SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 too submissive generally. i prefer more feistiness Well, you need to start sleeping with Asians that are older than 18.
guylaroche5 Verified Member Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 lol RealAccountant was sucking off Kevin Cash during the entire GDT and yet Gibby's decision to keep Colabello won the game, hindsight warriors are awfully quiet today
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 lol RealAccountant was sucking off Kevin Cash during the entire GDT and yet Gibby's decision to keep Colabello won the game, hindsight warriors are awfully quiet today Yes I underestimated Gibbons His plan to keep Cola in the game so that he would hit a home run was pure genius
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/9UbeI1L.gif
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Yes I underestimated Gibbons His plan to keep Cola in the game so that he would hit a home run was pure genius Yeah, it's almost like the players matter more than the manager. Astounding!
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Smoak riding pine again! Fire this f***ing manager for Christ sakes.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Smoak riding pine again! Fire this f***ing manager for Christ sakes. Perhaps because Smoak is batting .217/.280/.478 in June? Plus, with Collabello and Valencia outplaying him, and Carrera being at least a decent option in LF, Smoak doesn't deserve to play every day.
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Perhaps because Smoak is batting .217/.280/.478 in June? Plus, with Collabello and Valencia outplaying him, and Carrera being at least a decent option in LF, Smoak doesn't deserve to play every day. But if you use logic and reasoning it makes it harder to blame Gibby for anything and everything
CrackerJack Verified Member Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Smoak riding pine again! Fire this f***ing manager for Christ sakes. even Justin doesn't think he should be starting ahead of Collabello right now.
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Perhaps because Smoak is batting .217/.280/.478 in June? Plus, with Collabello and Valencia outplaying him, and Carrera being at least a decent option in LF, Smoak doesn't deserve to play every day. He's got a wRC+ 105 on a .296 babip and Bello has wRC+ of 115 with a babip of .407. Not even factoring in the defense i know who I'd take, you guys are monkeys like Gibbons.
LTR Verified Member Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 He's got a wRC+ 105 on a .296 babip and Bello has wRC+ of 115 with a babip of .407. Not even factoring in the defense i know who I'd take, you guys are monkeys like Gibbons. People seem to think Smoak is a superior defender... he's better then Edwin and he's still below average. Smoak brings the ability to pick the balls but his range is bad. I've seen nothing to say Colabello is worse @ 1B, yet. Colabello's offensive projections have surpassed Smoak's.
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 People seem to think Smoak is a superior defender... he's better then Edwin and he's still below average. Smoak brings the ability to pick the balls but his range is bad. I've seen nothing to say Colabello is worse @ 1B, yet. Colabello's offensive projections have surpassed Smoak's. Yes yes yes but again if we use logic and reasoning then how are we going to be able to needlessly bash Gibby?
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 Gibbons has Redmond ahead in his depth chart of Hendriks Yesterday in a 10 run game, he throws Hendriks out there Today down 4 (And reachable by this team's standards) he puts Redmond out there to get a semi-important out.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 Its not whether or not this move works out. Thats irrelevant. Its the nature of the move made that bothers me. Yesterday was the game you use Redmond. Today 4 down with our lineup, you do whatever it takes to not give up another run. That means using your middle relievers. This is a bad bad move and exposes the fact that at the end of the day, John Gibbons does not think ahead. Those things are beyond him. Like AA he is playing it by the day.
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 u guys sick of seeing navarro at dh yet?
glory Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I can take solace in the fact that Ned Yost and John Farrell were the last two managers that represented the AL in the World Series, so the Jays can still win with the Wobbly Redneck and his managerial incompetence calling the shots. They'll just have to outscore teams by huge margins to avoid too many close game situations (where Gibbons is outmanaged on a nightly basis).
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Just thought I would add to the thread...top 8, Nats up by just one run. Pitcher spot up, so Matt Williams (moy) pinch hits den Dekker for Strasburg (even though Stras is likely better at bunting) and has him try to bunt the leadoff runner to second. He fails to bunt twice and then strikes out. Moral: even rock-bottom retards like Matt Williams can win MOY with a good team.
BigBopper Verified Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Enough with this crap...he know jack crap about managing a team If he didnt have the the players he has he would be long gone,AA should follow close behind.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 If he didnt have the the players he has he would be long gone,AA should follow close behind. So would any other manager.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I dont understand why Boxcar keeps mentioning single worst incidents of game management in order to convince us that Gibby is not bad.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted June 28, 2015 Author Posted June 28, 2015 Just thought I would add to the thread...top 8, Nats up by just one run. Pitcher spot up, so Matt Williams (moy) pinch hits den Dekker for Strasburg (even though Stras is likely better at bunting) and has him try to bunt the leadoff runner to second. He fails to bunt twice and then strikes out. Moral: even rock-bottom retards like Matt Williams can win MOY with a good team. Different league, different team, struggling offense...injured pitcher just back from the DL.....lol
Nafro Verified Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 My guess would be because Gibby is not that bad. All managers make mistakes...All have a negligible effect on the outcome of most games. You all have the advantage of hindsight...You say you would have made the same decisions that work. However wouldn't have made the decisions that don't work. I'm as guilty of it as anyone. That's the great thing about being a fan, instead of the one's playing the game or making the decisions.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 u guys sick of seeing navarro at dh yet? It makes me barf seeing Navarro Dh'ing vs. RHP and Smoak on the bench.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 It makes me barf seeing Navarro Dh'ing vs. RHP and Smoak on the bench. That is really pissing me off. With Edwin nursing that shoulder there is no reason he needs to be diving for balls when we have a better hitter than Navarro (.677 OPS) and better D than Edwin on the bench.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Gibby made two good relief moves today. First he pulled hutch before he could give up the big hit, second he put Osuna in for the 4 out save Credit where Credit is due.
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Gibby made two good relief moves today. First he pulled hutch before he could give up the big hit, second he put Osuna in for the 4 out save Credit where Credit is due. You could have argued Loup should have been in the batter before to face Gallo, so no it wasn't a good move.
FrozenRopes Verified Member Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 So 437 bad to 24 good... I don't like the ratio. He seems like a good players coach but a bad game management coach.
KIllerSloth Verified Member Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 I dont understand why Boxcar keeps mentioning single worst incidents of game management in order to convince us that Gibby is not bad. Yeah it's irrelevant and pointless. Cherry picking at it's worst.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Maybe if you guys weren't idiots it would make more sense.
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