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[HERPDERP]

Which the Yankees will do everything not to pay. We'll see what happens. Anyway, the Yanks are poised to beat the Red Sox.. up 3-2 in the 8th.

 

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New York Yankees ‏@Yankees 7m7 minutes ago

With his homer in the 8th inning, @AROD ties Willie Mays with No. 660.

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Official twitter account ain't helping Yankees cause lol

[Angrioter]

6M dollars HR by Arod

[King]

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 2m2 minutes agoEdison, NJ

a home run to break a tie in the 8th inning at fenway ... thats gotta be worth a couple mil, at least #arod

[King]

Wow!

 

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 3m3 minutes ago

Hard to believe but this was Alex Rodriguez's first career pinch-hit HR. #660

[HERPDERP]

One of the announcers just called Miller and Betances the Twin Towers.

 

That doesn't seem appropriate ;/

[Atothe]

One of the announcers just called Miller and Betances the Twin Towers.

 

That doesn't seem appropriate ;/

 

Stop being sensitive

[King]

Well, you can obviously stand by it, like someone stands by a nuclear bomb exploding because they don't believe it will hurt them, but it's completely and logically wrong. So far it's worked out, as Dickey has performed well, if not spectacularly, on a team friendly deal, while the other two have done virtually nothing. The Jays have gotten value. Will it continue to work out in their favor? TBD. Did the Jays get as much as they expected out of the deal? No. But neither have the Mets, to date.

 

Thanks Moogy.

[GD]

One of the announcers just called Miller and Betances the Twin Towers.

 

That doesn't seem appropriate ;/

 

This is a commonly used sports reference for two tall people on the same team going back to Tim Duncan and David Robinson

[BTS]

Dickey as a Blue Jay: 3.2 fWAR (making $17+ million)

Thole as a Blue Jay: -0.6 fWAR (making $2.5 million)

D'Arnaud as a Met: 1.6 fWAR (making the minimum)

 

Syndergaard would be above-replacement if the Mets would call him up and probably would have been last year.

 

There is barely a case to be made that Dickey produced more value from 2013-15 than D'Arnaud and Syndergaard are/were/would have.

 

You're arguing with Moogy. Are you sure this is a road you want to go down?

[BTS]

I love Betances

[GD]

Dickey as a Blue Jay: 3.2 fWAR (making $17+ million)

Thole as a Blue Jay: -0.6 fWAR (making $2.5 million)

D'Arnaud as a Met: 1.6 fWAR (making the minimum)

 

Syndergaard would be above-replacement if the Mets would call him up and probably would have been last year.

 

There is barely a case to be made that Dickey produced more value from 2013-15 than D'Arnaud and Syndergaard are/were/would have.

 

fWAR for Dickey is dumn though isn't it? No Dickey effect + ERA is more indicative of his skill because he relies on weak contact through the knuckler. I remember reading about that. Could be wrong. Also have no idea who's point this proves. But I think RA-9 WAR + Dickey effect would be a better method of evaluating Dickey, right?

[King]

Royals with a combined no hitter through 7 innings

[GD]

You're right.

 

Okay may he's a bit better. D'Arnaud is also better w/ framing.

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Frias on the mound!

 

True as well. Weird how fWAR feels kinda outdated sometimes.

[BTS]

True as well. Weird how fWAR feels kinda outdated sometimes.

 

fangraphs needs to replace FIP with xFIP for pitcher WAR and incorporate framing into C WAR. Two easy changes would really improve it.

[Angrioter]

Alquimedes Caminero in

[jaysfan2014]

Royals with a combined no hitter through 7 innings

 

Where's the Tigers vaunted offense? Oh, and Gose is under .300, like he should be..

[jaysfan2014]

No-no broken by Castellanos.

[GD]

fangraphs needs to replace FIP with xFIP for pitcher WAR and incorporate framing into C WAR. Two easy changes would really improve it.

 

They've stated that they don't use xFIP for WAR because it's predictive, not descriptive, which I tend to agree with. I would like to see an xFIP WAR in the Value section though, it's useful to have a figure on it rather than having to ballpark it in your head.

 

Framing would be nice if they ignored it on a team level so as to not double count in projections.

 

The problem with adding framing is that would lead to double-counting in their team projections/standings. You'd need to somehow erase the framing gains from pitcher value, which is difficult. There's probably a way to do it though.

 

Think Cyborg did that in his projections.

[jaysfan2014]

Yankees beat the Red Sox 3-2. Red Sox Nation is going to be quite sour tonight after A-Rod's 660th HR..

[BTS]

They've stated that they don't use xFIP for WAR because it's predictive, not descriptive, which I tend to agree with. I would like to see an xFIP WAR in the Value section though, it's useful to have a figure on it rather than having to ballpark it in your head.

 

Framing would be nice if they ignored it on a team level so as to not double count in projections.

 

 

 

Think Cyborg did that in his projections.

 

That seems like kind of a silly argument, but I haven't read their defense of it. Why is the homerun the threshhold at which the metric is descriptive and not predictive? Why can't groundballs be that threshhold?

[GD]

xFIP is descriptive enough though, I don't buy that. Home run rates are ridiculously uncorrelative year-to-year... it's stupid to assign home runs to pitchers in a value snapshot. Why don't you assign production to the next hitter for providing "protection" while you're at it? It'd be a similarly unwarranted attribution.

 

Taking value out of pitchers for framing can be tricky since you can argue pitchers with good framers will actively try to throw the ball off the plate since they know their catcher can frame it (e.g., Tom Glavine would throw it as far outside the zone as he could get away with). You can't just say such pitches "should have" been balls and adjust accordingly.

 

Would SIERA-WAR be better, maybe?

 

I'd love to know what JFaS did to remove framing from pitchers.

[King]

Sean McAdam ‏@Sean_McAdam 5m5 minutes ago

Industry source: Swihart will join Red Sox Sat. though Sox will continue to explore external options. Saltalamacchia not among them, however

 

Lol, Red Sox lose Vasquez, replace him with Hanigan, lose Hanigan, replace him with Swihart

 

Depth for days, unlike the fellow blue jays over here

[BTS]

Eddie Butler really sucks

[Spanky99]

And now the fight over his bonus money begins, as that was #660 for him.

 

Thanks tips!

[closetjaysfan]

First in runs scored. Last in runs allowed. At least the Jays know how to make a .500 season interesting.

[Spanky99]

Chris Yeston throwing another gem.

 

Who?

[TheHurl]

Chris Perez opts out of his deal with the Brewers...how many casuals see Clozer and two-time all-star and suggest him. Might be a good thing he was awful in Colorado Springs or AA might be leading the way.

[G-Snarls]

[Angrioter]

Tommy Milone to the Minors. Time to bring the crappy lefty to Canada. He could be our best pitcher right now.

[o2cui2i]

Two more for Nelson Cruz... wtf

 

Cruz is giving my fantasy team some long ball love.