Rusney Castillo - to sign with Red Sox

[metafour]

It's not just Castillo, it's the culmination of all the IFAs that just get passed by this team. You can say Longoria signed for cheap X number of years ago. So don't compare past contracts to what's going on now. Darvish signed for cheap compared to what pitchers are getting now. That mentality will not win you championships. He's going to be a starter not a 4th OF type. And guess what, he costs no prospects or draft picks.

 

Changing front-offices isn't going to all of a sudden allow us to throw nearly $100 million dollars on a player who has never even stepped foot into an MLB stadium. If you haven't noticed by now; ownership dictates success. All these teams that are signing these Cuban transfers are owned by financiers that dont mind spending hundreds of millions of dollars to build a winner (Cubs, Dodgers, Red Sox, etc). You think AA wouldn't like to throw a pile of money at a guy? The problem is that Rogers sees this team as a money-making operation first and foremost, therefore when they choose to open the pocket books they want to do it by acquiring players that they know are at least proven on some level. Marketability also plays into effect, as its a hell of a lot easier to shoot commercials and sell merchandise of a guy like Dickey who just won a Cy Young than it is to do the same with some Cuban dude that the general general public has never even heard of.

 

The power of a "General Manager" is a lot smaller than most of you want to imagine. Look at Loria who basically runs the Marlins, or Steinbrenner with the Yankees. Those guys are/were very open so its easy to see their impact, but a company like Rogers still operates the club in their own way just like those two.

[Deadpool]

So... That seems like a massive overpay... But I guess if you get to play in the T-Ball stadium that is Fenway 81 times a year your numbers will probably look okay regardless, right?

[Olerud363]

BP pop (Raw pop) and power isn't the same thing

 

One time Cano told me "Ichiro have huge pop; he can hit 8/10 balls out of the park in BP"

 

But Ichiro (in prime) decided to hit .370 with 250 hits. He was a unique player. His numbers might of looked more like Matsui's if he wanted to hit for power in games.

[Abomination]

It's not just Castillo, it's the culmination of all the IFAs that just get passed by this team. You can say Longoria signed for cheap X number of years ago. So don't compare past contracts to what's going on now. Darvish signed for cheap compared to what pitchers are getting now. That mentality will not win you championships. He's going to be a starter not a 4th OF type. And guess what, he costs no prospects or draft picks.

 

If we're going to throw 6/72 at someone, why don't we just throw it at Melky (who would also cost us no prospects or draft picks)? There's probably a decent chance he accepts, and imo a good chance he outperforms Castillo over that same period of time even if Castillo is a legit full time starter (which is NOT a sure thing).

 

BTW, what the hell is up with fangraphs rating of Melky's defense this year? He sure hasn't FELT that bad, certainly night and day compared to last year yet the ratings are pretty close.

[Olerud363]

So... That seems like a massive overpay... But I guess if you get to play in the T-Ball stadium that is Fenway 81 times a year your numbers will probably look okay regardless, right?

 

I think a strong right handed hitter has a few fly balls become doubles... and a few homeruns become singles off the wall. I think the park factor is average.

 

What's the right handed hitters park factor for Fenway??

[havok24]

Whatever happened to our foreign friend RKF?

[Orgfiller]

Whatever happened to our foreign friend RKF?

 

Our beloved 4th OF now plays for the Cubs, so maybe he moved boards?

[havok24]

Our beloved 4th OF now plays for the Cubs, so maybe he moved boards?

 

lol. Funny how Grant and RKF basically just disappeared.

 

Grant = 4thOF?

[Orgfiller]

lol. Funny how Grant and RKF basically just disappeared.

 

Grant = 4thOF?

 

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[metafour]

Right. Which is why the Jays focused much of their discretionary budget on international signings when they were rebuilding. Because ownership dictated to the front office that they didn't want their money spent on immediate impact international signings which make headlines across ESPN, informing every casual fan that there might be something exciting going on with their organization. They instead wanted to increase their player's "marketability" by bringing in some 16-year old Dominican, who might be ready to contribute 7 years after acquisition, when no one can remember where the hell he came from or when we got him, and comes up via a mid-season call-up from AAA, which casual fans don't even notice.

 

Meanwhile, these ultra-rich financiers, who apparently got rich by throwing money away, and wiping their asses with million dollar bills, thought it was a cool blind gamble to bring in these guys no one cared about at comparatively high price tags. Certainly, these guys weren't nearly as marketable as a guy like Mark Buehrle, with no personality and an overwhelming 83 mph fastball inducing lazy grounders and wowing the crowd.

 

Did you seriously just compare a ~$1-2 million dollar investment to a $70+ million dollar investment?

 

The 16 year old kid could turn into a star. The $70 million dollar guy could also turn into a star. If the 16 year old kid flops, you're out almost nothing...thats the difference, regardless of the fact that by nature they are much less likely to actually amount to anything. You cant even use $1-2 million to buy a bench MLB player. The $70 million on the other hand can bring a proven MLB player, even if it means trading away prospects to get him. That is how an Owner who looks at the bottom line sees it.

 

Just because a person feels comfortable enough to go to a casino to spend $50 playing slot machines, doesn't mean that they feel inclined to go and drop $10,000 playing a game of poker at the same casino.

[Caper]

Once again, real teams make real moves. The jays are on the sidelines and will always be. Instead they will overpay in trades for older vets. The cycle is never ending. The jays need an entirely new front office, who can build this team and position itself to compete for many years. Something that's clearly lacking right now.

 

Sorry for the bump, but this was sooo bad.