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Should John Gibbons be retained for 2016?  

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  1. 1. Should John Gibbons be retained for 2016?

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    • No
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    • Only if Blue Jays win World Series
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Why do people think that someone has to be fired or sent to AAA to "send a message"? Its idiotic... The team knows they're playing like s***. No need to "send a message", they're likely more angry than we are at the losses.
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Gibbons will have until at least the all star break. Shatkins is probably semi-glad they're losing so they can blow it up and rebuild in their image.

 

With the impending free agency of Bautista and Encarnacion, they were going to have to make changes anyways so I don't see what's so great about not winning in the interim and since the Martin and Tulo deals aren't going anywhere, it's not like a full rebuild is even possible. There's no reason for this team to be in anything other than win-now mode and even next year should be more about a re-tooling in a more sustainable way than tearing it down.

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I'll bet against you on that

 

If he isn't fired by next Sunday I will not post in any thread except for the Homerun Contest for a week....cause imo that means we would have started winning games again, probably at least 5

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With the impending free agency of Bautista and Encarnacion, they were going to have to make changes anyways so I don't see what's so great about not winning in the interim and since the Martin and Tulo deals aren't going anywhere, it's not like a full rebuild is even possible. There's no reason for this team to be in anything other than win-now mode and even next year should be more about a re-tooling in a more sustainable way than tearing it down.

 

We have enough good pieces going forward we should be able to re-tool or go for win now mode for at least the next 5-7 years

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If he isn't fired by next Sunday I will not post in any thread except for the Homerun Contest for a week....cause imo that means we would have started winning games again, probably at least 5

 

Do everyone a favour and make it a year

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LOL

 

Letting Goins hit for himself is just f***ing lol

 

he had to bring Martin in the game anyways, since he pinched hit Dominguez for Thole.

 

Do people realize how f***ing stupid this is. Goins vs LHP

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It is difficult to defend Goins batting in that situation but it just indicates how bad Martin has been. Martin has almost a 50% strike out percentage.
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It is difficult to defend Goins batting in that situation but it just indicates how bad Martin has been. Martin has almost a 50% strike out percentage.

 

So you are saying that Gibby relies on one month of poor batting data vs a lifetime of success

 

Even Barney is a plus in that situation. Anyways it doesn't matter team has too many broken f***ing chains

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Why do people think that someone has to be fired or sent to AAA to "send a message"? Its idiotic... The team knows they're playing like s***. No need to "send a message", they're likely more angry than we are at the losses.

 

Changing a laid back manager like Gibbons can sometimes change the atmosphere in the dugout.....right now this team looks like they expect to lose imo.

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Barney would have been a better choice. There must be something wrong with Martin's health otherwise he would have played the entire game.
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Barney would have been a better choice. There must be something wrong with Martin's health otherwise he would have played the entire game.

 

While I know he is hurt it's hard for me to believe that he cant swing the bat but can do the much harder job of catching

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While I know he is hurt it's hard for me to believe that he cant swing the bat but can do the much harder job of catching

 

Martin has struck out in 46.3% of plate appearances this season and has looked very bad while doing it - http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4616&position=C

 

As someone with back pain, Martin looks very stiff to me and that could explain his hitting problems. It wouldn't surprise me if Martin is soon put on the DL.

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Doesn't have Goins bunt 1-1 game, man on 1st, no outs, 7th inning

 

Then has Carrera, not Martin, pinch hit for Thole

 

Gibby an idiot

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Doesn't have Goins bunt 1-1 game, man on 1st, no outs, 7th inning

 

Then has Carrera, not Martin, pinch hit for Thole

 

Gibby an idiot

 

Especially considering that just yesterday we won BC he pinched hit for Goins and the day before we lost because he didn't pinch hit for Goins

 

Anyways EE Bautista and Tulo all look finished. There is no putting make up on this pig. Let's please tank and start over

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Goins is not a MLB player, so let's blame him for the manager playing him everyday when there is an option on the bench that is better.

 

Makes sense.

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Goins is not a MLB player, so let's blame him for the manager playing him everyday when there is an option on the bench that is better.

 

Makes sense.

 

This is a blame Gibbons thread...your post makes no sense.

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Osuna in the 8th when losing. Then we walk it off. Very few managers make that move. Especially not "old school" managers.

 

It was dumb, but not bunting Pillar to 3rd with 0 outs was worse. If Gibby kept Osuna in for the 9th it's a good move...bringing in a guy who hasn't pitched in a week and is an after thought in the pen, was not smart...but we won so it doesn't matter

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It was dumb, but not bunting Pillar to 3rd with 0 outs was worse. If Gibby kept Osuna in for the 9th it's a good move...bringing in a guy who hasn't pitched in a week and is an after thought in the pen, was not smart...but we won so it doesn't matter

 

He's saying it's a good move. Which it was. Using your closer in a tough, non-save situation is something more managers should do.

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It was dumb, but not bunting Pillar to 3rd with 0 outs was worse. If Gibby kept Osuna in for the 9th it's a good move...bringing in a guy who hasn't pitched in a week and is an after thought in the pen, was not smart...but we won so it doesn't matter

 

*facepalm*

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He's saying it's a good move. Which it was. Using your closer in a tough, non-save situation is something more managers should do.

 

Yes it was, but only using him for 1 batter was not.

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