TDotttt2005 Verified Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 A Sports Franchise President/CEO (Not President of Baseball Operations) - is ultimately in charge of the on field and off field success of the team. For the baseball side, usually the CEO/President will hire a VP of Baseball Operations, GM, and have them handle the baseball side, obviously in close communication. Beeston most likely focuses his day-to-day in the realm of finance, marketing, promotion, community outreach, etc. In this case, Beeston also acts as a liason between the Blue Jays and its corporate ownership in Rogers. Beeston was also CEO of Rogers Centre, so the management of the facility is also part of his day to day duties. In other franchises, negotiating and manageing the media deals and relationships are a huge part of the role, but with the left pocket/right pocket Rogers relationship, theres not much to do with that. To use a hockey comparison, think Richard Peddie = Beeston. Theres been some confusion with Job titles recently since there has been 'title inflation' with guys like Friedman and Epstein. In the old days, they'd be the VP of Baseball Operations, GM, and they'd have a Assistant GM. Now, those guys are "President of Baseball Operations" with final say on baseball matters, and guys like Hoyer and Zaidi have GM titles, whereas they're truly functioning in the historical Assistant GM Role. To use another hockey comparison, think Burke = Epstein and Nonis = Hoyer. The WSJ actually did a good article on this: http://www.wsj.com/articles/major-league-baseballs-new-pastime-job-title-inflation-1416247439
GD Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 To use another hockey comparison, think Burke = Epstein and Nonis = Hoyer. A little outdated lol. Shannahan = Epstein and Nonis = Hoyer, now, I suppose. Kinda.
Statman Verified Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Here is the Alex Anthopoulos story here. http://socialsciences.mcmaster.ca/documents/newsletters/social-sciences-links-fall-2014
TDotttt2005 Verified Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 A little outdated lol. Shanahan = Epstein and Nonis = Hoyer, now, I suppose. Kinda. Yes, this is true. Except for last season really, Nonis has never really been the true GM. He was assistant GM under Burke. Got the GM title when Burke was fired, then they brought in Shanahan above him as President, Hockey Operations, which essentially was a demotion, although with the "title inflation" he is still GM in name.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Buster Olney Verified account @Buster_ESPN Sources: The Blue Jays have also discussed White Sox executive vice president Ken Williams as a replacement for Paul Beeston. Oh god no.
flafson Verified Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 I'm just glad they realize that AA isn't the problem.
Caper Verified Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Replacing Beeston is honestly probably more important than getting Josh Donaldson or Russell Martin. A good front office can provide a competitive team for years. This is so exciting. No.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Yes, this is true. Except for last season really, Nonis has never really been the true GM. He was assistant GM under Burke. Got the GM title when Burke was fired, then they brought in Shanahan above him as President, Hockey Operations, which essentially was a demotion, although with the "title inflation" he is still GM in name. At least he'll be replaced by Dubas shortly, lol. No. Yes.
TDotttt2005 Verified Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Buster Olney Verified account @Buster_ESPN Sources: The Blue Jays have also discussed White Sox executive vice president Ken Williams as a replacement for Paul Beeston. This about the optics of this. At the press conference, Kenny could run onto the stage, knock Beeston over, and slide into his seat as President of the Blue Jays. Im in.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 New President will likely want to bring in his own guy. This could be the end of AA with the Jays.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 New President will likely want to bring in his own guy. This could be the end of AA with the Jays. Not after we make the playoffs.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 If this is the end of AA, he will have left the franchise in better shape than when he took it over...still no playoffs though!
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 If this is the end of AA, he will have left the franchise in better shape than when he took it over...still no playoffs though! I don't see any scenario where AA doesn't finish the year as GM at this point in the offseason regardless of what happens with the CEO spot.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 I don't see any scenario where AA doesn't finish the year as GM at this point in the offseason regardless of what happens with the CEO spot. Here's hoping he has 1 playoff appearance by the end of the 2015 season.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Lot more to running a MLB club then the team on the field. Hopefully someone that focusses on the marketing, stadium issues, PR, HR, travel arrangements, medical staff, etc. And leaves the team to the GM and Manager.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 I don't see any scenario where AA doesn't finish the year as GM at this point in the offseason regardless of what happens with the CEO spot. I wasn't suggesting right away, but within a year or two AA will likely be gone with a new President.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Apparently they are on the search for a new GM because they were displeased regarding his search for a Bud Selig replacement. If I recall Beeston was part of a small minority not to vote for a certain person. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11992598/toronto-blue-jays-seek-replace-ceo-paul-beeston IMO I think this is a good sign that the Rogers executives are actually following the baseball industry and keeping tabs. THe fact that they are concerned about reputation is good. edit: based on my short research, it appears Beeston didn't want Manfred to win (and instead Lerner) so that he could get a job @ MLB with Werner-Brosnan leading the way
glory Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 AA's off-season thus far has been good enough to where I want to give him a chance, but Duquette would be an amazing hire. He's built playoff teams everywhere he's gone, and while he wouldn't be the GM in the president role, he'd set the tone for how the organization would be run. Hope it happens.
CJ-Freeway Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 f*** this, AA deserves to keep his job
sdyment Verified Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Apparently no one at Sportsnet.ca has heard about this yet. TSN.ca is front page.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Now, with more certainty, AA is trying to save his job. Win or go home!! #Shields #Gregerson #Grilli
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Wonder what either of the candidates would like to give errr trade us now! Wink wink lol
SAAviour Verified Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Rosenthal says ken williams considering resigning as he isn't been given permission to talk to jays....that could mean the beest is gone soon!
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Ken Williams would run this team into the ground before spring training
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Good news Beeston is going to be gone as I simply can't think of anything he has done over the last 5 years that is positive for the Blue Jays. Hopefully the new guy can help bring grass to RC. I really hope Ken Williams is not his replacement though. Terrible GM and apparently he tries to mingle with their current GM's decisions. Honestly AA probably could be a decent President as he seems pretty business oriented but thats just pure speculating. Usually new Presidents will want their own guy as GM which isn't good news for AA.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Ken Williams would run this team into the ground before spring training Yeah, it would be the death of this baseball team. I would have to stop following baseball altogether.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 Kenny "f***ing" Williams damas y caballeros!! Awful news in 3....2.....1
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 7, 2014 Posted December 7, 2014 lmao @ Ken Williams Jesus Christ.
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