WAR (of players involved in recent Jays trades)

[Smokey]

The 2013 team was projected to win over 90 games and the AL East IIRC.

 

Using projections two years after the fact is a great way to give credibility to your argument. Next time an underrated team outperforms their projections and goes on to win the WS, we should all sit here and criticize their GM because he put a team together that wasn't expected to win much. Who cares about the benefit of hindsight, performance needs to be measured through PROJECTIONS!!!

 

 

The reason for not being in the postseason is sitting on your hands in the offseason and during the season, not the trades that happened in 2013.

 

And the impact of those trades obviously had no barring what-so-ever on The Fat Greek sitting on his hands. They were clearly two separate actions that are completely independent on each other and both need to be evaluated in isolation!

[Smokey]

Its funny that Lawrie is Canadian because the way he acts is very American and not Canadian at all. Huge Alpha make who doesn't give a s*** about other people and thinks its all about him. You could probably say that describes 90% of MLB players but Lawrie is to the extreme.

 

Completely agree again. Being a huge Alpha is totally un-Canadian like. Why can't he just be like the rest of us.

[RealAccountant]

"My prof was the Sport Psychologist for the University of Tennessee when both JPA and Gomes were there so he did some investigating as to whether "

 

-lol I wish JPA never had that opening game, the height of his Jays career

[GNick49]

This is a good place as any to post that JPA rumour I completely randomly heard and hinted at a few weeks ago. I'm working at the Boxing Ontario booth at the Hershey Centre when some guy starts talking to me. Through him asking what I'd like to get out of my Sports Management program we get around to talking about baseball and AA. I share my always positive opinions about AA and his Ninja skills. Anyway this guy throws out that he was friends with Yan Gomes and that Gomes was traded because him and JPA couldn't get along and JPA essentially forced the Jays hand and made them trade Gomes. My prof was the Sport Psychologist for the University of Tennessee when both JPA and Gomes were there so he did some investigating as to whether there was any truth to the rumours and he absolutely could not confirm any of it (even if Gomes left UT because of JPA there is no confirmation).

 

 

So it was a fun little rumour but considering the source (random guy who talks to strangers) I would call this one as reliable as a Kevin Gray report.

 

I doubt this is true. JPA was a fringe player, can't see him being in any position to oust another player

[RealAccountant]

because he and JPA

 

because he and JPA

 

Ugh!

 

No one likes the grammar nazis

[TheHurl]

No one likes name callers.

 

insufferable ****

[Olerud363]

Most of that is because of Gomes. Which had nothing to do with the Dickey or Miami trades

 

That's not the point of the thread. The point of the thread is to evaluate the 2012 offseason moves. I'm not evaluating small or large moves, lucky or unlucky moves etc, just the moves that were made.

 

AA - I am going to make some huge moves that will increase payroll astronomically. The moves will have limited upside. So limited that the total value could be wiped out by an unlucky mistake on another minor move.

 

Beeston - Sounds great.