what player's should we trade for pitching

[bluebird]

Just thought i would throw it out there and see who you guy's would be fine with to lose for pitching.I will start off with navarro, goins ,dickey,saunders

[Zaun of the Dead]

that would get you a decently mediocre pitcher

[ScientificReason]

Just thought i would throw it out there and see who you guy's would be fine with to lose for pitching.I will start off with navarro, goins ,dickey,saunders

 

We need to give up a lot more then that to get a decent pitcher.

[bluebird]

that would get you a decently mediocre pitcher

goin's defense and fatty's bat though

[GD]

Goins is a top 5 shortstop you don't trade that

[Mikeleelop]

Just thought i would throw it out there and see who you guy's would be fine with to lose for pitching.I will start off with navarro, goins ,dickey,saunders

 

U can't throw out your s*** and hope to catch anything of value.

[MunenoriKawasakiMVP]

Nobody is going to give a 3rd starter at least for those. I'd be willing to give up one or even two (If the pitcher is controlable for a few year) of Castro, Osuna and Norris. Also, we could give up Pompey if it's really worthwhile because Alford looks like a good option for the future too. I'd do Chapman and Cueto for Castro, Norris and Tepera with the Reds. That would be a trade that would really help us in the bullpen and Cueto would likely keep similar numbers due to the fact that he is already pitching in a sandbox. It could also turn in the advantage of the Reds if Castro and Norris fully pan out

[GD]

lol so much for the trade deadline thread

[bluebird]

Nobody is going to give a 3rd starter at least for those. I'd be willing to give up one or even two (If the pitcher is controlable for a few year) of Castro, Osuna and Norris. Also, we could give up Pompey if it's really worthwhile because Alford looks like a good option for the future too. I'd do Chapman and Cueto for Castro, Norris and Tepera with the Reds. That would be a trade that would really help us in the bullpen and Cueto would likely keep similar numbers due to the fact that he is already pitching in a sandbox. It could also turn in the advantage of the Reds if Castro and Norris fully pan out

This offense is so good i wouldn't mind if they guted the farm system for a starter .This might be our only chance to win a title in the next 100 years

[jays4life19]

lol so much for the trade deadline thread

 

I know eh! I made that thread 6 beers deep at like midnight. So much effort for nothing! lol

[Deadpool]

This offense is so good i wouldn't mind if they guted the farm system for a starter .This might be our only chance to win a title in the next 100 years

 

I knew it was a bad idea for Rogers to ban goats from the Rogers Centre...

[RealAccountant]

that would get you a decently mediocre pitcher

 

In what world?

[RealAccountant]

Nobody is going to give a 3rd starter at least for those. I'd be willing to give up one or even two (If the pitcher is controlable for a few year) of Castro, Osuna and Norris. Also, we could give up Pompey if it's really worthwhile because Alford looks like a good option for the future too. I'd do Chapman and Cueto for Castro, Norris and Tepera with the Reds. That would be a trade that would really help us in the bullpen and Cueto would likely keep similar numbers due to the fact that he is already pitching in a sandbox. It could also turn in the advantage of the Reds if Castro and Norris fully pan out

 

Don't think that convo starts without Hoffman

[bluebird]

Don't think that convo starts without Hoffman

works for me he's no good to the jays 3 years from now when our bats suck

[RealAccountant]

works for me he's no good to the jays 3 years from now when our bats suck

 

hmmm where have i heard that before, 3 years ago....

[Abomination]

Imo we don't add to the starting pitching unless it's a cheaper acquisition cost salary dump by someone. We should be able to get a fairly decent reliever or two without subtracting one of our top arms though.

 

We have our rotation set up for the future with Stroman, Hoffman, Norris, Sanchez, Hutch, and a few other guys who could go to either starting or relieving. I don't want to see us mortgage that for a shot at the post season, then spend another 10 years rebuilding.

 

We know from experience it's nearly impossible to get top starting pitchers to come to Toronto, even if we're willing to overpay them. Build the pitching from within, and buy the bats (especially after they remove the turf).

[bluebird]

Imo we don't add to the starting pitching unless it's a cheaper acquisition cost salary dump by someone. We should be able to get a fairly decent reliever or two without subtracting one of our top arms though.

 

We have our rotation set up for the future with Stroman, Hoffman, Norris, Sanchez, Hutch, and a few other guys who could go to either starting or relieving. I don't want to see us mortgage that for a shot at the post season, then spend another 10 years rebuilding.

 

We know from experience it's nearly impossible to get top starting pitchers to come to Toronto, even if we're willing to overpay them. Build the pitching from within, and buy the bats (especially after they remove the turf).

That's depressing ,give's me no hope for world title this year

[RealAccountant]

^ Matt Garza is a guy I'd like to see the Jays go out and get. Theyd be taking on his 2016 and 2017 years as well, but he is only 31. He hasn't pitched that well this year, so the Brewers might be willing to let him go to a team that takes on the contract.

 

Unless he has a no trade clause.

[P2F]

^ Matt Garza is a guy I'd like to see the Jays go out and get. Theyd be taking on his 2016 and 2017 years as well, but he is only 31. He hasn't pitched that well this year, so the Brewers might be willing to let him go to a team that takes on the contract.

 

Unless he has a no trade clause.

 

Eww.

[jays4life19]

Imo we don't add to the starting pitching unless it's a cheaper acquisition cost salary dump by someone. We should be able to get a fairly decent reliever or two without subtracting one of our top arms though.

 

We have our rotation set up for the future with Stroman, Hoffman, Norris, Sanchez, Hutch, and a few other guys who could go to either starting or relieving. I don't want to see us mortgage that for a shot at the post season, then spend another 10 years rebuilding.

 

We know from experience it's nearly impossible to get top starting pitchers to come to Toronto, even if we're willing to overpay them. Build the pitching from within, and buy the bats (especially after they remove the turf).

 

I think Ian Kennedy could come pretty cheap if SD falls out of it.

 

I posted my thoughts in the ahem....trade thread. http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/4916-2015-Trade-Deadline-Targets-Thread

[Ziggyy108]

^ Matt Garza is a guy I'd like to see the Jays go out and get. Theyd be taking on his 2016 and 2017 years as well, but he is only 31. He hasn't pitched that well this year, so the Brewers might be willing to let him go to a team that takes on the contract.

 

Unless he has a no trade clause.

 

The Brewers might be willing to let him go???

 

Lol they would be so god damn happy to shed his salary

 

If we really only do have limited funds then Garza would be a disaster

[burlingtonbandit]

I think Ian Kennedy could come pretty cheap if SD falls out of it.

 

I posted my thoughts in the ahem....trade thread. http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/4916-2015-Trade-Deadline-Targets-Thread

 

Not sure Ian Kennedy is the answer. He gives up a ton of hard contact and coming to the Al East and RC from SafeCo and the NL West likely won't work too well. If its just a salary dump I'll take on the rest of the contract and plug him in as the number 5 but he's pretty similar to Estrada. Jays need a number 2/3 not a back end guy

[Abomination]

^ Matt Garza is a guy I'd like to see the Jays go out and get. Theyd be taking on his 2016 and 2017 years as well, but he is only 31. He hasn't pitched that well this year, so the Brewers might be willing to let him go to a team that takes on the contract.

 

Unless he has a no trade clause.

 

Yeah, Garza could work. Maybe Colon (who I believe has been rumored to be very available), maybe Harang. Those type of guys are who we should be chasing imo.

 

Maybe Cliff Lee if he manages to get in some rehab games before the trade deadline and looks good, although that option year for next year is kind of painful (as is the buyout).

[jays4life19]

Not sure Ian Kennedy is the answer. He gives up a ton of hard contact and coming to the Al East and RC from SafeCo and the NL West likely won't work too well. If its just a salary dump I'll take on the rest of the contract and plug him in as the number 5 but he's pretty similar to Estrada. Jays need a number 2/3 not a back end guy

 

2014: 31.5% Hard% (3.5 fWAR season)

2015 31.2% Hard%

 

...His 20%+ HR/FB is not going to continue. He should be pretty decent going forward.

[ElNik2013]

Imo we don't add to the starting pitching unless it's a cheaper acquisition cost salary dump by someone. We should be able to get a fairly decent reliever or two without subtracting one of our top arms though.

 

We have our rotation set up for the future with Stroman, Hoffman, Norris, Sanchez, Hutch, and a few other guys who could go to either starting or relieving. I don't want to see us mortgage that for a shot at the post season, then spend another 10 years rebuilding.

 

We know from experience it's nearly impossible to get top starting pitchers to come to Toronto, even if we're willing to overpay them. Build the pitching from within, and buy the bats (especially after they remove the turf).

 

 

Jays4Life16 made a similar post and suggested Ian Kennedy and that seems about right. Agreed with both. I'm not into this window thing, let's focus on a sustainable model, which is what AA talked about before he gained so much weight.

 

Your point about how difficult it is for the Jays to attract top FA SP is also a good one and I hope AA doesn't make another Marlins/Dickey trade because of it.

[ElNik2013]

I think Ian Kennedy could come pretty cheap if SD falls out of it.

 

I posted my thoughts in the ahem....trade thread. http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/4916-2015-Trade-Deadline-Targets-Thread

 

 

 

That was a good thread and should've made this thread unnecessary. It was probably derailed by the jokes about the mistake on the original title (i.e. "2016" instead of "2015").

 

 

Definitely agree on targeting Ian Kennedy types. Sort of like McCarthy last year.

[ElNik2013]

What about one of the Mets starters? What would it take to get a guy like Niese?

[Horses Fart]

R.A. Dickey and Josh Thole for Noah Syndergaard.

 

s*** disturber. Lol lol.

[Deadpool]

works for me he's no good to the jays 3 years from now when our bats suck

 

We have Donaldson under control for 4 years...

[RealAccountant]

What about one of the Mets starters? What would it take to get a guy like Niese?

 

They are leading their division