(2014) Winter Meetings Discussion Thread

[Nox]

Look beyond the stats. This could be an excellent buy low for the Mariners. I'm a believer in Viciedo's potential and a change in scenery might help his terrible approach at the plate.

 

Just back from my look beyond the stats. Here's my report:

 

Found a fat, lazy no-D guy who just got shipped to the worst park possible for his skill set.

 

Doesn't look good.

 

Would not acquire.

[reedjohnsonfan]

They aren't winning anything anytime soon. And with that ballpark you can attract the guys trying to re-establish their value and get similar production for a fraction of the price without the risk of a long term deal.

 

This has been brought up 100 times. If they like him at the price, why not sign him? I don't understand the mentality of "we probably suck so let's not try to improve our team at all."

 

Guys trying to re-establish their value (Masterson) are a way bigger risk than Santana.

[King]

Hughes, Nolasco, Gibson, Milone, May, Meyer? Not a great rotation.. not a single ace in that staff.

 

Santana, Hughes, Nolasco, Gibson/May/Milone.. Meyer and Berrios could be in the rotation soon as well. Santana/Hughes/Nolasco/Meyer/Berrios could be a good rotation.

[jaysfan2014]

Santana, Hughes, Nolasco, Gibson/May/Milone.. Meyer and Berrios could be in the rotation soon as well. Santana/Hughes/Nolasco/Meyer/Berrios could be a good rotation.

 

Yes, but until Buxton and Sano reach the majors, they aren't going anywhere until 2016 at the earliest.

[Ziggyy108]

Wow. Went to a crazy f***ing concert last night, and just woke up today .....

 

There has literally been close to 20 moves since I last f***ing checked. Insane 24 hours.

 

Jays do absolutely nothing though and now a bunch of silly reports of Canadian dollar and payroll parameters in our faces again. f***ing Rogers.

[King]

Wow. Went to a crazy f***ing concert last night, and just woke up today .....

 

There has literally been close to 20 moves since I last f***ing checked. Insane 24 hours.

 

Jays do absolutely nothing though and now a bunch of silly reports of Canadian dollar and payroll parameters in our faces again. f***ing Rogers.

 

I don't understand why people are mad the Jays haven't done any transactions at the WM. This team has been completely changed already, with small acquisitions coming for the bullpen, 2B, and potentially another SP. Lots of offseason left, I'm sure AA laid out the groundwork for future signings or trades.

[Ziggyy108]

So it looks the Reds are going to go for some sort of rebuild right now .....

 

What happent to Votto? Chapman and Bruce are very likely to be dealt now. Cueto could get them a massive return as well, especially from a team like the Red Sox

[Ziggyy108]

I don't understand why people are mad the Jays haven't done any transactions at the WM. This team has been completely changed already, with small acquisitions coming for the bullpen, 2B, and potentially another SP. Lots of offseason left, I'm sure AA laid out the groundwork for future signings or trades.

 

I was just being sarcastic. It is what it is.

[Sammy225]

I don't understand why people are mad the Jays haven't done any transactions at the WM. This team has been completely changed already, with small acquisitions coming for the bullpen, 2B, and potentially another SP. Lots of offseason left, I'm sure AA laid out the groundwork for future signings or trades.

 

Lol pretty much my sentiment. People are impatient

[Boxcar]

Santana, Hughes, Nolasco, Gibson/May/Milone.. Meyer and Berrios could be in the rotation soon as well. Santana/Hughes/Nolasco/Meyer/Berrios could be a good rotation.

 

Meyer is gonna be great. He walks a lot of guys just to give the next batter a false sense of security imo. Kershaw ceiling.

[King]

I was just being sarcastic. It is what it is.

 

It wasn't more of an in general comment. Even if you were being sarcastic, there are quite a few other people who are genuinely upset the Jays didn't make a move the past few days.

[jaysfan2014]

Fangraphs was not kind to Porcello, projecting a 4.15 ERA with the Red Sox, and Masterson with a 4.11 ERA(actually, the rotation, pending the Wade Miley trade, doesn't project well.) Better hope HanRam and Sandoval hit and stay healthy, along with Pedroia and Ortiz.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=ALL&teamid=3

 

When I said they needed pitching, I was meaning like Jon Lester and Cole Hamels.. not a bunch of mid-to-back end rotation arms.

[jaysfan2014]

Jays already made their moves with Donaldson, Saunders and Martin. I imagine they're just waiting for the trade and free agent market to cool down.. many of the teams are demanding high prices for arms.

[Ziggyy108]

It wasn't more of an in general comment. Even if you were being sarcastic, there are quite a few other people who are genuinely upset the Jays didn't make a move the past few days.

 

True true. Im too focused on the Seahawks and Raptors right now to really get worked up about what the Blue Jays are or aren't doing. The Canadian dollar payroll s*** I read this morning is kinda silly though haha! Will be interesting to see how things shake out from here. A lot of interesting names now off the board.

[Ziggyy108]

Im really intrigued with the Reds though.

 

Are they going for a rebuild or were they just at max salary and had to shed some money to add some guys.

[JaysRap]

So following up on a recent tweet from Barry Davis (or Wilner...don't matter) about AA looking at possibly some relief help who are free agents end of 2015/2016 season, here's the list courtesy of MLBTR

 

Right-Handed Relievers

 

Scott Atchison (40) – $1MM club option with a $100K buyout

Grant Balfour (38)

Jonathan Broxton (32) – $9MM club option with a $1MM buyout

Santiago Casilla (35) – club/vesting option with a $1MM buyout

Tyler Clippard (31)

Neftali Feliz (28)

Jason Frasor (38) – $2MM mutual option with a $550K buyout

Juan Gutierrez (32)

David Hernandez (31)

Tommy Hunter (29)

Jim Johnson (33)

Shawn Kelley (32)

Brandon League (33) – $7.5MM vesting option

Edward Mujica (32)

Darren O’Day (33)

Joel Peralta (40) – $2.5MM club option (no buyout)

Joakim Soria (32)

Chad Qualls (37) – $3.25MM club option with a $250K buyout

Ryan Webb (30)

Brad Ziegler (36) – $5.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout

 

Left-Handed Relievers

 

Jeremy Affeldt (37)

Antonio Bastardo (30)

Jerry Blevins (32)

Randy Choate (40)

Ross Detwiler (30)

Brian Duensing (33)

J.P. Howell (33) – $6.25MM club option with a $250K buyout

Sean Marshall (33)

Eric O’Flaherty (31)

Manny Parra (33)

Oliver Perez (34)

James Russell (30)

Tony Sipp (32)

Matt Thornton (39)

Jonny Venters (31)

 

Maybe we can figure out who he could be looking at.

 

EDIT:

 

Here's the 2015/2016 Starting Pitchers available too

 

Starting Pitchers

 

Clay Buchholz (31) – $13MM club option with a $245K buyout

Mark Buehrle (37)

A.J. Burnett (39)

Trevor Cahill (28) – $13MM club option with a $300K buyout

Jhoulys Chacin (28)

Wei-Yin Chen (30)

Bartolo Colon (43)

Johnny Cueto (30)

Ross Detwiler (30)

R.A. Dickey (41) – $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout

Marco Estrada (32)

Doug Fister (32)

Yovani Gallardo (30)

Jaime Garcia (29) – $11.5MM club option with a $500K buyout

Zack Greinke (32) – can opt out of remaining three years/$71MM

Jeremy Guthrie (37) – $10MM mutual option with a $3.2MM buyout

J.A. Happ (33)

Dan Haren (35)

Tim Hudson (40)

Hisashi Iwakuma (35)

Scott Kazmir (32)

Ian Kennedy (31)

John Lackey (37)

Mat Latos (28)

Mike Leake (28)

Tim Lincecum (32)

Kyle Lohse (37)

Corey Luebke (31) – $7.5MM club option with a $1.75MM buyout

Bud Norris (31)

Mike Pelfrey (32)

Rick Porcello (27)

David Price (30)

Ricky Romero (31) – $13.1MM club option with a $600K buyout

Jeff Samardzija (31)

Alfredo Simon (35)

Jerome Williams (34)

Jordan Zimmermann (30)

[Sammy225]

I want laura frasor!!!

[LongTimeReader]

I want laura frasor!!!

 

I'd pay to watch her pitch, Jason not so much.

[Angrioter]

I want laura frasor!!!

 

Beauty and the troll

[LongTimeReader]

Beauty and the troll

 

I want Jason Frasor's life:

 

- Pitch 2-3 innings a week

 

- Retire at 38 a millionaire

 

- Bang hottest wife everyday

 

- Plenty of legroom on the airplane and low center of gravity means good balance

[eastcoastjaysfan]

 

 

- Bang hottest wife everyday

 

Have you ever dated a girl for an extended period?

[Maine Jays]

I want Jason Frasor's life:

 

- Pitch 2-3 innings a week

 

- Retire at 38 a millionaire

 

- Bang hottest wife everyday

 

- Plenty of legroom on the airplane and low center of gravity means good balance

 

You've obviously never been married if you think they're having sex every day. He's lucky if it's twice a week.

[LongTimeReader]

Have you ever dated a girl for an extended period?

 

Yeah, I'm married. And I know where you're going... sex is not automatic. I'm jj...

[eastcoastjaysfan]

You've obviously never been married if you think they're having sex every day. He's lucky if it's twice a week.

 

lol

 

Basically the point of my post above yours.

 

Fight Club is a great movie.

 

I am not watching Fight Club every single day.

[bowld]

Am I the only one that doesnt think she is all that hot? Looks kinda like Sarah Silverman to me.

 

Dont get me wrong, I'd gladly bang her but not sure she deserves this much praise

[LongTimeReader]

Am I the only one that doesnt think she is all that hot? Looks kinda like Sarah Silverman to me.

 

Dont get me wrong, I'd gladly bang her but not sure she deserves this much praise

 

Maybe it's because she doesn't dress like a ho so you can't imagine? Sarah Silverman's face is distorted and she has weird nose. Jason Frasors wife looks like a brunette angel... like a delicately aged fine wine. Also, even Sarah Silverman is not bad.

[HERPDERP]

I think she's an 8/10

[Angrioter]

I think she's an 8/10

 

7,5/10

[GreekFatAss]

Am I the only one that doesnt think she is all that hot? Looks kinda like Sarah Silverman to me.

 

Dont get me wrong, I'd gladly bang her but not sure she deserves this much praise

 

I agree. 7/10

 

I met her at one of those food drive things a while back and she still didnt look all that special, looked like a normal girl you would see at a ball park with some douche bf.

[HERPDERP]

Dam you guys are harsh! Shes perfect wifey material