Aaron Sanchez suspended three games

[o2cui2i]

Wok made a good point. They kind of had their hands tied by the actions of the ump. They couldn't really do anything to the Royals without showing him up (which I wish they would have anyways but I understand why they didn't).

 

saves having anything to do with the umpires union.

[Angrioter]

Gregor Chisholm

#BlueJays announce that Aaron Sanchez will appeal his three-game suspension.

[DuckDuckGose]

I have no problem with Sanchez being suspended and I don't think anyone here does either.

 

It's that Volquez, Madson, and Yost are getting off scot free.

 

I have a problem with both. Sanchez doesn't deserve a suspension. An ejection, like he got, is more than appropriate IMO.

[HERPDERP]

If I were the Jays I'd get Sanchez to accept the suspension and then make him available for the Yankee series.

 

It takes something like 5 days or so to get an appeal in, so you may end up with Sanchez being unavailable for 1-2 games in the Yankee series.

[KingKat]

If I were the Jays I'd get Sanchez to accept the suspension and then make him available for the Yankee series.

 

It takes something like 5 days or so to get an appeal in, so you may end up with Sanchez being unavailable for 1-2 games in the Yankee series.

 

It used to be that your appeal was heard as soon as you could make it to the league office in New York (so basically next road series against the Mets or Yankees or next home game if you were a member of those teams). It was a weird somewhat unfair system but one no one really seemed to mind either.

[DuckDuckGose]

Wok made a good point. They kind of had their hands tied by the actions of the ump. They couldn't really do anything to the Royals without showing him up (which I wish they would have anyways but I understand why they didn't).

 

Gibbons was the only one should've been suspended. Even if Sanchez hit him on purpose (and I don't even think it was intentional) it's very uncommon to receive a suspension for plunking a guy on his lower half. If he hit him in the head or threw behind him then sure suspend the kid but this is hypocrisy.

[KingKat]

Royals got nothing lol. Does MLB not realize they instigated the entire situation lol.

 

They probably do but the timing of the umpire's warning meant that technically only Sanchez was at fault.

[KingKat]

Gibbons was the only one should've been suspended. Even if Sanchez hit him on purpose (and I don't even think it was intentional) it's very uncommon to receive a suspension for plunking a guy on his lower half. If he hit him in the head or threw behind him then sure suspend the kid but this is hypocrisy.

 

Well lower half plunks are pretty rare to begin with so I'm not sure that's really relevant but in any case, the umpire tossed Sanchez for that lower half plunk and the league just followed protocol by adding a minimal suspension.

[DuckDuckGose]

They probably do but the timing of the umpire's warning meant that technically only Sanchez was at fault.

 

The warning warrants an ejection, why should Sanchez be suspended?

[LTR]

Just so it's perfectly clear: it's fair to throw at a players head as long as he gets out of the way (even after a warning is in place). This is good to know.

[AdamGreenwood]

The most telling thing in all of this is how we know that Sanchez threw at Escobar intentionally.

 

We know this, because given the circumstances, about 99% of the pitchers in the league would have done the same thing. Everyone at the RC expected Sanchez to throw at somebody.

That should be pretty indicative of the ******** that transpired prior to that moment.

[KingKat]

The warning warrants an ejection, why should Sanchez be suspended?

 

Because that's just what they do. Sanchez isn't getting any special treatment here.

[King]

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[Daniel Labude]

Just so it's perfectly clear: it's fair to throw at a players head as long as he gets out of the way (even after a warning is in place). This is good to know.

 

Unless you are a Blue Jay. Didn't Stroman get suspended last year and he didn't even hit the batter...I think it was an oriole.

[DuckDuckGose]

Well lower half plunks are pretty rare to begin with so I'm not sure that's really relevant but in any case, the umpire tossed Sanchez for that lower half plunk and the league just followed protocol by adding a minimal suspension.

 

There is nothing in the rulebook to suggest a mandatory suspension;

 

The pitcher shall not intentionally pitch at the batter.

 

If, in the umpire's judgment, such a violation occurs, the umpire may elect either to:

 

• Expel the pitcher, or the manager and the pitcher, from the game, or
  
• may warn the pitcher and the manager of both teams that another such pitch will result in the immediate expulsion of that pitcher (or a replacement) and the manager.
  

 

If he's suspended it's because of clear intent and there was none on this play. The lower half makes a big difference, the higher the ball the greater risk of injury. And even in the MLB rulebook it says; "To pitch at a batter's head is unsportsmanlike and highly dangerous. It should be - and is - condemned by everybody. Umpires should act without hesitation in enforcement of this rule."

 

So JD can be headhunted without retribution even though it is condemned by the league, yet a sinker gets away from Sanchez and he's suspended? it's BS.

[bendera3]

Sanchez isn't exactly known for his pinpoint control. He probably had no clue that ball was going to hit the guys knee.

[Virgil_Hiltz]

At first i thought the Royals not being suspended may have been advantageous for Jays if the Royals were playing the Yankees or the Orioles the next week or so but they don't!

 

Piss me off!

[Caper]

The most telling thing in all of this is how we know that Sanchez threw at Escobar intentionally.

 

We know this, because given the circumstances, about 99% of the pitchers in the league would have done the same thing. Everyone at the RC expected Sanchez to throw at somebody.

That should be pretty indicative of the ******** that transpired prior to that moment.

 

 

 

I honestly don't think he did. Sanchez cannot afford to walk anyone. He's always on the verge of unraveling.

[DuckDuckGose]

Because that's just what they do. Sanchez isn't getting any special treatment here.

 

It's only what happens in situations with clear intent. That wasn't the case.

[LTR]

"To pitch at a batter's head is unsportsmanlike and highly dangerous. It should be - and is - condemned by everybody. Umpires should act without hesitation in enforcement of this rule."

 

This is the part that's a completely f***ing joke to me.

[DuckDuckGose]

Unless you are a Blue Jay. Didn't Stroman get suspended last year and he didn't even hit the batter...I think it was an oriole.

 

Ya, but he threw behind a guy. He deserved it.

[pickoff22]

I honestly don't think he did. Sanchez cannot afford to walk anyone. He's always on the verge of unraveling.

 

It was intentional. There's little debate over that, him always being on the verge of unraveling doesn't matter when you know you're gonna be ejected anyways. And I accept the suspension, but to not hand something out to Volquez after his comments......and nothing to Ventura after his threats to Bats is absurd

[DuckDuckGose]

This is the part that's a completely f***ing joke to me.

 

Me too. If everyone was suspended I'd move on but to single out Sanchez is a joke.

[KingKat]

Sanchez isn't exactly known for his pinpoint control. He probably had no clue that ball was going to hit the guys knee.

 

Ball was very far inside. I don't think it's crazy to think that Sanchez intentionally intended to plunk him in the butt and missed the location a little.

[Ehjays]

MLB should review the game in its entirety and see how badly the ump let that game get out of hand.

[LTR]

MLB should review the game in its entirety and see how badly the ump let that game get out of hand.

 

Hands-down agree with this. I'm still fuming about it.

[KingKat]

It's only what happens in situations with clear intent. That wasn't the case.

 

As soon as the umpired tossed him it retroacticely became a clear intent situation regardless of what our own interpretation might be.

[KingKat]

MLB should review the game in its entirety and see how badly the ump let that game get out of hand.

 

Agreed. While they might not throw him under the bus publicly, I hope to hell they let him know what a s***** job he did privately.

[DuckDuckGose]

As soon as the umpired tossed him it retroacticely became a clear intent situation regardless of what our own interpretation might be.

 

The benches were warned. It doesn't have to be an intentional HBP for an ejection at that point.

[BTS]

Nothing for Volquez? That's bad. Even Ventura could have got some time for threatening to throw at Bautista over twitter.