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Is Buck Martinez right? Will Encarnacions dinger inspire at least 4-5 more this week?  

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  1. 1. Is Buck Martinez right? Will Encarnacions dinger inspire at least 4-5 more this week?

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    • No, Buck's dumn
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closetjaysfan First Round Pick

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I think the rules against grip substances is kind of silly. It evolved due to pitchers trying to blacken the ball (mudballs) so that batters couldnt see it. Someone got killed and they made a rule, no more foreign substances. Well, now pitchers get a new ball every couple of pitches, so there is no danger of them being mudballs. At the same time, I hate cheating or even bending rules, so I hope everyone currently using the stuff gets caught. still should change the rule though.
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Atothe Vancouver Canadians

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I don't blame Pineda, its only cheating if you get caught. Next time you won't be so dumb, he'll put it behind his ear
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I think the rules against grip substances is kind of silly. It evolved due to pitchers trying to blacken the ball (mudballs) so that batters couldnt see it. Someone got killed and they made a rule, no more foreign substances. Well, now pitchers get a new ball every couple of pitches, so there is no danger of them being mudballs. At the same time, I hate cheating or even bending rules, so I hope everyone currently using the stuff gets caught. still should change the rule though.

 

Uhh... isn't it more about the foreign substance affecting the spin and therefore the movement of the ball? If it was just about "blackening" the ball, nobody would even bother using it now, since that would be incredibly obvious, even to Orioles fans.

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I don't blame Pineda, its only cheating if you get caught. Next time you won't be so dumb, he'll put it behind his ear

 

they will be watching him like a hawk . he won't be able to use it now . Will that affect him , Hope so !

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Uhh... isn't it more about the foreign substance affecting the spin and therefore the movement of the ball?.

 

Yes.

o2cui2i Vancouver Canadians

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Not sure I'm going to see the end of this one. Have to catch a train in 8 hours... Not sure how much ball I'll get to see over the weekend. Have to hope atBat works.
Atothe Vancouver Canadians

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they will be watching him like a hawk . he won't be able to use it now . Will that affect him , Hope so !

 

not a problem, he can do some things in between some innings. The pitching coach and catcher should have told its way too obvious

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Uhh... isn't it more about the foreign substance affecting the spin and therefore the movement of the ball? If it was just about "blackening" the ball, nobody would even bother using it now, since that would be incredibly obvious, even to Orioles fans.

 

It helps with grip and therefore control, which is a good thing. Its my understanding that it was believed that having foreign substances on the ball would create a bit of a knuckleball effect by creating turbulence around the ball but that this was categorically disproved in a wind tunnel. The single reason that these substances are illegal are for the so called mudballs.

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He's going to be suspended.

 

Hopefully for a few starts. This isn't the first time he's done it blatantly, just the first time he's been ejected for it. All I know is that Gibbons should have the ump check him if he even has pit stains next time he pitches against the Jays.

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It helps with grip and therefore control, which is a good thing. Its my understanding that it was believed that having foreign substances on the ball would create a bit of a knuckleball effect by creating turbulence around the ball but that this was categorically disproved in a wind tunnel. The single reason that these substances are illegal are for the so called mudballs.

 

Wikipedia disagrees with you, but it's wikipedia, so take that for what it's worth... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spitball

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