Predict the rookies #'s...

[TheHurl]

6 rookies have come north with the team...most of them drawn polarizing responses from the board. I think we need some documentation. Predict their fWAR for the season and PA's for hitters, IPs for pitchers. Feel free to include any other stats/numbers you wish.

 

Pitchers

 

Norris 182 IP - 2.5 fWAR

Sanchez 61 IP - 0.2 fWAR (okay start...bad run in May)

Castro 44 IP - 0.2 fWAR

Osuna 12 IP - -0.2 fWAR

 

Batters

 

Travis 470 PA - 1.1 fWAR

Pompey 155 PA - 0 fWAR (70 wRC...positive defense)

 

Total - 3.8.

 

My gut feel is to go higher on Norris but tempering my expectations.

[tercet]

Sanchez will have more IP because the Jays will stick with him until Santana is ready... and he will be an average reliever rest of the year.. I'd say he somewhere around -0.5 WAR

 

No way travis is gonna get 470PA, and Pompey will be 1.5~ war over 450PA.

[ElNik2013]

Osuna lost weight bro, no need to continue the hate.

[TheHurl]

Osuna lost weight bro, no need to continue the hate.

 

I'm coming around. Jays have been known to make knee jerk transactions when it comes to relievers. I think his leash is short than all of them...two bad outings in a row and the "Clearly Rushed" one will be in the minors.

[Laika]

Pitchers

 

Norris 195 IP - 3.2 fWAR

Sanchez 105 IP - 1.2 fWAR (moves to pen and is good there)

Castro 80 IP - 2.0 fWAR (elite setup all year)

Osuna 100 IP - 2.0 fWAR (gets some starts in the second half and holds his own)

 

Batters

 

Travis 600 PA - 2.5 fWAR

Pompey 600 PA - 1.5 fWAR (defense + patience. Low average)

 

Blue Jays win the World Series and everyone on this list gets ROY votes but Norris wins it after winning 20 games.

 

Also Jeff Hoffman pitches in the playoffs and is WS MVP.

[BTS]

Norris = 160 IP 1.7 fWAR

Castro = 45 IP 0.3 fWAR

Osuna = 35 IP 0.1 fWAR

Sanchez = 70 IP -0.3 fWAR

 

Pompey = 550 PA 1.6 fWAR

Travis = 350 PA 1.1 fWAR

Edited April 4, 2015 by BTS

[Jimcanuck]

Norris = 150 IP 2.1 fWAR

Sanchez = 105 IP 1.2 fWAR

Castro = 60 IP 0.6 fWAR

Osuna = 50 IP 0.4 fWAR

 

Pompey = 350 PA 1.6 fWAR

Travis = 400 PA 2.8 fWAR

DJS = 80 PA 0.2 fWAR

[Angrioter]

Norris = 160 IP 1.7 fWAR

Castro = 45 IP 0.3 fWAR

Osuna = 35 IP 0.1 fWAR

 

Pompey = 550 PA 1.6 fWAR

Travis = 350 PA 1.1 fWAR

 

Sanchez?

[Angrioter]

Pitchers

Norris = 175 IP 2.8 fWAR

Sanchez = 97 IP 0.6 fWAR (Bullpen or minors)

Castro = 52 IP 0.9 fWAR

Osuna = 50 IP 0.8 fWAR

 

Hitters

Travis = 450 PA 1.7 fWAR

Pompey = 490 PA 1.2 fWAR

[BTS]

Sanchez?

 

Forgot him. Below replacement over like 70 IP.

[Atothe]

Forgot him. Below replacement over like 70 IP.

 

Maybe but I believe he ends up in the bullpen and produces a 0.7 war out of the pen. Estrada providing a 1.0 war the rest of the way

[Atothe]

Good swing by DSJ

[BTS]

Maybe but I believe he ends up in the bullpen and produces a 0.7 war out of the pen. Estrada providing a 1.0 war the rest of the way

 

I think Estrada is going to surprise people. I could see him approaching 2 wins as starter or finding his way into a high-leverage role as a reliever.

[Atothe]

I think Estrada is going to surprise people. I could see him approaching 2 wins as starter or finding his way into a high-leverage role as a reliever.

 

I think Sanchez will get at least a month

[Daniel Labude]

Pitchers

Norris = 190 IP 4.0 fWAR

Sanchez = 180 IP 2.9 fWAR

Castro = 60 IP 1.5 fWAR

Osuna = 50 IP 1.0 fWAR

 

Hitters

Travis = 500 PA 3.5 fWAR

Pompey = 510 PA 2.5 fWAR

[Angrioter]

Pitchers

Norris = 190 IP 4.0 fWAR <-------- CY caliber season?

Sanchez = 180 IP 2.9 fWAR

Castro = 60 IP 1.5 fWAR

Osuna = 50 IP 1.0 fWAR

 

Hitters

Travis = 500 PA 3.5 fWAR <------- MVP caliber season?

Pompey = 510 PA 2.5 fWAR

 

Alex, are you there?

[Daniel Labude]

Alex, are you there?

 

I think Travis will have a great season hitting and if Norris can limit the walks...anything is possible

 

Not extemely realistic, but fun projection

[frizzer1]

I know fWAR is more important, but predicting more traditional stats is more fun for me:

 

Norris: 160 IP, 3.40 ERA, 145K, 1.22 WHIP

Sanchez: 150 IP, 4.28 ERA, 110K, 1.38 WHIP

Osuna: 60 IP, 2.85 ERA 75K, 1.10 WHIP

Castro: 60 IP, 3.15 ERA 80K, 1.10 WHIP

Pompey: 500 AB .255/.300/.385 9 HR, 25 SB

Travis: 400 AB .280/.320/.400 8 HR 10 SB

 

flame away

 

Mostly agree.

Disagree about Sanchez and Osuna...Sanchez lack of command will elevate his ERA and Osuna will end up back in the minors to develop, where he belongs..

[Atothe]

Mostly agree.

Disagree about Sanchez and Osuna...Sanchez lack of command will elevate his ERA and Osuna will end up back in the minors to develop, where he belongs..

 

I think Osuna ends up in the rotation somehow and has a decent rookie season

[Boxcar]

Pitchers

Norris = 190 IP 4.0 fWAR

Sanchez = 180 IP 2.9 fWAR

Castro = 60 IP 1.5 fWAR

Osuna = 50 IP 1.0 fWAR

 

Hitters

Travis = 500 PA 3.5 fWAR

Pompey = 510 PA 2.5 fWAR

 

This is some deep homerism.

[RealAccountant]

They will all be back in AAA by May

[Boxcar]

Norris 170 IP 1.9 WAR

Sanchez 110 IP 0.3 WAR

Castro 60 IP 0.3 WAR

Osuna 60 IP 0.3 WAR

 

Pompey 500 PA 2.5 WAR

Travis 500 PA 2.1 WAR

 

A little bullish on Pompey but I think everything else is on point.

[Spanky99]

6 rookies have come north with the team...most of them drawn polarizing responses from the board. I think we need some documentation. Predict their fWAR for the season and PA's for hitters, IPs for pitchers. Feel free to include any other stats/numbers you wish.

 

Pitchers

 

Norris 182 IP - 2.5 fWAR

Sanchez 61 IP - 0.2 fWAR (okay start...bad run in May)

Castro 44 IP - 0.2 fWAR

Osuna 12 IP - -0.2 fWAR

 

Batters

 

Travis 470 PA - 1.1 fWAR

Pompey 155 PA - 0 fWAR (70 wRC...positive defense)

 

Total - 3.8.

 

My gut feel is to go higher on Norris but tempering my expectations.

 

You suck!!

[theblujay]

Norris 180IP. 3 WAR

Sanchez 170IP. 2.2 WAR

Castro 75 IP. 1.0 WAR

Osuna 80 IP. 1.2 WAR

 

Pompey 550PA. 2.8 WAR

Travis 500PA. 2.0 WAR

[Spanky99]

Sanchez will have more IP because the Jays will stick with him until Santana is ready... and he will be an average reliever rest of the year.. I'd say he somewhere around -0.5 WAR

 

No way travis is gonna get 470PA, and Pompey will be 1.5~ war over 450PA.

 

Attagirl...dumn dumn!

[Spanky99]

Pitchers

 

Norris 195 IP - 3.2 fWAR

Sanchez 105 IP - 1.2 fWAR (moves to pen and is good there)

Castro 80 IP - 2.0 fWAR (elite setup all year)

Osuna 100 IP - 2.0 fWAR (gets some starts in the second half and holds his own)

 

Batters

 

Travis 600 PA - 2.5 fWAR

Pompey 600 PA - 1.5 fWAR (defense + patience. Low average)

 

Blue Jays win the World Series and everyone on this list gets ROY votes but Norris wins it after winning 20 games.

 

Also Jeff Hoffman pitches in the playoffs and is WS MVP.

 

YES...it's about f***ing time someone gets real....

[Spanky99]

I know fWAR is more important, but predicting more traditional stats is more fun for me:

 

Norris: 160 IP, 3.40 ERA, 145K, 1.22 WHIP

Sanchez: 150 IP, 4.28 ERA, 110K, 1.38 WHIP

Osuna: 60 IP, 2.85 ERA 75K, 1.10 WHIP

Castro: 60 IP, 3.15 ERA 80K, 1.10 WHIP

 

Pompey: 500 AB .255/.300/.385 9 HR, 25 SB

Travis: 400 AB .280/.320/.400 8 HR 10 SB

 

flame away

 

WooHoo!!

[Spanky99]

I think Estrada is going to surprise people. I could see him approaching 2 wins as starter or finding his way into a high-leverage role as a reliever.

 

He better, after f***ing losing Lind, in that God Awful trade.

[Spanky99]

They will all be back in AAA by May

 

Well said, Dogg.

[Daniel Labude]

He better, after f***ing losing Lind, in that God Awful trade.

 

It was a bad trade...but it wasn't made for value it was made to get rid a perceived clubhouse problem