Jays Media

[Qwerty]

I am a huge Jays homer and support them through the worst.

 

But if theres anything that makes me angry - it's the positive "spinning" of losses in headlines.

 

I am a subscriber of MLBTV and I follow the Jays on Facebook. Every headline for losses is complete bunk.

 

I understand it depends on the news source, but I will say I live in NYC and when the teams lose here, nobody sugar coats it.

 

Some negative media spin might be good for these Jays. They need to be held accountable for losing.

 

Thank you

[Qwerty]

One more thing. I hate the yankees as much as the last guy, but when the yanks are sucking, Michael Kay won't suggest otherwise.

[glory]

 

1992 Devon White: 93 wRC+

2015 Kevin Pillar: 56 wRC+

 

You are expecting idiots like this to be objective?

[Qwerty]

No. I am expecting them not to say anything positive in a headline when the team loses. I dont read the articles nor do most people.

 

 

1992 Devon White: 93 wRC+

2015 Kevin Pillar: 56 wRC+

 

You are expecting idiots like this to be objective?

[Olerud363]

 

1992 Devon White: 93 wRC+

2015 Kevin Pillar: 56 wRC+

 

You are expecting idiots like this to be objective?

 

That was the fake wilner right?? My god not the real Wilner.

[Praxis]

If you want any kind of objective coverage on the Jays you might as well forget Sportsnet, as they work for the owners and are hardly likely to pan their own product/content.

 

TSN will, to some extent at least, tell it like it is.

[glory]

That was the fake wilner right?? My god not the real Wilner.

 

I literally unfollowed him after that Tweet. I hope it was the fake Wilner too. No one should be paid to follow baseball and write s*** like that.

[Atothe]

I literally unfollowed him after that Tweet. I hope it was the fake Wilner too. No one should be paid to follow baseball and write s*** like that.

 

He gargles the balls of Blue Jays executives and players

[Olerud363]

I literally unfollowed him after that Tweet. I hope it was the fake Wilner too. No one should be paid to follow baseball and write s*** like that.

 

Wow. This is tremendously bad.

 

Devon white had a career 98 ops+. In his Toronto Years he had a .327 on base percentage. He had a .319 career on base percentage.

 

From 91 to 93 he hit fairly well. 15-20 homer pop. Great base-running. Averaged 100 runs a year. 92 was the poorest of the 3 years. But he had a .330ish on base percentage those 3 years combined.

 

There is an argument to be made that he shouldn't of hit 1st. And people made that argument. It doesn't matter to much how you make the lineup.

 

Kevin Pillar has a .260ish career on base percentage. .260ish this year. He has hit 5th-7th most of this year.

 

White's true talent on base percentage was about .330 in 1992... (meaning in his late 20s he was a .330ish guy, just underperfoming that year).

 

Kevin Pillar's "true talent" on base percentage may be about .280ish if we boost him up a bit from his minor league numbers (say he's underperformed a bit so far)

 

It is ludicrous, beyond belief, beyond honesty, beyond basic dignity to claim that White did more damage.

[CJ-Freeway]

 

1992 Devon White: 93 wRC+

2015 Kevin Pillar: 56 wRC+

 

You are expecting idiots like this to be objective?

 

Holy f***ing s***... Is this real life?? Never listening to this Wilner clown again.

[Olerud363]

Devon White was a switch hitter with as even of splits as you could ever wish for.

 

Kevin Pillar is a right handed hitter who hits .220 with a .250 on base percentage against righties.

 

If you platooned him as to minimize the damage he still would be doing more damage then Devon White, because he would still only have a .299 on base percentage.

 

Ok lets look at the number of plate appearances each will get. That is how much damage was White causing hitting leadoff??

 

Let's say Pillar is going to get 100 plate appearances less than White. So for 100 plate appearances White has to be compared to Josh Donaldson. Josh Doshaldson will get on base 3 times more and hit another homer.

 

In 500 or more plate appearances White has to be compared to Pillar. White will get on base 30 times more, hit more homers, steal more bases, blah, blah, blah.

 

How does this math work exactly??

[BlueJayWay]

That was the fake wilner right?? My god not the real Wilner.

We've reached the point where the fake wilner and the real wilner look at each other and can't tell who is who.

[ScientificReason]

Meh media in Canada care more about a coach hire for the Leafs then the Jays

[SaskJaysFan_2]

I am a huge Jays homer and support them through the worst.

 

But if theres anything that makes me angry - it's the positive "spinning" of losses in headlines.

 

I am a subscriber of MLBTV and I follow the Jays on Facebook. Every headline for losses is complete bunk.

 

I understand it depends on the news source, but I will say I live in NYC and when the teams lose here, nobody sugar coats it.

 

Some negative media spin might be good for these Jays. They need to be held accountable for losing.

 

Thank you

 

I get what you're saying, and I know there is some homerism, but sometimes Davidi laces the Jays situation pretty harshly. And Zaunie is always a contrarian. So, there is some impartiality (is that a word? It sounds correct) out there in the Sportsnet world.

[Spanky__99]

One more thing. I hate the yankees as much as the last guy, but when the yanks are sucking, Michael Kay won't suggest otherwise.

 

Try reading the local sport news articles, you'll be pleased I assume?