to skip Hutchison altogether. There is some merit to your idea having Hutchison follow Dickey (knuckleball effect), but Hutchison is a professional. He knows his job is to deliver, no one needs to tell him that he is in hot water.
StewSo Verified Member Posted August 10, 2015 Author Posted August 10, 2015 Thank you for your replies guys! Right actually the primary motive of my idea is to really have Buehrle to pitch on Sunday rather than Hutchison which gives us a better chance to win, and to keep the same 4 days rest rotation as much as possible (especially when they are doing so well!)since it is better to mess up the pitching days of your fifth starter than your #2 and #3 guys
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 I think it is too early to be skipping guys in the rotation. I think you will see that more come September. However i think what you might see is Dickey go on in replace of Hutch (short rest) on Sunday. And move hutch back a day. That in my eyes is ideal situation
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 I think it is too early to be skipping guys in the rotation. I think you will see that more come September. However i think what you might see is Dickey go on in replace of Hutch (short rest) on Sunday. And move hutch back a day. That in my eyes is ideal situation It's not too early to skip guys. The Blue Jays should do something very similar to what StewSo said in the OP, because they have four off-days over the next 15 days. If guys start showing any signs of fatigue, they can give them the rest they need with those days. The Jays have an advantage over the Yankees with 7 off-days to 4, so they should use that advantage as much as they can.
Followthelight Verified Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 If hutch keeps pitching the way he has, something needs to be done. We can;t afford him s***ing the bed every 5 days.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Stretch Stroman out in September. Price + Stroman + Playoffs = #CameTogether
StewSo Verified Member Posted August 10, 2015 Author Posted August 10, 2015 Twited and Sammy, I like how you guys think. Lets hope and pray that we will win at least 2 out of 3 vs the Yankees next weekend. Perosnally, I am comfortable with our line-up right now and I think we should be fine vs the A's, and AL East is still what we should be aiming for!
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 It's not too early to skip guys. The Blue Jays should do something very similar to what StewSo said in the OP, because they have four off-days over the next 15 days. If guys start showing any signs of fatigue, they can give them the rest they need with those days. The Jays have an advantage over the Yankees with 7 off-days to 4, so they should use that advantage as much as they can. This is wise. We aren't even in 1st place and a lot of people seem to think its ordained. It isn't. We need to be creative using those off days and skip where it makes common sense. If anything that should motivate Hutch further. He knows he has sucked horse balls. We will need Hutch all said and done. Many wanted to DFA or flog or or pen RA who has been very good the last 12 starts. We have seen Estrada do it as well. Hutch has the stuff to turn it around and be an asset but we don't owe him starts anymore than we owed Reyes a full 9 innings @ SS when he blew on D.
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 I would let Hutch pitch every 3rd day. How much worse can he be on short rest? And since our offense scores 25 runs in each of his starts, we'll be laughing our way to the pennant.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 If there's a way to fit Dickey into the start of all the Yankee series, they should do everything they can to achieve that. The Yankees have shown a pretty clear vulnerability to the knuckleball effect recently. They've gotten dominated by both Wright and Dickey in the span of three days, and they haven't been able to score at all in the following games.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Stretch Stroman out in September. Price + Stroman + Playoffs = #CameTogether Ya would be ideal but that can't think that Stroman will be ready to go because from what i heard last week the doctor had not signed off on him pitching off mound they anticipate this week but who knows doctors can be dicks.... Also god forbid he still has tenderness/setbacks which would suck but not completely uncommon. They have to look at what they have right now.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 If there's a way to fit Dickey into the start of all the Yankee series, that's what they should work to somehow achieve. The Yankees have shown a pretty clear vulnerability to the knuckleball effect recently. They've gotten dominated by both Wright and Dickey in the span of three days, and they haven't been able to score at all in the following games. I would bet you see Dickey Sunday on short rest.
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 If there's a way to fit Dickey into the start of all the Yankee series, they should do everything they can to achieve that with the Yankees having shown a pretty clear vulnerability to the knuckleball effect recently. They've gotten dominated by both Wright and Dickey in the span of three days, and they haven't been able to score at all in the following games. This is smart.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 It's not too early to skip guys. The Blue Jays should do something very similar to what StewSo said in the OP, because they have four off-days over the next 15 days. If guys start showing any signs of fatigue, they can give them the rest they need with those days. The Jays have an advantage over the Yankees with 7 off-days to 4, so they should use that advantage as much as they can. I like this advantage for the pitchers, but I particularly like it for the position players, especially considering the ages of the players that the Yankees heavily rely on. Not only the Yankees, but the Jays have 2-4 games up on all of their closest competitors in the AL.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 It's not too early to skip guys. The Blue Jays should do something very similar to what StewSo said in the OP, because they have four off-days over the next 15 days. If guys start showing any signs of fatigue, they can give them the rest they need with those days. The Jays have an advantage over the Yankees with 7 off-days to 4, so they should use that advantage as much as they can. I'll agree with that. that extra rest is really good with so many guys banged up, but they should also use it to slot the best pitchers in for as many starts as possible. Right now Hutch is the weakest link and for the optimal chance to win the jays should use the schedule to their advantage
Nafro Verified Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 I would let Hutch pitch every 3rd day. How much worse can he be on short rest? And since our offense scores 25 runs in each of his starts, we'll be laughing our way to the pennant. I'm going to call sarcasm on this post. Hutch is well aware he has not pitched well. Let's keep in mind this is his second season after Tommy John. He threw a lot of innings last year. He is also still a young pitcher. Young pitcher's developing at the major league level are inconsistent more times than not. I think after this start, if he struggles, he will be sent down with the off days, so Carrera or Thole can be added.
CrackerJack Verified Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 I would bet you see Dickey Sunday on short rest. on 2 days rest? lol
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 on 2 days rest? lol My Bad for some reason i thought he was due up on Wed game.
StewSo Verified Member Posted August 10, 2015 Author Posted August 10, 2015 My Bad for some reason i thought he was due up on Wed game. He would be if we skip Hutchison and pitch him Wednesday:) But personally, I am a big fan of our 19M$ pitcher Mark Buehrle, so I think even if he pitches on Sunday would be better than Hutch The last thing you want is to give the Yankees the momentum from hitting Hutchison hard.
vdartanian Verified Member Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 The Yankees have traditionally been Buehrle's kryptonite, I'm sure the Jays are happy with the way the rotation has setup over the past couple weeks. If push comes to shove, I wouldn't be opposed to skipping a few Hutch's starts if he can't pull his head out of his ass.
tpurewal97 Verified Member Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Dickey Price Estrada Buehrle Stroman :o soon enough
StewSo Verified Member Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 Ok, Hutchison pitched pretty decent today, but the trick is will he also pitch this well vs the Yankees on Sunday Go Go Jays!
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Ok, Hutchison pitched pretty decent today, but the trick is will he also pitch this well vs the Yankees on Sunday Probably not. Have to figure the leash will be extremely short. I'd consider trying to save Hendriks and/or Sanchez for multiple innings in that one if needed.
StewSo Verified Member Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 Probably not. Have to figure the leash will be extremely short. I'd consider trying to save Hendriks and/or Sanchez for multiple innings in that one if needed. I guess we shall see, but I am very happy with Sanchez with his roll as Osuna's set up man so I am not sure if I want to mess with that
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 I guess we shall see, but I am very happy with Sanchez with his roll as Osuna's set up man so I am not sure if I want to mess with that Yeah he's good at it but the team has a lot of setup men and not a lot of mutliple innings guys.
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