G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) A pretty bad year for spending big and going deep in the playoffs Dodgers opening day: $ 241,128,402 - Lost in NLDS Yankees opening day: $ 208,830,659 - Added payroll, did not make post season Phillies opening day:$ 179,521,056 - LOL Tigers opening day: $ 163,078,526 - Added payroll, lost in ALDS Red Sox opening day $ 154,380,395 - Shed payroll, did not make post season Wanted to add end of season payroll but can't seem to find easily... http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-payroll-mlb-playoff-teams-2014-10 Edited October 8, 2014 by G-Snarls
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) I give the Red Sox a pass because, well... they won the WS last year, they have a lot of good young talent that underperformed this year, and they appropriately jettisoned payroll mid season. And I trust their FO to make impact FA signings in the off season. Dodgers keep underperforming every year despite all that money. Hard to explain. Let's hear from the "team chemistry" people Phillies are a disgrace. They had no business keeping all their vets the past 2 years. They are doomed for a decade. Tigers had a good looking team mid season, with one glaring problem (bullpen) and they failed to fix it at the trade deadline. Shame on them. Yankees I cut *some* slack because they were unlucky with injuries to the SP. But they are also too old and not enough offense. The money is no longer covering up the holes well enough but "they tried", if you think that matters Edited October 8, 2014 by G-Snarls
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 Giants did pretty good. Yep. They were #7 in payroll.
Governator Community Moderator Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 "High payroll" also has no limits when the stupid MLB thinks the luxury tax line at $189MM is appropriate. It allows teams with large pockets and big revenue to be so flexible with any contract that it's borderline stupid. It doesn't mean they are trying to buy championships but more likely that they are incapable of managing such big money. With that in mind, it's hard to define success with high payrolls when only 2 teams are exceeding what MLB considers acceptable spending limits.
LongTimeReader Verified Member Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Phillies are so LOL and their GM doesn't want to let go of anybody... team is going to be a in a droubt for years
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Phillies are so LOL and their GM doesn't want to let go of anybody... team is going to be a in a droubt for years As will the Tigers soon. Once Mike Illitch dies, the payroll is going to be slashed dramatically.. and Detroit doesn't have any good prospects in their system.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 As will the Tigers soon. Once Mike Illitch dies, the payroll is going to be slashed dramatically.. and Detroit doesn't have any good prospects in their system. I did kinda want to see them win a WS for him...
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Cardinals are the best run organization in baseball. They have gone to a whopping 8 championship series in the last 15 years.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Cardinals are the best run organization in baseball. They have gone to a whopping 8 championship series in the last 15 years. One season under .500 since 2000 Now that's what I call a rebuild. Anyone who says the Jays need to "blow it up" or do a Houston Astros type of thing can f*** off. They need to be run smartly that is all. For a good team, "rebuilding" years are the 75-85 win range and the good years are 90+. Playing the Cubs and Pirates lots of times helps too.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 One season under .500 since 2000 Now that's what I call a rebuild. Anyone who says the Jays need to "blow it up" or do a Houston Astros type of thing can f*** off. They need to be run smartly that is all. For a good team, "rebuilding" years are the 75-85 win range and the good years are 90+. Playing the Cubs and Pirates lots of times helps too. And before 2013, the Astros as well. However, for the Cardinals, it is going to get more difficult in the years to come, with the coming emergence of the Cubs, and the success of the Pirates. No idea on the Brewers, though.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 I did kinda want to see them win a WS for him... I wanted them to get to the Series for me. Cheaper and makes it easier to get down to.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/542d707aeab8ea0559c5ed7b-800-600/01-577.png
Brenner Verified Member Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 I give the Red Sox a pass because, well... they won the WS last year, they have a lot of good young talent that underperformed this year, and they appropriately jettisoned payroll mid season. And I trust their FO to make impact FA signings in the off season. Dodgers keep underperforming every year despite all that money. Hard to explain. Let's hear from the "team chemistry" people Phillies are a disgrace. They had no business keeping all their vets the past 2 years. They are doomed for a decade. Tigers had a good looking team mid season, with one glaring problem (bullpen) and they failed to fix it at the trade deadline. Shame on them. Yankees I cut *some* slack because they were unlucky with injuries to the SP. But they are also too old and not enough offense. The money is no longer covering up the holes well enough but "they tried", if you think that matters Agreed on all points except the Yankees. They went into the seasons as an old team that had plenty of guys with injury history... and they not surprisingly struggled with injuries. They took on that increased risking knowingly.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Agreed on all points except the Yankees. They went into the seasons as an old team that had plenty of guys with injury history... and they not surprisingly struggled with injuries. They took on that increased risking knowingly. Hey but in 2008 it seemed like a great idea to take on all those FA contracts.
LongTimeReader Verified Member Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Other = Vernon Wells eating cheezies on his couch making $21M while his dad paints a picture of him. Hey now, those are low calorie Cheezies... Vernon is watching his figure
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Nice chart ! But how much does average age of the team or years of service factor into the cost per team?
wardhenke1 Verified Member Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 I'm actually a bit shocked that Kansas City's payroll is that high and Baltimore's is that low. It also seems to prove the adage that spending big on payroll does not guarantee the playoffs, but it certainly helps. Of course we have a decent payroll, but two years with the same core has yielded us a stellar record of 157-167.
SpinalBiffada Verified Member Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Just shows Money cannot buy success. Especially if your GM is Alex Anthopolus.
SpinalBiffada Verified Member Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Other = Vernon Wells eating cheezies on his couch making $21M while his dad paints a picture of him. I hate my life lol.
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