TheHurl Site Manager Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 So much dumn. Let the Ball Fly...seriously don't waste the moderators time. We take enough s***, reporting someone calling you dumn is going to get you a day this time. Be a f***ing man, or get the f*** out.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 If Hoffman is as good as the reports, he isn't going anywhere until he increases his value by dominating A+ Maybe part of a trade deadline deal but hope not
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) Let the Ball Fly...seriously don't waste the moderators time. We take enough s***, reporting someone calling you dumn is going to get you a day this time. Be a f***ing man, or get the f*** out. I don't like you talkng to a good guy like JG34 like that Hurl, watch yourself or I'll report everyone Edited April 24, 2015 by Atothe
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 At this point I like Hoffman more because after hearing about his rehab going well I think he has less risk than a 18 year old from Mexico that hasn't pitched in college. Right now Hoffman's floor is where Gerrit Cole is right now. Urias has a higher risk level because he doesn't have the command Hoffman does. I'd rather stick with the polished Hoffman over Urias. Seem to forget Hoffman has already blown out his elbow.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 At this point I like Hoffman more because after hearing about his rehab going well I think he has less risk than a 18 year old from Mexico that hasn't pitched in college. Right now Hoffman's floor is where Gerrit Cole is right now. Urias has a higher risk level because he doesn't have the command Hoffman does. I'd rather stick with the polished Hoffman over Urias. Hear that guys? Worst case scenario, Hoffman is a borderline ace. I'd put his median projection as somewhere around prime Pedro Martinez.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Hear that guys? Worst case scenario, Hoffman is a borderline ace. I'd put his median projection as somewhere around prime Pedro Martinez. I haven't been as confident about someone's projection for a player since David Cooper's .800 OPS floor.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I haven't been as confident about someone's projection for a player since David Cooper's .800 OPS floor. Haha, I thought he would stick but boy was I wrong
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Hoffman should have been a top 3 pick last year if not the top pick. Holy s***
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Guys, I wouldn't trade Hoffman for Mike Trout. Mike wasn't even a top 5 pick! Hoffman would have been a top 3 pick if not for his elbow blowing out.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Probably the least outrageous thing he said ITT. I know but making a comparison based on *probable* draft position *had he not suffered a major injury before even signing* is still worthy of a shout out.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Guys, I wouldn't trade Hoffman for Mike Trout. Mike wasn't even a top 5 pick! Hoffman would have been a top 3 pick if not for his elbow blowing out. Agree. But than reason Almora > your avatar
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Interesting Question who you take if you had the choice (just the player no bonus or anything): Hoffman or Aiken?
TheHurl Site Manager Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I don't like you talkng to a good guy like JG34 like that Hurl, watch yourself or I'll report everyone I was talking to let the ball fly who I banned for reporting jg
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Hoffman's floor is where Cole is right now lol. Im pretty pumped up about this
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 f*** you guys, Hoffman is a god. http://i.imgur.com/GkHkVKq.gif?1 Thank you for all of the erections, spats. You are beautiful. Also, #FreeLetTheBallFly #LetItSoarEven
flafson Verified Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 The guy is yet to pitch and you give him a floor of an ace?
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 The guy is yet to pitch and you give him a floor of an ace? At minimum..... GOAT is very possible
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 f*** you guys, Hoffman is a god. http://i.imgur.com/GkHkVKq.gif?1 Thank you for all of the erections, spats. You are beautiful. Also, #FreeLetTheBallFly #LetItSoarEven Are you saying that God can throw a 98 MPH fastball with deception? Hoffman can.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 I love Hoffman too. His ceiling is glorious... And my guess is that most of the boners are semi-excited and semi-exaggeration. A lot of us thought Norris was going to step in and be right up there with Hutch for the Jays best starter this season... And it still may happen... But we can all see that it isn't as easy as we'd like it to be. I still think within 3 years (barring trade), Hoffman will be our best starter (yes... Even better than Stro)... But nothing's a sure thing. If nothing else though, I'm glad we have him instead of someone else. In 3 years from now Stroman will be our cloZa, Boyd 5th SP, Sanchez in AAA trying to hit a piñata with a hockey stick
Mikeleelop Verified Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 in two years (maybe next year) Hoffman, Stroman, Hutch, Norris, Osuna Castro, Sanchez in pen
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 in two years (maybe next year) Hoffman, Stroman, Hutch, Norris, Osuna Castro, Sanchez in pen Castro in the pen is a waste. Stilson and Sanchez, among others in the pen. Castro in rotation, Osuna swingman. The 6th starter typically starts ~20 games in a season.
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Castro in the pen is a waste. Stilson and Sanchez, among others in the pen. Castro in rotation, Osuna swingman. The 6th starter typically starts ~20 games in a season. Stilson isn't very good boss
Mikeleelop Verified Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 lots of pitching options coming from the minors!
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 I think Osuna will be a better starter than Castro We will see how it plays out.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Stilson isn't very good boss Was hurt last year. Was very good in 2013, 9K/9, 0.6 HR/9 in AAA. Recovery going well, according to reports. Could be a Sept callup
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Was hurt last year. Was very good in 2013, 9K/9, 0.6 HR/9 in AAA. Recovery going well, according to reports. Could be a Sept callup You left out his 4.25 SIERRA and his 4.76 bb/9, i don't think he's that bad but he's around a 4 ERA guy imo
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 I would be more excited about Matt West if i were you
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 You left out his 4.25 SIERRA and his 4.76 bb/9, i don't think he's that bad but he's around a 4 ERA guy imo 2013 his BB/9 was 2.85 in 33 games in AAA. Not looking at his 2014 stats, he was pitching hurt... surgery in august 2014
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 I would be more excited about Matt West if i were you There's a 2 year age diff
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