(2014) Winter Meetings Discussion Thread

[Angrioter]

Jays need to go get jeong ho kang to play second....the value of have 3 players with big leg kicks can not be discounted. I can see the leg kick commercials already.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBPzg45-89g

[TwistedLogic]

I'd hope they could get a decent pre-arb reliever for Navarro. The DBacks seem dead set on moving Miguel Montero and don't have much to replace him with. After Dave Stewart gets fleeced for Montero, flip Navarro to him for someone like Evan Marshall.

 

I like this post.

[HERPDERP]

We should crowdfund an airplane ticket and a hotel room for angrioter to be our official representative

 

Who knows, maybe he can offer his services to be a dominican scout

[TwistedLogic]

Anyone remember the reports that Grilli turned down a bigger offer from the Jays to sign with the Pirates a couple years ago? Might be something to keep in the back of your mind, since in the past, AA has been known to go after players that he's long admired.

 

Jays need to go get jeong ho kang to play second....the value of have 3 players with big leg kicks can not be discounted. I can see the leg kick commercials already.

 

I'd love if they considered him. He hit something f***ed up like 39 homers last season in the KBO. Granted, the league's a hitter's paradise, but even a greatly reduced version of what he was there will profile well at 2B.

[TwistedLogic]

Thirteen hours of Winter Meetings coverage starting live on the MLB Network at 11:00 AM (right now).

 

Stream here for those that don't have Rogers/subscription.

[TwistedLogic]

News from around baseball (11:00 EST):

 

(Article) National Post: Charting the Blue Jays needs, position by position (using Wins Above Replacement)

 

(Article) Jon Heyman: Free Dan Duquette; Peter Angelos should allow GM to look at Jays opportunity

 

(Image) MLB Network: Dan Duquette looks like Dan Aykroyd

 

(Article) Baseball America: Angels Top 10 Prospects

 

(Article) Fangraphs: Debut Piece for Nathaniel Grow: Minor League Salaries Challenged in New Antitrust Lawsuit

 

Key Tweets:

 

MLBTR:

 

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[xposbrad]

We should crowdfund an airplane ticket and a hotel room for angrioter to be our official representative

 

Who knows, maybe he can offer his services to be a dominican scout

 

If everyone chipped in 5 pesos, we'd for sure find some good talent with him.

[saskjayfan]

Income tax consideration could play a roll. This just makes me laugh. It's all about ego for these guys. Seriously, 10 years from now is Lester's lifestyle going to be materially different if he gets 125 or 135 or if he pays slightly higher income tax. Why doesn't the guy sign where he's going to enjoy playing baseball the next 6 years

[Stangstag]

Income tax consideration could play a roll. This just makes me laugh. It's all about ego for these guys. Seriously, 10 years from now is Lester's lifestyle going to be materially different if he gets 125 or 135 or if he pays slightly higher income tax. Why doesn't the guy sign where he's going to enjoy playing baseball the next 6 years

 

Yeah I just don't understand some of these guys. Andrew Miller has the right idea, taking a bit of a paycut to play with the Yankees over the Astros.

[TwistedLogic]

Updates From Around the Game (11:30 EST):

 

MLBTR

 

Moss closer to being traded:

 

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Nationals continue pursuing an extension with Zimmerman:

 

http://i.gyazo.com/0eba03029c5488818625beb4e5ffcfc9.png

 

 

Padres likeliest team to acquire Kemp:

 

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Twitter

 

[TwistedLogic]

Wow, Harold Reynolds is such a f***ing moron. It's so awkward seeing the guys sitting next to him with how uncomfortable they get, having to salvage the situation every single time he opens his mouth.

 

He seriously just proposed the idea of a team trading for CJ Wilson, absorbing his 38M contract for the next two years, and turning him into a closer. Last night, he proposed the Giants make up for the loss of Panda by moving Posey to third base. Every time he says something, the guys next to him seem so embarrassed and awkward about it. Such painful TV.

 

It's hard to fathom how someone who has been around this game for so long is so excruciatingly dumb and oblivious.

[ace3113]

What other teams are in need of a starting catcher and could use Navarro? The Rangers have been mentioned. Wonder if they could be persuaded to part with Feliz. Claudio and Mendez are also interesting though unproven relievers. They also have Leonys Martin (for center?), and Luis Sardinas (more major league ready second baseman than Travis). We'd likely have to add a little, but filling a need and clearing Navarro's salary would be great.

[TwistedLogic]

Decent chance that the first trade of the meetings is Moss to the Indians

 

 

Also, FanGraphs take on defensive shifts:

 

 

And Miller and Hochevar's "sweet" stipulation (don't judge me):

 

 

Potential opportunity for anyone that might be adept at video editing:

 

[L54]

Thirteen hours of Winter Meetings coverage starting live on the MLB Network at 11:00 AM (right now).

 

Stream here for those that don't have Rogers/subscription.

 

Thanks for the stream

[TwistedLogic]

Moss to Indians is a done deal. Looks like a 1-for-1 for Joe Wendle.

 

 

In other news, Yankees chances at Headley looking slightly better:

 

[HERPDERP]

WTF is Oakland doing?

 

Only Joey Wendle?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=wendle000jos

 

Beane is either stupid or he thinks the hip surgery for Moss was unsuccessful

[TDotttt2005]

Wendle is all they got? Also Harold just said the Moss move puts the Indians right at the top of the AL Central now. lol

[TwistedLogic]

Wendle is all they got? Also Harold just said the Moss move puts the Indians right at the top of the AL Central now. lol

 

The guy's a damn stooge.

[Frag]

We've got a fire sale down in Oakland! EVERYTHING MUST GO!

[HERPDERP]

I'm pissed that we didn't get him.

 

Moss is a Outfield/1B guy, lefty smasher that fits our line-up perfectly. And all they got in return was this Brett Wallace-type scrub?

 

Makes me wonder if Beane realllly love those MLB-ready players with little upside.

[ace3113]

Holy s***, we could have had Moss for Ryan Goins? lol

[ace3113]

Kazmir for Kevin Pillar please.

[kcjaysfan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBPzg45-89g

 

Is it just me, or was every home run in that video off an 85 mph fastball down the middle?

[TwistedLogic]

I'm pissed that we didn't get him.

 

Moss is a Outfield/1B guy, lefty smasher that fits our line-up perfectly. And all they got in return was this Brett Wallace-type scrub?

 

Makes me wonder if Beane realllly love those MLB-ready players with little upside.

 

I guarantee you that AA must have explored it as much as he could have. He had nothing to lose if he included him in the trade for Donaldson, and Moss was perfect for this club. AA even has a glut of s***** middle-of-the-road journeymen middle infielders that he could have dealt (Goins, Izturis, Valencia, Tolleson, Kawasaki if he comes back). It's probably yet another case of a specific player that a GM really likes (Fister trade for what, Robbie Ray? Donaldson trade for Lawrie), where fans of every other team wonder why they weren't in on it.

 

It should also be noted (despite probably being completely irrelevant), Moss was one of the players that spoke up after the Donaldson trade. The other was Reddick.

[TDotttt2005]

Holy s***, we could have had Moss for Ryan Goins? lol

 

Is Russ Adams still in the org?? Can we get Reddick for him?

[TwistedLogic]

For those unfamiliar with this weekend, here's a glossary of Winter Meetings jargon by SB Nation:

 

[HERPDERP]

Holy s***, we could have had Moss for Ryan Goins? lol

 

The only thing that comforts me is that Brandon Moss being shopped was well known, and I bet a bunch of clubs inquired. The fact that they only the Indians paid this little probably means all teams got a good luck at his medicals and were not excited.

[TwistedLogic]

Twitter Updates (1:00 PM EST)

 

[kcjaysfan]

For those unfamiliar with this weekend, here's a glossary of Winter Meetings jargon by SB Nation:

 

 

"A source is literally any human being on the planet."

 

Just not those six motherf***ers on the ISS.

[TwistedLogic]

Potentially relevant update on Jed Lowrie:

 

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SAN DIEGO — Third baseman Jed Lowrie would have a different ring to it.

 

Former Astros shortstop and current free agent Jed Lowrie still owns a home in Houston. The Astros have a stated need to upgrade their hitting on the infield and on the left side of the infield particularly, and Lowrie would fit that bill.

 

What might make the 30-year-old Lowrie a particularly intriguing fit for the Astros is that he has been in contact with all teams that have interest in him at not only shortstop, but second base and third base as well, a baseball source told the Chronicle on Monday. The Astros check off two of those three boxes.

 

Click headline for full article.