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  1. 1. Should John Gibbons be retained for 2016?

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Brilliant line-up construction today, unconventional, but he did exactly what he needed to do to win. I have it on good authority that he gave Navarro a truly League Of Their Ownesque speech to inspire his performance at the plate. Also, he made sure that Hutchinson was okay, but not great, so that the Rays would feel that they had a chance, just to be sporting.

 

Seriously, an incredible performance from the manager today, the team was actually a total afterthought. If he had done exactly the same thing with a team of 12 year olds, the results would have been the same, because that's just how good a manager he is!

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Brilliant line-up construction today, unconventional, but he did exactly what he needed to do to win. I have it on good authority that he gave Navarro a truly League Of Their Ownesque speech to inspire his performance at the plate. Also, he made sure that Hutchinson was okay, but not great, so that the Rays would feel that they had a chance, just to be sporting.

 

Seriously, an incredible performance from the manager today, the team was actually a total afterthought. If he had done exactly the same thing with a team of 12 year olds, the results would have been the same, because that's just how good a manager he is!

 

Hahahaha............*crickets*

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So if I'm to be clear, LTBF and the brigade of...people...were whining about losing a game the Jays won before it was over?
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So if I'm to be clear, LTBF and the brigade of...people...were whining about losing a game the Jays won before it was over?

 

What do the stats say, W/Ls are meaningless....tell me about the stats

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I was point out if we got swept one game in September wouldn't matter....wow some people on here

 

All hail your Dogg, right, Dogg...

 

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For those of you who might have been too young to remember

TORONTO -- After Shea Hillenbrand wrote on the clubhouse

bulletin board that the "ship was sinking," Toronto Blue Jays

manager John Gibbons challenged him to a fight.

 

 

"He challenged me to a fight, and wanted me to get up and punch him in the face," Hillenbrand told FAN 590 in Toronto.

 

There was no brawl, but the tense relationship between the two

reached the breaking point during a team meeting Wednesday night.

Gibbons was adamant that he would've quit if Hillenbrand wasn't

cut.

 

"That's a fact. That's how the whole thing got started,"

Gibbons said before Thursday night's game against the Yankees. "I

told him he won't see the field as long as I'm here."

 

The Blue Jays designated Hillenbrand for assignment during the

game, giving them 10 days to trade, release or send him outright to

the minors.

 

Hillenbrand was batting .301 with 12 homers, 15 doubles and 39

RBI. Known as an extremely intense player, he has moved from

Boston to Arizona to Toronto. He had a $5.8 million contract for

this season.

 

"I believe we'll have five or six teams interested in Shea,"

said his agent, Dan Lozano.

 

The Blue Jays, who spent millions in the offseason to build a

contender, began the day six games behind Boston in the AL East.

 

Hillenbrand had been upset because he felt the Blue Jays were

not sensitive that he needed several days to complete the adoption

of a baby girl on the West Coast over the weekend. The designated

hitter and corner infielder was not in the starting lineup when he

returned.

 

Earlier Wednesday, Hillenbrand wrote "play for yourself" on a

board the Blue Jays use to post batting practice times. He later

wrote the "ship was sinking" and Gibbons confronted him.

 

"Gibby called a team meeting and then he stood up and reamed me

out in front of my teammates," Hillenbrand told The Toronto Star.

"I'm very disappointed about what he did and I find it very

unprofessional."

 

Gibbons acknowledged he challenged Hillenbrand to a fight.

 

"He had a chance yesterday to defend himself in front of his

coaches and his teammates. He chose not to," Gibbons said.

 

Gibbons said someone was done in Toronto -- him or Hillenbrand.

 

"If the front office felt differently than he wins and I lose,

and I would be the one out of here," Gibbons said. "I mean it. It was

either him or me."

 

Asked if Hillenbrand did it because he wanted out, Gibbons said:

"I know he wanted to get out. That's no secret. To be honest I

don't think he really wanted to be here for the last two years."

 

"You're either with us or you're not," he said. "He got his

wish. It's that simple."

 

Said Lozano, the agent: "From everything Shea told me of the

situation, I think it all could've been avoided had it been handled

differently."

 

Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi was getting acupuncture

treatment and had eight needles in his back when he learned what

Hillenbrand wrote.

 

Ricciardi agreed that Hillenbrand had go to.

 

"We are a better team without him," Ricciardi said. "I would

rather lose than sell myself out to have someone play here that

says those type of things about organization."

 

Ricciardi objected that Hillenbrand said there isn't a winning

atmosphere in Toronto. He added, "Gibby's job is more secure than

it's ever been."

 

Ricciardi said he wasn't surprised by Hillenbrand's behavior --

Hillenbrand once called Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein a

derogatory term for homosexuals.

 

"He made some pretty disparaging remarks when he left Boston. I

don't think people forgot that," Ricciardi said.

 

"I don't think his behavior is inconsistent with what his

reputation has been. People knew the deal," he said. "The cards

are on the table, so if someone wants Shea Hillenbrand we'll try to

make a deal. Enough clubs called today."

 

With the trade deadline approaching July 31, Ricciardi said he's

looking for a pitcher than can help this year.

 

Information from The Associated Press

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What do the stats say, W/Ls are meaningless....tell me about the stats

 

didn't the Jays...win?

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didn't the Jays...win?

 

But the stats....the stats....we can't have analysis with the stats

 

 

Seriously though glad we won and Gibby was short with the hook on some of the pitchers

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All hail your Dogg, right, Dogg...

 

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For those of you who might have been too young to remember

TORONTO -- After Shea Hillenbrand wrote on the clubhouse

bulletin board that the "ship was sinking," Toronto Blue Jays

manager John Gibbons challenged him to a fight.

 

 

"He challenged me to a fight, and wanted me to get up and punch him in the face," Hillenbrand told FAN 590 in Toronto.

 

There was no brawl, but the tense relationship between the two

reached the breaking point during a team meeting Wednesday night.

Gibbons was adamant that he would've quit if Hillenbrand wasn't

cut.

 

"That's a fact. That's how the whole thing got started,"

Gibbons said before Thursday night's game against the Yankees. "I

told him he won't see the field as long as I'm here."

 

The Blue Jays designated Hillenbrand for assignment during the

game, giving them 10 days to trade, release or send him outright to

the minors.

 

Hillenbrand was batting .301 with 12 homers, 15 doubles and 39

RBI. Known as an extremely intense player, he has moved from

Boston to Arizona to Toronto. He had a $5.8 million contract for

this season.

 

"I believe we'll have five or six teams interested in Shea,"

said his agent, Dan Lozano.

 

The Blue Jays, who spent millions in the offseason to build a

contender, began the day six games behind Boston in the AL East.

 

Hillenbrand had been upset because he felt the Blue Jays were

not sensitive that he needed several days to complete the adoption

of a baby girl on the West Coast over the weekend. The designated

hitter and corner infielder was not in the starting lineup when he

returned.

 

Earlier Wednesday, Hillenbrand wrote "play for yourself" on a

board the Blue Jays use to post batting practice times. He later

wrote the "ship was sinking" and Gibbons confronted him.

 

"Gibby called a team meeting and then he stood up and reamed me

out in front of my teammates," Hillenbrand told The Toronto Star.

"I'm very disappointed about what he did and I find it very

unprofessional."

 

Gibbons acknowledged he challenged Hillenbrand to a fight.

 

"He had a chance yesterday to defend himself in front of his

coaches and his teammates. He chose not to," Gibbons said.

 

Gibbons said someone was done in Toronto -- him or Hillenbrand.

 

"If the front office felt differently than he wins and I lose,

and I would be the one out of here," Gibbons said. "I mean it. It was

either him or me."

 

Asked if Hillenbrand did it because he wanted out, Gibbons said:

"I know he wanted to get out. That's no secret. To be honest I

don't think he really wanted to be here for the last two years."

 

"You're either with us or you're not," he said. "He got his

wish. It's that simple."

 

Said Lozano, the agent: "From everything Shea told me of the

situation, I think it all could've been avoided had it been handled

differently."

 

Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi was getting acupuncture

treatment and had eight needles in his back when he learned what

Hillenbrand wrote.

 

Ricciardi agreed that Hillenbrand had go to.

 

"We are a better team without him," Ricciardi said. "I would

rather lose than sell myself out to have someone play here that

says those type of things about organization."

 

Ricciardi objected that Hillenbrand said there isn't a winning

atmosphere in Toronto. He added, "Gibby's job is more secure than

it's ever been."

 

Ricciardi said he wasn't surprised by Hillenbrand's behavior --

Hillenbrand once called Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein a

derogatory term for homosexuals.

 

"He made some pretty disparaging remarks when he left Boston. I

don't think people forgot that," Ricciardi said.

 

"I don't think his behavior is inconsistent with what his

reputation has been. People knew the deal," he said. "The cards

are on the table, so if someone wants Shea Hillenbrand we'll try to

make a deal. Enough clubs called today."

 

With the trade deadline approaching July 31, Ricciardi said he's

looking for a pitcher than can help this year.

 

Information from The Associated Press

 

No idea why you replied to me with this.

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So if I'm to be clear, LTBF and the brigade of...people...were whining about losing a game the Jays won before it was over?

 

I don't think any of us thought this lineup would score that many runs. Most people were complaining/questioning resting so many guys in the same game. It worked out...

 

TBH I was surprised that Gibbons decided to rest so many guys, but they are not exactly going to come out and say guys are injured and now we are fresher for the game against a better pitcher tomorrow.

 

all comes out in the wash

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But the stats....the stats....we can't have analysis with the stats

 

 

Seriously though glad we won and Gibby was short with the hook on some of the pitchers

 

So you're getting upset because I like baseball and want a deeper understanding? Ok.

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So you're getting upset because I like baseball and want a deeper understanding? Ok.

 

Dude, I'm screwing with you. The same way everyone does with me. You always care about advanced stats yet now you care about W/Ls

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Dude, I'm screwing with you. The same way everyone does with me. You always care about advanced stats yet now you care about W/Ls

 

I like how you think that the point of advanced statistics is to do something that isn't maximize winning.

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I like how you think that the point of advanced statistics is to do something that isn't maximize winning.

 

I like how you keep making up s*** that I don't say....it just keeps spewing out your mouth...must taste awful

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Dude, I'm screwing with you. The same way everyone does with me. You always care about advanced stats yet now you care about W/Ls

 

W/L are a useless stat in evaluating a pitcher, but the only stat that is important for a team

Jays Centre Contributor
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W/L are a useless stat in evaluating a pitcher, but the only stat that is important for a team

 

 

Yes.....I think you have missed the long standing debate I have going with Boxy

Old-Timey Member
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I like how you keep making up s*** that I don't say....it just keeps spewing out your mouth...must taste awful

 

Maximum dumn

Community Moderator
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Yes.....I think you have missed the long standing debate I have going with Boxy

 

actually no I have not missed it. I'm just trying to get the conversation peaceful and less disagreeable. lol

Jays Centre Contributor
Posted
actually no I have not missed it. I'm just trying to get the conversation peaceful and less disagreeable. lol

 

Awesome...I'm out for tonight have a great day!

Posted
Yes.....I think you have missed the long standing debate I have going with Boxy

 

I'm not aware of any debate.

Jays Centre Contributor
Posted
I'm not aware of any debate.

 

I have a different opinion but no one wants to have a civil debate anymore...we can have one tomorrow if you would like. Have a good night

Posted
Dude, I'm screwing with you. The same way everyone does with me. You always care about advanced stats yet now you care about W/Ls

 

Take it to the Sex with Asians thread!

Posted
For the record, I have found Asians pretty awesome in bed. Generally. So I agree with you.

 

Deadpool is right.

 

too submissive generally. i prefer more feistiness

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