Basebal Pprospectus: Top-101 prospects 2015

[Angrioter]

Vlad Jr. would still be a solid two years from any legitimate top 10 consideration, in all likelihood.

 

Vlad Jr.

 

October 2014 - Agreement with Jays

July 2015 - Sign with Jays

June 2016 - Professional Debut (DSL?)

 

He's a long ways away from being a long ways away

 

Adalberto Mondesi 17 years old top-50 prospect?

[King]

Adalberto Mondesi 17 years old top-50 prospect?

 

Michael De Leon 17 years old High A

[ace3113]

Predictions on who will be the best prospects after Norris/Sanchez/Pompey/Travis graduate

 

1. Hoffman

2. Castro

3. Osuna

4. Labourt

5. Pentecost

6. Urena

7. Smoral

8. Alford

9. Ried-Foley

10. Tellez

 

Just Missing: Hollon, Perdomo, Lizardo, Gudino, Thomas

[GD]

1. Hoffman

2. Castro

3. Osuna

4. Labourt

5. Pentecost

6. Urena

7. Smoral

8. Alford

9. Ried-Foley

10. Tellez

 

Just Missing: Hollon, Perdomo, Lizardo, Gudino, Thomas

 

I can't see Labourt over Pentecost. I can envision the rest easily, even if I find it unlikely Tellez will be T10.

 

Sleeper candidate: Jake Brentz!!!!!

[Angrioter]

I can't see Labourt over Pentecost. I can envision the rest easily, even if I find it unlikely Tellez will be T10.

 

Sleeper candidate: Jake Brentz!!!!!

 

 

Jake Brentz, DJ Davis, Alford, Gustavo Pierre are just good athletes, when they learn how to play baseball the things could change.

[Dr. Dinger]

1. Hoffman

2. Castro

3. Osuna

4. Labourt

5. Pentecost

6. Urena

7. Smoral

8. Alford

9. Ried-Foley

10. Tellez

 

Just Missing: Hollon, Perdomo, Lizardo, Gudino, Thomas

 

Wow, our 2015 draft must be f***ing terrible.

[P2F]

1. Hoffman

2. Castro

3. Osuna

4. Labourt

5. Pentecost

6. Urena

7. Smoral

8. Alford

9. Ried-Foley

10. Tellez

 

Just Missing: Hollon, Perdomo, Lizardo, Gudino, Thomas

 

I really, really like this list.

[StroShow]

Wow, our 2015 draft must be f***ing terrible.

 

It likely won't be an amazing pool but I'd love to see Orimoloye at our 1st selection.

[Angrioter]

It likely won't be an amazing pool but I'd love to see Orimoloye at our 1st selection.

 

DJ Davis, Jonathan Davis, Alford, Orimoloye; add Tom Brady and you'll win the super bowl.

Skills over tools, for me!!

[GD]

Jonathan Davis is a nice target

[ace3113]

Wow, our 2015 draft must be f***ing terrible.

 

It's not a very strong draft year, we don't pick until 29, and our bonus pool is in the bottom third. Even if we took one of the two guys I really want at 29 (Day and Orimoloye) I don't see very much chance of them making our top 10 outside of some unexpected promotions, catastrophic injuries, or extreme underperformances by guys who would be above them. It speaks to the depth of our system.

[ace3113]

I can't see Labourt over Pentecost. I can envision the rest easily, even if I find it unlikely Tellez will be T10.

 

Sleeper candidate: Jake Brentz!!!!!

 

I forgot Brentz and Nay in the JM list. I love Fatty Tellez.

[Angrioter]

Jonathan Davis is a nice target

 

This Jonathan Davis ---> http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa739308&position=OF

[TheHurl]

It's not a very strong draft year, we don't pick until 29, and our bonus pool is in the bottom third. Even if we took one of the two guys I really want at 29 (Day and Orimoloye) I don't see very much chance of them making our top 10 outside of some unexpected promotions, catastrophic injuries, or extreme underperformances by guys who would be above them. It speaks to the depth of our system.

 

I haven't paid attention (and let both my BA and PG subscriptions expire) but I hear it's possibly the weakest for obvious bats ever. That's why I can't believe that Naylor isn't moving way up. He's got issues (conditioning, not a contact guy) but he's got to be a 70 power. I've never heard a bat like that. Not playing much more before the draft won't help his status though.

[BTS]

Jonathan Davis is a nice target

 

[TwistedLogic]

Predicting next year's Top 15 (without accounting for draft or IFA signings). Added a totally ******** rating for each prospect in how confident I am on that guy being there, and how good I think he'll be in relation to the others on the list (I think Pentecost will have 91% of the prospect value that Hoffman has, and so on). Did this mostly just to show which guys I think will be interchangeable. Yes, the ratings are stupid, yes I'm irrationally high on Smoral and Tellez, no I don't want to debate why I'm still low on Castro, yes I know there's a less than 1% chance that this list looks anything close to the real thing when it comes around.

 

01. (100) Jeff Hoffman

02. (091) Max Pentecost

03. (086) Matt Smoral

04. (085) Roberto Osuna

05. (082) Sean Reid-Foley

06. (080) Dwight Smith

07. (071) Rowdy Tellez

08. (071) Matt Boyd

09. (065) Jairo Labourt

10. (061) Miguel Castro

11. (059) Anthony Alford

12. (047) Richard Urena

13. (017) Juan Meza

14. (008) Angel Perdomo

15. (000) Jake Brentz

[TheHurl]

 

Not even the best Jonathan Davis musician from the 90's though...

 

http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/q-tip.jpg

 

Tribe Called Quest was so underrated.

[ace3113]

I haven't paid attention (and let both my BA and PG subscriptions expire) but I hear it's possibly the weakest for obvious bats ever. That's why I can't believe that Naylor isn't moving way up. He's got issues (conditioning, not a contact guy) but he's got to be a 70 power. I've never heard a bat like that. Not playing much more before the draft won't help his status though.

 

You usually judge a hitting class by the amount and level of top college hitters there are. There is no Bryant in this class, heck there isn't even a Schwarber. The best college hitter is arguably Ian Happ, and he's more of a high average, high obp, 10-15 homerun guy than an impact middle of the order bat, and he might end up a left fielder too.

 

(Edit) Naylor also has a cannon from the outfield, unfortunately he doesn't have the range for a corner.

[ace3113]

Predicting next year's Top 15 (without accounting for draft or IFA signings). Added a totally ******** rating for each prospect in how confident I am on that guy being there, and how good I think he'll be in relation to the others on the list (I think Pentecost will have 91% of the prospect value that Hoffman has, and so on). Did this mostly just to show which guys I think will be interchangeable. Yes, the ratings are stupid, yes I'm irrationally high on Smoral and Tellez, no I don't want to debate why I'm still low on Castro, yes I know there's a less than 1% chance that this list looks anything close to the real thing when it comes around.

 

01. (100) Jeff Hoffman

02. (091) Max Pentecost

03. (086) Matt Smoral

04. (085) Roberto Osuna

05. (082) Sean Reid-Foley

06. (080) Dwight Smith

07. (071) Rowdy Tellez

08. (071) Matt Boyd

09. (065) Jairo Labourt

10. (061) Miguel Castro

11. (059) Anthony Alford

12. (047) Richard Urena

13. (017) Juan Meza

14. (008) Angel Perdomo

15. (000) Jake Brentz

 

I'm also irrationally high on Smoral and Tellez.

[TwistedLogic]

You usually judge a hitting class by the amount and level of top college hitters there are. There is no Bryant in this class, heck there isn't even a Schwarber. The best college hitter is arguably Ian Happ, and he's more of a high average, high obp, 10-15 homerun guy than an impact middle of the order bat, and he might end up a left fielder too.

 

(Edit) Naylor also has a cannon from the outfield, unfortunately he doesn't have the range for a corner.

 

Looks like the Jays picked a good year to not have any high picks.

[P2F]

Looks like the Jays picked a good year to not have any high picks.

 

I can't help but think that this was at least a small consideration when AA signed Martin.

 

I'm not saying he wouldn't have done it regardless, but I'm sure it made his decision to offer Martin the big contract that little bit easier.

[TwistedLogic]

I can't help but think that this was at least a small consideration when AA signed Martin.

 

I'm not saying he wouldn't have done it regardless, but I'm sure it made his decision to offer Martin the big contract that little bit easier.

 

I agree. Their scouts know enough of a draft class to roughly predict how strong it will be the following year. I assume that this was why it was so easy for them to let go of Bickford; all of us knew at the time that the draft the following year would be a lot stronger, and lo and behold, that's exactly how it played out. They got Foley with their third pick.

[TheHurl]

I agree. Their scouts know enough of a draft class to roughly predict how strong it will be the following year. I assume that this was why it was so easy for them to let go of Bickford; all of us knew at the time that the draft the following year would be a lot stronger, and lo and behold, that's exactly how it played out. They got Foley with their third pick.

 

Essentially it came out to Brentz, Tellez and Pentecost instead of Bickford. There are plenty of people that would take the Bickford side of that.

[TheHurl]

You usually judge a hitting class by the amount and level of top college hitters there are. There is no Bryant in this class, heck there isn't even a Schwarber. The best college hitter is arguably Ian Happ, and he's more of a high average, high obp, 10-15 homerun guy than an impact middle of the order bat, and he might end up a left fielder too.

 

(Edit) Naylor also has a cannon from the outfield, unfortunately he doesn't have the range for a corner.

 

What about Dansby Swanson? I thought he was one of the best bats I saw in college last year, and without Conde there he gets to show what he can do at SS (unless they have some Freshman SS coming in), there is no doubt he can hit, so if he can show some flashes of his 2B D at SS...he should be a top 5 pick (probably should be anyway).

[KingKat]

Essentially it came out to Brentz, Tellez and Pentecost instead of Bickford. There are plenty of people that would take the Bickford side of that.

 

Latest reports on Bickford really aren't that great. Can't keep his velocity up as a starter. Probably destined for relief.

[TwistedLogic]

Essentially it came out to Brentz, Tellez and Pentecost instead of Bickford. There are plenty of people that would take the Bickford side of that.

 

Wanna make a friendly bet then? Without hesitating for a second, I say that Pentecost has the better career between him and Bickford.

[Captain Adama]

You usually judge a hitting class by the amount and level of top college hitters there are. There is no Bryant in this class, heck there isn't even a Schwarber. The best college hitter is arguably Ian Happ, and he's more of a high average, high obp, 10-15 homerun guy than an impact middle of the order bat, and he might end up a left fielder too.

 

(Edit) Naylor also has a cannon from the outfield, unfortunately he doesn't have the range for a corner.

 

Wouldn't Rodgers be pretty up there? A shortstop who can stick and has got power is a big deal.

[Angrioter]

Latest reports on Bickford really aren't that great. Can't keep his velocity up as a starter. Probably destined for relief.

 

2014: Bickford 74 IP

(0.36 HR, 1.54 BB, 8.76 K)/9

[King]

Wouldn't Rodgers be pretty up there? A shortstop who can stick and has got power is a big deal.

 

Rodgers isn't a college hitter

[TheHurl]

Wanna make a friendly bet then? Without hesitating for a second, I say that Pentecost has the better career between him and Bickford.

 

I'm not a Bickford guy at all, I thought it was an awful pick. That's why I said "plenty" and not me. While I'm not sold on Pentecost, I like his chances of getting to the bigs. Bickford's start this weekend drew great reviews and his Cape Cod high 90's velocity in relief will probably get him into the top 10. Top 10 in this draft is likely less than number 11 last year but the difference between them is hardly set in stone. I'd guess that no one is calling either move "good" in 7 years.