Offseason roster thread 2014

[ElNik2013]

What's the dodgers' salary payroll situation?

[BTS]

What's the dodgers' salary payroll situation?

 

Not sure what your gripe is, but this thread is 62 pages of pretty good discussion. What the f*** do you contribute from up on that pedestal?

[ElNik2013]

Not sure what your gripe is, but this thread is 62 pages of pretty good discussion. What the f*** do you contribute from up on that pedestal?

 

 

All good man, disregard, just a joke. Your updates are well appreciated.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Morrow option declined. Thole picked up.

[BTS]

This thread was fun last year, so let’s do it again. I tried to keep the projected roster at guys who earned a place this year and are likely to make next year’s team. IMO the only virtual locks to not be non-tendered are Lawrie, Francisco, and Hutchison.

 

C – Navarro (5)

1B – Encarnacion (10)

2B –

3B – Lawrie (arb1)

SS – Reyes (22)

RF – Bautista (14)

CF – Gose (nm)

LF –

DH –

 

2B/3B – Maicer Izturis (3)

OF - John Mayberry Jr. (arb2)

3B - Valencia (arb1)

C - Thole (1.75)

 

SP – Dickey (12)

SP – Buehrle (19)

SP –Romero (7.5)

SP - Happ (6.7)

SP - Estrada (arb3)

SP – Hutchison (arb1)

SP – Stroman (nm)

 

RP – Brett Cecil (arb2)

RP – Aaron Loup (nm)

RP – Todd Redmond (nm)

RP - Liam Hendriks (nm)

 

Total = $97.95 million + nm(6) + arb (Lawrie, Mayberry Jr., Valencia, Hutchison, Cecil, Estrada)

= approx. $100.95 million + arb (Lawrie, Mayberry Jr., Valencia, Hutchison, Cecil, Estrada)

 

Free Agents

Melky Cabrera

Colby Rasmus

Casey Janssen

 

Other Arb-Eligible

Dan Johnson (arb3)

Munenori Kawasaki (arb1)

Juan Francisco (arb2)

Andy Dirks (arb3)

[BTS]

Bench sucks.

[Deadpool]

Bench sucks.

 

Since I don't feel like mathing at the moment, what's the 40 man looking like ATM?

[Atothe]

Since I don't feel like mathing at the moment, what's the 40 man looking like ATM?

 

Full after reinstating all the 60 day dl guys

[Deadpool]

Full after reinstating all the 60 day dl guys

 

Well, how the f*** is AA going to pick up an army of scrubs off waivers if that's the case?

[reedjohnsonfan]

Derp.

 

lol. I literally just started using twitter. Give me a break.

[BTS]

Estrada: $5 million reliever. Jesus Christ.

[reedjohnsonfan]

For what it's worth, Time Dierkes on MLBTR is predicting the Jays sign Melky, Francisco Rodgriguez and Jed Lowrie.

[Atothe]

This club is falling apart, right before my eyes...and I keep laughing. Is this bad?

 

Just hope AA is fired before he trades Pompey, Gose, Stroman, Norris, Sanchez, Hutch and Barreto for washed up veteran bullpen arms

[reedjohnsonfan]

Mike Wilner ‏@Wilnerness590 56s56 seconds ago

AA: Won't say what our top priorities are, but looking to improve 'pen, OF, make sure we're still an elite offensive team. #Bluejays #Jays

 

Mike Wilner ‏@Wilnerness590 32s32 seconds ago

AA: Scenario that Izturis competes for everyday job at 2B or that he's a utility guy. Not ready to make any commitments. #Bluejays #Jays

 

Elite offensive team? Lots of work to do for that.

[ElNik2013]

Or really fast athletes that can't play defense or hit.

 

 

Like Pompey...

[Ziggyy108]

My levels of dislike for AA are reaching beyond Clowngello levels ........

 

 

I've never disliked someone as much as f***in CLowngello either.

[Angrioter]

Mike Wilner

AA: Deal is about reconfiguring the roster. No question Lind's bat will be missed but we have other areas of need on club.

 

http://i.imgur.com/185ebTB.gif

[Deadpool]

I meant more so Bonifacio, Patterson and Reyes.

 

Reyes can definitely hit, his D is pretty brutal, but you can't say he has no hit tool.

[Deadpool]

I will say, he doesn't have a $22 million hit tool.

 

Few do, but the context was "fast guys who can't hit or field". He can assuredly hit.

[BTS]

SS - Reyes

RF - Bautista

3B - Lawrie

1B - Encarnacion

C - Navarro

DH - Smoak

CF - Gose/Pillar

LF - Dirks

2B - Izturis

 

BN - Gose/Pillar

BN - Thole

BN - Mayberry

BN - Kawasaki

 

Roster is in shambles.

[Laika]

SS - Reyes

RF - Bautista

3B - Lawrie

1B - Encarnacion

C - Navarro

DH - Smoak

CF - Gose/Pillar

LF - Dirks

2B - Izturis

 

BN - Gose/Pillar

BN - Thole

BN - Mayberry

BN - Kawasaki

 

Roster is in shambles.

 

Good thing it's only November.

 

The dick-nuggets on this message board need to calm the f*** down.

[BTS]

Good thing it's only November.

 

The dick-nuggets on this message board need to calm the f*** down.

 

Hard to have faith that this FO is capable of making the additions required to get the lineup looking like anything but a turd.

[Laika]

Hard to have faith that this FO is capable of making the additions required to get the lineup looking like anything but a turd.

 

Assuming that this Estrada deal opens up the door for a Happ sell-high, then I like everything they've done.

 

14M for Lind + Happ turned into like, ~5M for Estrada + Smoak.

 

Bench spot made more flexible because your DH is no longer a platoon player.

 

9M in funds.

 

Now if they don't spend those funds....

 

Sounds like they are letting Melky walk too.

[Angrioter]

SS - Reyes

RF - Bautista

3B - Lawrie

1B - Encarnacion

C - Navarro

DH - Smoak

CF - Gose/Pillar

LF - Dirks

2B - Izturis

 

BN - Gose/Pillar

BN - Thole

BN - Mayberry

BN - Kawasaki

 

Roster is in shambles.

 

Add Kendrick (Kendrick for Estrada++)

[BTS]

Assuming that this Estrada deal opens up the door for a Happ sell-high, then I like everything they've done.

 

14M for Lind + Happ turned into like, ~5M for Estrada + Smoak.

 

Bench spot made more flexible because your DH is no longer a platoon player.

 

9M in funds.

 

Now if they don't spend those funds....

 

Sounds like they are letting Melky walk too.

 

Probably more like $7.5 M for Estrada and Smoak. Like $6.5 M in savings, but it's also a considerable downgrade unless Smoak has just been unlucky for a long time. They have a lot of holes to fill to get the roster into something cohesive.

[ElNik2013]

Assuming that this Estrada deal opens up the door for a Happ sell-high, then I like everything they've done.

 

14M for Lind + Happ turned into like, ~5M for Estrada + Smoak.

 

Bench spot made more flexible because your DH is no longer a platoon player.

 

9M in funds.

 

Now if they don't spend those funds....

 

Sounds like they are letting Melky walk too.

 

 

 

Plus whatever they would get for Happ. Of course, we're assuming Happ will be traded, but we'll have to wait and see.

[Laika]

Plus whatever they would get for Happ. Of course, we're assuming Happ will be traded, but we'll have to wait and see.

 

Indeed.

[Laika]

... but it's also a considerable downgrade unless Smoak has just been unlucky for a long time.

 

Little birdy told me that the #fancystats think Smoak is very underrated.

[Abomination]

Assuming that this Estrada deal opens up the door for a Happ sell-high, then I like everything they've done.

 

14M for Lind + Happ turned into like, ~5M for Estrada + Smoak.

 

Bench spot made more flexible because your DH is no longer a platoon player.

 

9M in funds.

 

Now if they don't spend those funds....

 

Sounds like they are letting Melky walk too.

 

This is my feeling too. Estrada should be an upgrade over Happ at lesser cost (assuming Happ is traded, which I get a sense he will be), and I think we'll see a big improvement in Smoak getting out of Seattle (not to the level of Lind with the bat, but he also shouldn't need to be platooned either).

 

When you look at the players who are on the way out (aside from the guys they indicated they'd like to bring back in Melky or relievers), you get Lind, Rasmus, possibly Happ. All players who have had questionable clubhouse makeup. Players seem to get a kick out of Lind, but I don't get a sense that he fits in overly well. Rasmus much less so. Happ made quite a big fuss out of not starting initially, etc. I think this might be more about the clubhouse than anything else.

 

As long as they DO address some things like 2nd base, I really don't have a problem with these moves. They have to follow this up properly though.

[Abomination]

Looks like the Jays re-signed Korecky as well.