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GDT(2/3): Your Toronto Blue Jays @ Baltimore Orioles - Sanchez v Jimenez - 7:05 PM ET


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I'm saying something like Hoffman for Hamels could be the difference maker and its not like its a horrible thing in 2016 either when we lose Dickey, Buehrle. Hoffman is not a guarantee, no prospect is.

 

 

I'm pretty sure it'll take more than Hoffman and I don't think the Jays have the payroll room for Hamels's salary.

 

 

Can't just ignore those 2 factors.

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I doubt he was in their price range. Plus, I thought we were discussing starters.

 

My bad...don't think there was very many starters that were even considering us this offseason.

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I'm pretty sure it'll take more than Hoffman and I don't think the Jays have the payroll room for Hamels's salary.

 

 

Can't just ignore those 2 factors.

 

I doubt starting the year with a bunch of rookies was AA's plan A

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I'm saying something like Hoffman for Hamels could be the difference maker and its not like its a horrible thing in 2016 either when we lose Dickey, Buehrle. Hoffman is not a guarantee, no prospect is.

 

Hamels is already getting paid, If AA traded Hoffman for somebody with more surplus value it would be cool.

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My bad...don't think there was very many starters that were even considering us this offseason.

 

 

Especially guys trying to rebuild their value. The opposite is true for hitters, i.e. Smoak, Barton and Dirks.

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How can we make it so Sanchez is no longer on this team?

 

I can tell you how I can make it so you are no longer on this forum?

Posted
Liam Hendriks actually pitching well.. I think we know that Redmond is probably gone after this outing..

That's because Liam Hendriks is good. Hopefully he's making starts soon.

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I can tell you how I can make it so you are no longer on this forum?

Just do it. I added him to my ignore list but everyone replies to his posts because they're so bad.

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Not sure what you mean?

 

I'm sure AA was trying to get something else done in the off season, but the price was too much for the pieces he wanted and he had to go with the kids. I doubt he went into the off season saying... HMMM it's a good idea to have a bunch kids on the team because we dont need any solid vets.

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How can we make it so Sanchez is no longer on this team?

 

Moving a top piece for Hamel's to move Sanchez to the pen would be a win move IMO. Worst case you have Stroman back next year with Hamel's, Hutch and Norris as a starting point. You bullpen has Sanchez, Castro, Osuna, Cecil as a base if they aren't moved in the deal. Upgrade 2 areas with 1 stone.

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Buck and Tabby are right too many young unproven kids on jays pitching staff

 

Last I checked we have 2 losses because the veterans suck at this point....Sanchez wasn't good but only gave up 3 runs...should have been in the game.

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I'm sure AA was trying to get something else done in the off season, but the price was too much for the pieces he wanted and he had to go with the kids. I doubt he went into the off season saying... HMMM it's a good idea to have a bunch kids on the team because we dont need any solid vets.

 

Oh I agree, but I thought you said the opposite on your post, probably a typo.

 

There's no doubt in my mind the payroll parameters changed after the bad 2013 season. Only way to make changes was to lower payroll which is what AA did this past off season. Anyway....first stinker, let's not overreact.

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Oh I agree, but you said the opposite on your post, probably a typo.

 

There's no doubt in my mind the payroll parameters changed after the bad 2013 season. Only way to make changes was to lower payroll which is what AA did this past off season. Anyway....first stinker, let's not overreact.

 

hopefully the clubhouse has some hand sanitizer so they can wash the s*** stink off and move on to a better game tomorrow.

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jays heart not in it now.... ugly game all around. the positive is that it will be over soon.

 

There are going to be game like this. If we continue to see the Jays play 4 out of 5 games like they have so far we will be in fine shape this year.

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Oh I agree, but I thought you said the opposite on your post, probably a typo.

 

There's no doubt in my mind the payroll parameters changed after the bad 2013 season. Only way to make changes was to lower payroll which is what AA did this past off season. Anyway....first stinker, let's not overreact.

 

I think AA felt comfortable enough with the rookies to not pay for upgrades.

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61cyngi just bought himself a full contact f*** off. anyone else want one while I handing them out?

 

 

some people just beg for it.

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There are going to be game like this. If we continue to see the Jays play 4 out of 5 games like they have so far we will be in fine shape this year.

 

sure, but it's not just the pitching. lots of ugly swings, some dropped balls and all around bad play. one game... get em tomorrow.

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I think AA felt comfortable enough with the rookies to not pay for upgrades.

 

yeah.. he's a bad GM for sure.

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I think AA's plan was one of Estrada, Sanchez or Norris as the 5th starter, move Navarro for pen help. Stroman going down really hurt, and teams not wanting Navarro's salary meant AA was in a tough spot with no money. He was pretty much forced to give young arms a long look but I don't think it was plan A. Still should have kept Delabar and stretched out Osuna though IMO.
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I think AA felt comfortable enough with the rookies to not pay for upgrades.

 

Again, depends who you're talking about and at what price range. The Jays even had to overpay for a Canadian position player, imagine a FA pitcher.

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