Fangraphs Top 200 Prospects

[jaysfan2014]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-fangraphs-top-200-prospect-list/

 

A number of Jays listed, including Sanchez, Norris and Pompey.

[G-Snarls]

17. Daniel Norris, LHP, Toronto Blue Jays

 

Fastball: 55/60, Curveball: 55/60, Slider: 50/55, Changeup: 45/50+,Command: 45/50+, FV: 60

Scouting Report: Norris was a well-known prospect coming out of a Tennessee high school, both for his above-average stuff dating back to his sophomore year, as well as his troublesome delivery. He slipped to the second round in 2011, but the Jays scooped him up at the 74th overall pick with a $2 million bonus. The Jays development staff a couple years to clean everything up and unlock Norris’ athleticism, but he shot from High-A to the big leagues in 2014 alongside CF Dalton Pompey (#80 on this list). Norris runs his fastball up to 96 mph with above average to plus off-speed pitches and good feel to pitch; there’s #2/3 starter upside and he likely won’t spend much more time in the minors.

 

67. Jeff Hoffman, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays

 

Fastball: 60/70, Curveball: 55/65, Changeup: 50/55, Command: 40/50+, FV: 55

Scouting Report: Hoffman was a known power arm for the 2014 draft at East Carolina, then he broke out in the summer before the draft on the Cape (see linked video), flashing an 80 fastball and 65 or 70 curveball from an athletic delivery, projectable frame and shockingly good feel to pitch given the power stuff. He didn’t look the same in the spring, as just as he was making adjustments to his delivery to regain form, his elbow popped and he won’t return until until mid-season in 2015. Even with the surgery taking Hoffman out of #1 overall pick contention, the Jays thought he wouldn’t get out of the top 5, so they were pleased to land him with the 9th overall pick. He drew comparisons to Adam Wainwright and Justin Verlander on the Cape, so if he regains that form, he could shoot to the top of this list in short order.

 

70. Aaron Sanchez, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays

 

Fastball: 65/70, Curveball: 55/60, Changeup: 45/50+, Command: 45/45+, FV: 55

Scouting Report: Sanchez has a sturdy 6-foot-4/200 frame and loose arm that helped him go in the sandwich round in 2010 out of a southern California high school. He was a raw pitcher with flashes of power stuff, but Sanchez has really grown into his velocity since then, sitting 95-98 and hitting 99 mph in 33 big league relief innings at the end of 2014. As his off-speed stuff has improved to give Sanchez at least mid-rotation stuff, the question remains if he fits better there or as a closer. Toronto’s #5 starter spot is still an open competition along with at least one bullpen slot, so Sanchez has the opportunity this year to prove where he fits.

 

80. Dalton Pompey, CF, Toronto Blue Jays

 

Hit: 40/50+, Raw Power: 45/45, Game Power: 35/40, Run: 60/60, Field: 50/55, Throw: 45/45+, FV: 50

Scouting Report: Pompey was a little-known, young-for-his-class Canadian high schooler in the 2011 draft and stayed under the radar until a strong finish to his 2013 campaign in Low-A. He shot through the system in 2014, going form High-A to the big leagues after he kept impressing at each level when the Blue Jays though he may settle in. Pompey will start in Triple-A or the big leagues in 2015 and is the center fielder of the future, but the tools are more solid everyday than star material.

 

93. Max Pentecost, C, Toronto Blue Jays

 

Hit: 20/50+, Raw Power: 20/45+, Game Power: 45/50+, Run: 55/50+, Field: 45/55, Throw: 60/60, FV: 50

Scouting Report: Pentecost was the breakout prospect in last summer’s Cape Cod League as a super-athletic catcher from a small school (Kennesaw State), that was a so-so physical away from signing with Texas out of high school. I was the high guy on him much of the spring, with the industry catching up when Theo Epstein was spotted at a Pentecost game and rumors spread that he may go #4 overall. Pentecost ended up going #11 overall and has unusual tools for a catcher with a ridiculous amount of energy (watch the end of the linked video) and every tool solid average or better, though his line drive approach in games causes his raw power to play down right now.

 

119. Roberto Osuna, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays

 

Fastball: 55/60, Cutter: 55/60, Slider: 50/55, Changeup: 50/55, Command: 40/45+, FV: 50

Scouting Report: Osuna signed for $1.5 million in 2011 as a 16-year-old out of Mexico. He had a mature frame and had hit 95 mph, but sat around 90 and relied on pitchability and an above average to plus changeup. He returned from Tommy John surgery late this year and his velocity jumped a couple ticks, to the surprise and delight of Blue Jays execs. He’s now sitting 92-94 and hitting 97 mph, sitting a few ticks higher in short stints, with a slider and cutter that are both above average and the same changeup as before. The command hasn’t quite come back but that usually happens in year two or three after surgery, so Osuna could shoot up this list soon.

 

+45 FV

 

Devon Travis

Sean Reid-Foley

[G-Snarls]

Norris is ahead of Syndergaard by 2 spots

[G-Snarls]

From the LOL department:

 

134. Tyler Beede, RHP, San Francisco Giants

 

Fastball: 60/65, Curveball: 45/50+, Changeup: 50/55, Command: 40/45+, FV: 50

Scouting Report: Beede was a hyped prospect that went in the 1st round out of high school in 2011, opting not to sign with the Blue Jays before going in the first round again in 2014 out of Vanderbilt to the Giants. Beede was maddeningly inconsistent in college, only showing flashes of his immense promise at times, but his velocity spiked into the high-90′s before the draft and his changeup still flashes plus at times, so there’s #2/3 starter upside here if a pitching coach can get through to him.

[KingKat]

there’s #2/3 starter upside here if a pitching coach can get through to him.

 

And if not, there's always rap.

[G-Snarls]

Us regulars can't use mod power to cover up our tracks!

 

LOL

 

Shhhhh :-)

 

I kept thinking "where's Hoffman" as I was flipping though pages. just missed him on the first scan through. I had fixed my post before I saw your comment.

[G-Snarls]

Stroman is so much better than Beede it's awesome

[Frag]

I'm surprised how low they ranked Matt Olson.

[Angrioter]

f*** you MC Beedah

[King]

Miguel Castro is criminally underrated

[NorthOf49]

30. Austin Meadows

101. Clint Frazier

 

52. Steven Souza

133. Michael Taylor

 

Interesting stuff.

[Brownie19]

If only the Jays got Giolitto instead of DJ f'ing Davis...........(although if the got Giolitto, they may have taken Davis over Stro - which would have been counterproductive, thus exemplifying how pointless it is to play the "what if" game - my apologizes, this was a waste of time). Edited February 17, 2015 by Brownie19

[King]

If only the Jays go Giolitto instead of DJ f'ing Davis...........(although if the got Giolitto, they may have taken Davis over Stro - which would have been counterproductive, thus exemplifying how pointless it is to play the "what if" game - my apologizes, this was a waste of time).

 

Gio went ahead of Davis

[BTS]

Kiley McDaniel has made fangraphs top-tier in terms of prospect coverage. He does really great work and there's a lot of depth to it.

[Frag]

Gio went ahead of Davis

 

Surrounded by talented prospects:

 

16. Lucas Giolito (65 rating)

17. DJ Davis (yuck)

18. Corey Seager (65 rating)

19. Michael Wacha (MLB pitcher)

[King]

lol

[burlingtonbandit]

Miguel Castro is criminally underrated

 

Not if people think he's a reliever long term. With the exception of maybe Reid-Foley there isn't a Jays prospect in the top 200 I'd put behind Castro.

[flafson]

Surrounded by talented prospects:

 

16. Lucas Giolito (65 rating)

17. DJ Davis (yuck)

18. Corey Seager (65 rating)

19. Michael Wacha (MLB pitcher)

 

But none of them has the speed!

[G-Snarls]

Kiley McDaniel has made fangraphs top-tier in terms of prospect coverage. He does really great work and there's a lot of depth to it.

 

How would you rank:

 

MLB Pipeline

Baseball Prospectus

Baseball America

Keith Law

Fangraphs

 

? others

[Angrioter]

DJ Davis will be a superstar. He chose the wrong sport

[burlingtonbandit]

If Stroman was prospect eligible where do you think he is on the list? Considering Urias is 4th and the number one pitcher on the list I'd have to think Stro would be ahead of him.

[BTS]

How would you rank:

 

MLB Pipeline

Baseball Prospectus

Baseball America

Keith Law

Fangraphs

 

? others

 

They all have their strengths. BP's lists aren't as good as they once were, but their content overall is unmatched. I really like everything McDaniel does. Not all that familiar with BA outside of their lists, which are usually good. Law sucks.

[King]

Not if people think he's a reliever long term. With the exception of maybe Reid-Foley there isn't a Jays prospect in the top 200 I'd put behind Castro.

 

Severino is at 30 and consensus is that he's a reliever long term. Crick in top 150. Probably more but this is off the top of my head.

[NorthOf49]

Severino is at 30 and consensus is that he's a reliever long term. Crick in top 150. Probably more but this is off the top of my head.

Jacob Lindgren made the top 100 (at 100)!

[King]

Is McDaniel having a prospect chat today?

[burlingtonbandit]

Severino is at 30 and consensus is that he's a reliever long term. Crick in top 150. Probably more but this is off the top of my head.

 

They are also more advanced/have better stuff than Castro. Kiley answered in the chat that the reason Castro didn't make it was because of starter/reliever questions anyways.

[King]

Jacob Lindgren made the top 100 (at 100)!

 

On my phone so only had a chance to skim. Is Keury Mella on the list?

[King]

They are also more advanced/have better stuff than Castro. Kiley answered in the chat that the reason Castro didn't make it was because of starter/reliever questions anyways.

 

How can you say they have better stuff than Castro? Castro throws 96-98 MPH as a SP with a filthy slider and changeup thats a work in progress

[NorthOf49]

On my phone so only had a chance to skim. Is Keury Mella on the list?

No, none of the lesser-known Giants arms made it (Mella, Mejia, Blatch, Blackburn). Only BP seems to be in on those guys.

 

How can you say they have better stuff than Castro? Castro throws 96-98 MPH as a SP with a filthy slider and changeup thats a work in progress

A Bugs Bunny/Fernando Rodney changeup according to AA.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

But none of them has the speed!

 

Pee test first to find that out! Have you checked in thier back pocket?