Catcher framing redux

[LTR]

JTIS. This table ranks catcher framing from 2012-2014 by framing runs added per chance (RPC) and per game (RPG). This is a better rank of framing ability compared to just looking at yearly totals on BP (which is more an indicator of playing time).

 

Martin is a good framer but he ranks 17 out of 150.

 

Rene Rivera, Hank Conger, Jose Molina, and Christian Vazquez are easily the best framers in the game right now.

 

To Martin's credit he also ranks 4th in total framing runs added over the last 3 years because of the surplus playing time.

 

FC - Framing Chances

XS - Extra Strikes

RA - Total Runs Added

 

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Edited March 19, 2015 by LTR

[Orgfiller]

Josh Donaldson is a better framer than Navarro and Salvador Perez. I think we may have just found our backup catcher.

[LTR]

Erik Kratz top 21 catcher

 

By framing alone, yes... he's almost as good as Martin.

[GD]

This is also useful with DRS. DRS/chance and even UZR/chance (UZR/150 doesn't capture certain guys getting more chances/game) paint a better picture as a whole. Then you can put it into a + format with league average as 100 so that you're not staring at a bunch of decimals.

[Deadpool]

Guillermo Quiroz is on this list? He's still kicking around?

[LTR]

Guillermo Quiroz is on this list? He's still kicking around?

 

Looks like it

[Orgfiller]

Wow, Evan Gattis is an above average framer, didn't expect that.

 

An interesting thing to wonder is how many of these guys on both ends of the spectrum are aware of the importance of framing pitches. We know guys like Lucroy, Martin, the Molinas etc. are all guys who take pride in their framing; but then you have good overall defensive catchers like Sal Perez or Christian Bethancourt who have probably never been told to attempt to receive the ball better because they excel in other areas of catching.

 

Heck, even Arencibia was once an awful framer before someone suggested to work on that aspect and now he's above-average.

Edited March 19, 2015 by Orgfiller

[LTR]

Wow, Evan Gattis is an above average framer, didn't expect that.

 

An interesting thing to wonder is how many of these guys on both ends of the spectrum are aware of the importance of framing pitches. We know guys like Lucroy, Martin, the Molinas etc. are all guys who take pride in their framing; but then you have good overall defensive catchers like Sal Perez or Christian Bethancourt who have probably never been told to attempt to receive the ball better because they excel in other areas of catching.

 

Heck, even Arencibia was once an awful catcher before someone suggested to work on that aspect and now he's above-average.

 

Gattis is a pretty good framer. He tailed off last year though (you can see year-by-year framing stats on BP).

 

It’s a good question, Navarro seems to have no clue about his framing or lackthereof.

 

Arencibia really did improve his framing since 2013 (credit to Don Wakamatsu maybe?). But looks like he is too dumb to focus on another thing as his offense suffered at the same time.

[HERPDERP]

Donaldson had 11 AB as a catcher in 2012? wat.

[flafson]

Thole is very good according to this list...

[LTR]

Thole is very good according to this list...

 

Other than sample size I don't think there's anything to dispute.

[Maahfaace]

Gattis is a pretty good framer. He tailed off last year though (you can see year-by-year framing stats on BP).

 

It’s a good question, Navarro seems to have no clue about his framing or lackthereof.

 

Arencibia really did improve his framing since 2013 (credit to Don Wakamatsu maybe?). But looks like he is too dumb to focus on another thing as his offense suffered at the same time.

 

I'm shocked JP is so high on this list, I just thought he was awful at framing.

[GD]

47 isn't really high. There are 30 starting jobs out there. So if you're like a mid-level backup framer, can't play defense, can't hit, can't do anything else really, you start to see where his shittiness comes from.

[Orgfiller]

Donaldson had 11 AB as a catcher in 2012? wat.

 

Donaldson was originally a catcher. He converted to 3B.