Fuentes: BlueJays showing strong interest in Mike Fiers.

[BigCecil]

Can't acquire Gomez. It would upset team morale. Gomez/Pillar each want CF.

 

Pillar would have to STFU and move over to LF and give us an insane upgrade in outfield defense.

 

You don't just move a guy who has been one of the best (if not the best) CFs in the game to LF.

 

LOL, Saunders isn't coming back

 

maybe. Got any report on that you can share? http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/update/25230240/blue-jays-of-michael-saunders-still-not-close-to-returning

 

ok..then let Pillar play every day in LF.

[Daniel Labude]

Any chance AA has something big in the works and is using this interest rumor as a misdirection to keep things quite until the deal is done.

[Angrioter]

The defensive metrics sometimes lie, and needs 5 years to stabilize

[Dr. Dinger]

Kevin Kiermaier is a god

 

With the most beautiful eyes in baseball <3333

[Angrioter]

Any chance AA has something big in the works and is using this interest rumor as a misdirection to keep things quite until the deal is done.

 

Yeah. Maybe AA trade for the Indians whole rotation for prospects.

[Dr. Dinger]

Not as beautiful as John Jaso's hair

 

Truly disgusting and wrong.

[Frenchsoup]

Just looking at the top 30 pitchers on fangraphs by xfip there is only one who has had tj and he has regressed a lot.

[Angrioter]

Not as beautiful as John Jaso's hair

 

Are you maricon?

 

Kiermaier is the handsome dude in the world. That eyes burns like the sun.

[Laika]

Fiers is very good. 3.1 fWAR and a 3.12 ERA in his last 178.2 major league innings (2014-2015).

 

If the rumour is true, and it seems plausible, then I think you can count Toronto out for all of the big rentals. They are probably looking at more controllable players without big 2015 salaries.

 

Non-Rental Targets

 

Tyson Ross - $5.2M salary - controllable through 2017.

Jesse Chavez - $2.2M salary - controllable through 2016.

Andrew Cashner - $4M salary - controllable through 2016.

Jon Niese - $7M salary - controllable through 2018 (two team options).

 

The list isn't very long though. Hard to find guys that fit the bill.

 

Shields and Hamels - controllable BUT expensive.

 

Jose Quintana and Alex Wood - controllable BUT expensive in terms of prospects.

 

Gallardo, Haren, Colon, Leake - Not controllable, particularly sexy, or cheap in terms of $$, but wouldn't cost a very good prospect.

[Dr. Dinger]

Are you maricon?

 

Kiermaier is the handsome dude in the world. That eyes burns like the sun.

 

If he was a maricon, he'd realize how beautiful KK is.

[Angrioter]

If he was a maricon, he'd realize how beautiful KK is.

 

Like you and me?

[burlingtonbandit]

We don't really know what the cost would be, and who could we realistically say that we can trade for that is better? It's nice to think that hypothetically every player is available for a fair package, but a lot of high value players simply aren't on the block.

 

Seth Smith, Jay Bruce, Will Venable... A platoon OF is really all they need considering the heavy RH lineup. Have to remember Gomez will not be seeing nearly as many LHP in Toronto as he would somewhere else. And with Pillar in CF you don't really need a CF this season.

[Dr. Dinger]

Like you and me?

 

I didn't know you were, but upon reflection it's making a lot of sense.

[Dr. Dinger]

Seth Smith, Jay Bruce, Will Venable... A platoon OF is really all they need considering the heavy RH lineup. Have to remember Gomez will not be seeing nearly as many LHP in Toronto as he would somewhere else. And with Pillar in CF you don't really need a CF this season.

 

If we acquired Gomez, there's no way he'd be losing ABs to Valencia and Colabello. Pillar would.

[Laika]

Just looking at the top 30 pitchers on fangraphs by xfip there is only one who has had tj and he has regressed a lot.

 

A lot more than one of them have had TJS

[Orgfiller]

Just looking at the top 30 pitchers on fangraphs by xfip there is only one who has had tj and he has regressed a lot.

 

There's more than one, deGrom and Cole have both had TJS in the past, Pineda and Brett Anderson have had significant injuries, including TJS for the latter. There are probably more that I'm missing.

[burlingtonbandit]

Fiers is very good. 3.1 fWAR and a 3.12 ERA in his last 178.2 major league innings (2014-2015).

 

If the rumour is true, and it seems plausible, then I think you can count Toronto out for all of the big rentals. They are probably looking at more controllable players without big 2015 salaries.

 

Non-Rental Targets

 

Tyson Ross - $5.2M salary - controllable through 2017.

Jesse Chavez - $2.2M salary - controllable through 2016.

Andrew Cashner - $4M salary - controllable through 2016.

Jon Niese - $7M salary - controllable through 2018 (two team options).

 

The list isn't very long though. Hard to find guys that fit the bill.

 

Shields and Hamels - controllable BUT expensive.

 

Jose Quintana and Alex Wood - controllable BUT expensive in terms of prospects.

 

Gallardo, Haren, Colon, Leake - Not controllable, particularly sexy, or cheap in terms of $$, but wouldn't cost a very good prospect.

 

Tyson Ross would be really nice. That GB rate would be perfect for Toronto where the Turf takes away a few hits. Ross isn't an ace but he is close.

[Dr. Dinger]

A lot more than one of them have had TJS

 

Jose Fernandez already looks like a Top 3 pitcher in baseball again, TJS works just fine for many pitchers.

[Orgfiller]

Tyson Ross would be really nice. That GB rate would be perfect for Toronto where the Turf takes away a few hits. Ross isn't an ace but he is close.

 

He's very good but from what I've read (on this forum) his mechanics are awful and a big red flag.

[Angrioter]

Tyson Ross would be really nice. That GB rate would be perfect for Toronto where the Turf takes away a few hits. Ross isn't an ace but he is close.

 

Ross is a bomb awaiting to explode. Injury prone.

[Frenchsoup]

There's more than one, deGrom and Cole have both had TJS in the past, Pineda and Brett Anderson have had significant injuries, including TJS for the latter. There are probably more that I'm missing.

 

You sure about Cole and Degrom? Pineda and Anderson had labrums i believe. All i am saying is that there seems to be diminished returns on tj'ers.

[HERPDERP]

If we acquired Gomez, there's no way he'd be losing ABs to Valencia and Colabello. Pillar would.

 

Gomez > Pillar > Portobello > Valencia.

 

Portobello/Valencia/Smoak would be a DH platoon which isn't quite efficient roster management.

[Frenchsoup]

Jose Fernandez already looks like a Top 3 pitcher in baseball again, TJS works just fine for many pitchers.

 

Let him pitch a full year not just 2 starts.

[Frenchsoup]

There's more than one, deGrom and Cole have both had TJS in the past, Pineda and Brett Anderson have had significant injuries, including TJS for the latter. There are probably more that I'm missing.

 

you are right about those 2 though.

[Dr. Dinger]

Jose Fernandez just came back from Tommy John throwing harder than ever, getting more whiffs than ever, more groundballs than ever, and has only walked 1 batter in 19 IP. Likewise, Matt Harvey's post-TJS stuff is completely intact.

[burlingtonbandit]

If we acquired Gomez, there's no way he'd be losing ABs to Valencia and Colabello. Pillar would.

 

I know. He would be losing Abs vs LHP based on the fact he won't be seeing as many LHP in Toronto. Down the stretch teams aren't going to start the average Lefties vs Toronto like what Baltimore did.

[Dr. Dinger]

Let him pitch a full year not just 2 starts.

 

Why? It's plenty of sample to analyze his velocity and whiff %. The stuff is not only intact, it's improved.

[Angrioter]

Let him pitch a full year not just 2 starts.

 

Fernández is in another level. Best pitcher in baseball very soon.

[Trouba95]

I'd like to know what it'd take for us to bring Yovani G if Texas falls out of the WC race...

[jays4life19]

I'd like to know what it'd take for us to bring Yovani G if Texas falls out of the WC race...

 

He kinda sucks. So hopefully not much.