SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 So, just to sum things up. Their pitchers throw at our guys four times, hitting our players twice, three of those times after a "warning" was delivered to both teams. Sanchez almost hits a Royal once, actually *was* tossed out. And now he is suspended. Holy f***ing s***. f*** I am angry.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 The benches were warned. It doesn't have to be an intentional HBP for an ejection at that point. Some umpires might just eject anyone accidental or not but this umpire did not.
Dr Negative Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Can MLB actually suspend someone for what they say on twitter?
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Ball was very far inside. I don't think it's crazy to think that Sanchez intentionally intended to plunk him in the butt and missed the location a little. http://giant.gfycat.com/CloseDisguisedFieldmouse.gif Look at the arm-side run on that pitch. It almost starts in the zone (almost). I find it highly unbelievable that Sanchez was trying to run it a foot in to his hip.
King Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Can MLB actually suspend someone for what they say on twitter? Probably. Players have a social media rules/guidelines that they are expected to follow
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Can MLB actually suspend someone for what they say on twitter? Good question. I feel like they SHOULD be able to but that's a labour question really.
LTR Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 So, just to sum things up. Their pitchers throw at our guys four times, hitting our players twice, three of those times after a "warning" was delivered to both teams. Sanchez almost hits a Royal once, actually *was* tossed out. And now he is suspended. Holy f***ing s***. f*** I am angry. To be perfectly honest, I don't even care who was thrown at, why they threw at them. The only think that pisses me off is that balls were thrown at peoples heads and absolutely nothing was done. The f***ing umpire barely flinched.
King Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 A fine would have been more likely for Ventura, but eh
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Good question. I feel like they SHOULD be able to but that's a labour question really. They definitely could've fined him
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 http://giant.gfycat.com/CloseDisguisedFieldmouse.gif Look at the arm-side run on that pitch. It almost starts in the zone (almost). I find it highly unbelievable that Sanchez was trying to run it a foot in to his hip. Meh. If I was the umpire judging the situation in real time, I probably would have tossed him. Everyone was expecting this and it was pretty easy to believe it was intentional even if I might have just been a coincidence. This isn't the real issue imo. The issue is everything the Royals got away with up to this point.
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I think it was pretty obvious Sanchez hit him on purpose he was down 2-0 in the count and Martin would have set up on the middle of the plate regularly but he moved in. Volquez should have gotten something though, that pisses me off.
Fangrioter Provisional Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Bleh! Surely there will be blood if no suspensions are given to KC as well. Blehhh! Blehhhh!!
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Meh. If I was the umpire judging the situation in real time, I probably would have tossed him. Everyone was expecting this and it was pretty easy to believe it was intentional even if I might have just been a coincidence. This isn't the real issue imo. The issue is everything the Royals got away with up to this point. 100% should've been tossed. Benches were warned, can't go hit someone after that without getting ejected. If he was going to hit someone though it wouldn't be with a running sinker at the knees, it would've been a 4-seamer and higher. Just completely unfair to then go and suspend the guy after such a mismanaged game by Wolfe.
Dr Negative Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Good question. I feel like they SHOULD be able to but that's a labour question really. I am just thinking that it is similar to the Yunel Escobar situation, who was suspended by the Blue Jays, not by the MLB. Besides, I'd be mad at the MLB if they could suspend players for this because they could have spared us countless JPA at bats.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Probably. Players have a social media rules/guidelines that they are expected to follow I'm pretty sure those are team rules and not an mlb thing. Each team would have their own rules. Personally I'd keep my players away from it as much as possible. let some tech guy take care of their accounts. It would stop a lot of s*** from ever happening.
King Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I'm pretty sure those are team rules and not an mlb thing. Each team would have their own rules. Personally I'd keep my players away from it as much as possible. let some tech guy take care of their accounts. It would stop a lot of s*** from ever happening. I'm pretty sure you're dumn. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/14/major-league-baseball-releases-its-social-media-policy-and-its-pretty-good/ Part of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement reached last November was the implementation of a social media policy for players. They didn’t come up with one, actually, but they said they were going to. Now they have, and it was just forwarded to me. It’s in two parts, one for major leaguers and one for minor leaguers. It was accompanied by an explanatory memo. Here are some highlights, starting with the memo to all players on 40-man rosters, which starts out in a surprisingly refreshing way: While having a Social Media policy is important to protecting the interests of everyone involved in promoting the game, we hope that you will not view this policy as a blanket deterrent to engaging in social media. MLB recognizes the importance of social media as an important way for players to communicate directly with fans. We encourage you to connect with fans through Twitter, Facebook, and other social media platforms. Along with MLB’s extensive social media activities, we hope that your efforts on social media will help bring fans closer to the game and have them engaged with baseball, your club and you in a meaningful way. Given the trend in the NFL and especially in college sports of teams and coaches strongly discouraging the use of social media and even banning it in some instances, this is pretty spiffy. The memo goes on to tell players that they should use social media to interact with fans and to work on charity and promotional stuff. The memo goes on to tell players (a) that just because you’re using your smart phone doesn’t mean that what you say on social media is private; and ( to think before you tweet or post or whatever, because a statement on social media is no different than something said in a press conference. This is simple yet essential and I’ve been saying it for years. Almost all of the hand-wringing about social media out there is based on it being new and different and scary and oh my stars and garters. It’s not. Think of the Internet or your smart phone as a big microphone placed in the middle of town square and everything you say into it is heard by everyone. It’s that simple, and I’m glad to see MLB and the MLBPA recognizing this rather than demonizing an entire swatch of human interaction simply because it’s new. The policy itself is more of a legal document, but it basically consists of a list of ten prohibitions: Players can’t make what can be construed as official club or league statements without permission; Players can’t use copyrighted team logos and stuff without permission or tweet confidential or private information about teams or players, their families, etc.; Players can’t link to any MLB website or platform from social media without permission; No tweets condoning or appearing to condone the use of substances on the MLB banned drug list (which is everything but booze, right?); No ripping umpires or questioning their integrity; No racial, sexist, homophobic, anti-religious, etc. etc. content; No harassment or threats of violence; Nothing sexually explicit; Nothing otherwise illegal. That’s it. Not terribly restrictive, especially considering that many employers’ rules about this sort of thing are way more harsh. I don’t get the prohibition against linking MLB sites — note: you’re gonna want them to do this, MLB; it will be good for you — but everything else makes sense. Also note: no ban about ripping the media. So that should be fun. Finally, there is an enforcement clause saying that anyone who violates these rules is subject to discipline from the commissioner. Which, yeah, of course. I’m guessing that social media experts who think more about this kind of thing than I do will find some fault or weirdness here. But to my two eyes — two eyes that read an awful lot of social media each day — this seems like a totally reasonable and smart policy. And one which, in its encouragement of players to use social media is downright refreshing.
Virgil_Hiltz Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 http://giant.gfycat.com/CloseDisguisedFieldmouse.gif Look at the arm-side run on that pitch. It almost starts in the zone (almost). I find it highly unbelievable that Sanchez was trying to run it a foot in to his hip. Plus the half-assed attempt to avoid being hit. If he never got hit would Sanchez get suspended?
Dr Negative Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I think the rule against linking to MLB sites is some weird IP thing. The Toronto Pan-Am games did something similar.
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Plus the half-assed attempt to avoid being hit. If he never got hit would Sanchez get suspended? Just straightens his legs! haha
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Plus the half-assed attempt to avoid being hit. If he never got hit would Sanchez get suspended? lol 97 running in on your knees is pretty tough to avoid, he also tried to avoid it so im not sure what your talking about..
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I've got to say the sentiment that he was 'obviously trying to hit him' was on pretty shaky ground even before the GIF demonstrated the crazy run on that ball. Pretty weak evidence to hand a guy 3 games, no matter the situation.
birchy Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 http://giant.gfycat.com/CloseDisguisedFieldmouse.gif IMO.. the most telling thing here about intent is the fact that he IMMEDIATELY started to walk off the field when the ump gave him the "you're gone" gesture.. it wasn't until after a couple seconds that he turned around and decided to argue. That being said.. if none of the Royals get any suspensions.. it's absolutely insane, and MLB should be ashamed! Also... GO JAYS GO!!
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Mlb once again showing the anti Canadian bias
ColdPint Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Guys, obviously our Jays bias has led us to look at this situation incorrectly. These suspensions prove that the Jays were in fact the headhunting aggressors in this situation. The Royals were simply innocent bystanders and lucky enough to escape the game without injury.
LTR Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 IMO.. the most telling thing here about intent is the fact that he IMMEDIATELY started to walk off the field when the ump gave him the "you're gone" gesture.. it wasn't until after a couple seconds that he turned around and decided to argue. That being said.. if none of the Royals get any suspensions.. it's absolutely insane, and MLB should be ashamed! Also... GO JAYS GO!! Yeah that did look indicative
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 IMO.. the most telling thing here about intent is the fact that he IMMEDIATELY started to walk off the field when the ump gave him the "you're gone" gesture.. it wasn't until after a couple seconds that he turned around and decided to argue. That being said.. if none of the Royals get any suspensions.. it's absolutely insane, and MLB should be ashamed! Also... GO JAYS GO!! Watch again, his first reaction is to kind of tense up; like he's thinking oh s***, I got him. The ump then takes off his mask and Sanchez realizes he's gone and begins to walk off the field.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Serve the suspension during the 3 games against Oakland next week. Problem solved. Also, Sanchez should have never hit Escobar when he knew the ump was derpy as hell. It was still a close game and allowing a baserunner for no reason was stupid.
ColdPint Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Serve the suspension during the 3 games against Oakland next week. Problem solved. Also, Sanchez should have never hit Escobar when he knew the ump was derpy as hell. It was still a close game and allowing a baserunner for no reason was stupid. Once again, the predominant sentiment here is not outrage over the Sanchez suspension, it's the lack of any discipline whatsoever for the Royals. It's ludicrous that they're walking away the victims.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 So its okay to throw multiple times at the league mvp
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