G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 I was an active reader, not poster during Colby's 2013 season. I remember wanting the Jays to lock him up long term. Sure glad AA didn't. One of his biggest strengths is certainly extending current players. I trust he will do the right thing with Donaldson, whatever that might be. Same. I'll admit I was all for a Colby contract extension 3-4 years at 12-14M per at that point too.
Ehjays Verified Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Had to look it up to remind myself that Colby signed with the Astros for 8M Wow,they are paying Rasmus 8 and we have Donaldson for 4.3 Thats sweet!!
shortstop Verified Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Same. I'll admit I was all for a Colby contract extension 3-4 years at 12-14M per at that point too. Yeah I'll admit there was a time I was on the Colby wagon. "But he has all the tools"... Sometimes we don't gove AA enough credit. Kinda like Brian Burke - perhaps it all started going downhill when they MLSE's egos booted him out if town.
shortstop Verified Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Yeah I'm pretty shocked Colby even got $8M Then again, he has ties to the Astros GM
jays76 Verified Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 I'm too lazy to check the figures but this should be a bonus to an already under utilized payroll. I believe if it really is going up to 140M then the Jays should have between 10-15M left to work with.
shortstop Verified Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Jays, is that after factoring in exchange rate?
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 afaik the fluctuation in rate does not affect the Jays for several years since they have a locked in rate or w/e
jays76 Verified Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Yeah the Beezer already confirmed the current dollar would have no effect on payroll and it was definitely going up.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 I was actually surprised that $8m was all he could get. I was thinking something like $27M/3. You were the only one to guess four years (4/32) in the FAP Contest!
shortstop Verified Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Question, if true, is wtf not use the remaining payroll?
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Question, if true, is wtf not use the remaining payroll? Nothing that great on the FA market anymore anyways. Proably better to save the remaining payroll space to be able to take on a contract via trade.
jays76 Verified Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Question, if true, is wtf not use the remaining payroll? I think AA is taking a wait and see approach because there's a lot of question marks in spring training in regards to the 5th starter/pen (Delabar, Norris, Estrada, etc.) and also the bench guys (Dirks, Izturis, Travis, etc.) Maybe he'll spend a bit more after the dust settles there or wait til mid season to address a glaring weakness via a trade where he can take on salary. He should have the flexibility to do so if needed this year, especially if a lot of things break right for him in ST.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 A 28 year old above average hitting CF with okay defense *should* get a decent sized deal. In a vaccuum maybe but he's perceived as a gay with a lot of baggage. The Jays flat out benching down the stretch surely didn't improve the market on a guy with a cloudy reputation to begin with.
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 In a vaccuum maybe but he's perceived as a gay with a lot of baggage. A challenge you to find a gay without a lot of baggage.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 In a vaccuum maybe but he's perceived as a gay with a lot of baggage. I hadn't heard that rumour.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 They're really good at packing s*** if that's what you mean. I would boo that joke...but a robot telling a joke is such progression.
AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 The player with the second highest WAR in the American league last year will earn $3.4 million less than Ricky Romero.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Yes G-Snarls, that's his philosophy & pretty good one imo - Otherwise we'd be paying Colby, what, $12-$15 now? Or paying Romero whatever he's being paid...
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Holy f***, Romero walked 42 guys in 37.2 innings in AAA last year.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 Holy f***, Romero walked 42 guys in 37.2 innings in AAA last year. The guy is blind. http://gifs.houseofthebluebird.com/wp-content/uploads/HeyRickyRememberMe.gif
Key22 Verified Member Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 The guy is so frustrating. He still throws 94, still has the stuff. Convert him into a closer - tell him to aim the ball dead center and fire in as hard as he can - get him to 98mph with movement. Do SOMETHING with the guy. The guy just fell off a cliff. And Delabar - an all-star who was striking out 4 guys an inning. WTF. When he was on he was ridiculous. Batters looked like 5 year olds up there. What kind of drugs were these guys doing to now not be able to hit a barn from 10 feet.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 I was actually surprised that $8m was all he could get. I was thinking something like $27M/3. IIRC, I thought he'd get 3/30
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 Making $7.5M, doesn't get invited to Spring Training. Guy must be dreading spring. That's such a long way to fall. If I were him I'd be taking the cash and moving on to something else as soon as the contract was over.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 Guy must be dreading spring. That's such a long way to fall. If I were him I'd be taking the cash and moving on to something else as soon as the contract was over. The guys confidence is probably shattered and rightly so. What a waste.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 The player with the second highest WAR in the American league last year will earn $3.4 million less than Ricky Romero. And the highest one making $1.4M less. Making $7.5M, doesn't get invited to Spring Training. that's kind of my dream job.
Ehjays Verified Member Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 In a vaccuum maybe but he's perceived as a gay with a lot of baggage. The Jays flat out benching down the stretch surely didn't improve the market on a guy with a cloudy reputation to begin with. knowing internally they were going a different direction and benching Rasmus......why did this FO not try to get what little value he had and trade him.....even picking up his contract.....instead of paying him. benching him and getting nothing. I question that.
Maahfaace Verified Member Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 knowing internally they were going a different direction and benching Rasmus......why did this FO not try to get what little value he had and trade him.....even picking up his contract.....instead of paying him. benching him and getting nothing. I question that. You are assuming they knew which direction they were going with him before the year started, I would disagree considering he put up a 4.6WAR in 2013. You are also assuming that the Jays didnt try and shop him at the deadline for a need, which we will never know if they did or didn't. (Although I would bet AA was in talks with a few teams regarding Colby)
JaysFan4Ever Verified Member Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 I kind of had the feeling the Jays would win against him if not for any reason than he's a super 2. Not sure why I had that as a feeling. But hopefully everyone is professional about it and moves on. I see it more of a motivating factor for him to go out, have a good year, cash in in the offseason. I'd imagine if he has (or is having) another great year, especially with Bautista and Edwin hitting with him, they might try and get a multi year deal with him. See what he can do first hand, in his new home. Let him get acclimated. Let him get used to playing with his new team and see how it goes. Then if it's another great season talk buying out arbitration and/or FA years. As for Romero. I know he probably is going to come in hoping to be healthy and prove he's worth another shot in the bigs to someone. If not he'll be waiting for the season to end and hopefully wind up in another organization where he might get a shot to reach the bigs again. I know he's had a few injuries but I feel for him. he fell and fell hard. Just for his sake I hope he can wind up at least having a decent year in AAA or wind up being moved sometime during the year to get a fresh start so he can attempt to get another shot. It won't be here unless he really explodes out of ST, in Buffalo and someone goes down with an injury.
bendera3 Verified Member Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 As for Romero. I know he probably is going to come in hoping to be healthy and prove he's worth another shot in the bigs to someone. If not he'll be waiting for the season to end and hopefully wind up in another organization where he might get a shot to reach the bigs again. I know he's had a few injuries but I feel for him. he fell and fell hard. Just for his sake I hope he can wind up at least having a decent year in AAA or wind up being moved sometime during the year to get a fresh start so he can attempt to get another shot. It won't be here unless he really explodes out of ST, in Buffalo and someone goes down with an injury. I'm sure out of all the Buffalo starters he'd probably be the last one promoted. Although, if it was one of those Laffey situations though where we only needed a replacement starter for one start I could see him being called up. I can't imagine anyone would claim him after being demoted the next day.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 that's kind of my dream job. That wouldn't be mine. If I'm making $7.5M a year I damn well better be earning it. There's no price tag on my pride. Romero has to be living with a lot of shame and guilt of being a failure that's being paid to go away, and that must send him into a downward spiral that makes him even worse. The only person who is less deserving of the money he made was Bernie Madoff...seriously Romero is just one step above criminals who intentionally defraud people in terms of not earning his money. That's how far he's fallen.
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